Originally posted by Symmetric ChaosYou love it yet you utterly suck at it? Nice.
Oh oh, I love this style let me counter.Strawman 🙂
Originally posted by Newjak...
Aren't you the one that likes to talk about reading comprehension?
Yeah, reading comprehension includes picking up on sarcasm and socratic irony... Which you just didn't do.
Originally posted by NewjakBecause its impossible to be a pacifist and a hypocrite.
I'm willing to let myself get beat the crap out of because I'm a pacifist and don't like to hurt people unless they are trying to hurt people other than myself.I've been put in the hospital because of this yet people are wanting to try and call me a hypocrite.
Originally posted by CreshoskSo pretty much your whole counter is that you do not have the position to do so?
Sure, pull the other one. I might believe it the second time you try.Oh, I guess not, still don't believe your denials
Like not judign another person's beliefs? Oh yeah.. not.
That'd be you still.
You know what the fantastic thing about your argument is? It falls short based on assumptions.
See? Probably not. alot of people refuse to see even when the obvious is pointed out to them.
borderline equivocation based off of another assumption...
Yeah.. that's exactly my motivation shall we go back to the killing anyone who breaks the law scenerio again?
Because being in a position to do something is exactly the same as not being in a position to. What a wonderful non-equivocation you have going for you...Gee something about not being in a position to and how it relates to the times that superheros can kill their villians?
Just a thought...
Why is it the victims are allowed to die on yours?
"damn that pesky common sense and logic. So annoying I think I'll discard it."
Somehting about being in a position to do so. Dunno.. common sense should have told you that one.
Why is that because last time I checked anybody can wait outside a courtroom to shoot somebody who is a murderer.
So you always have the position and power to accomplish what you say in this thread yet you never do.
I would also like to point out that I never really tried to say your beliefs are terrible and morally disgusting look at my first post in this thread I simply said as a pacifist I could not kill the person.
From there people have been trying to tell me that such thinking is naive and that with that thinking I am in fact or would be in fact responsible for countless deaths on my conscious. Something about that I think is a little out of line.
So if you guys say that and wantt to keep saying I'm naive for believing what I believe then I say if that is truly how you believe then you guys are hypocrites who say they believe something yet even with the means you choose not to follow them.
Which is the truth of the matter. No moral high ground no calling you guys crazy just saying if you guys want to keep attacking my beliefs as naive then in fact your beliefs are hypocritical because you only preach you do not follow.
Unless of course you have killed someone who was a murderer which you haven't.
Originally posted by CreshoskNo it isn't but you guys are hypocrites who say they would make the world a better place by killing murderers yet you do not.
Because its impossible to be a pacifist and a hypocrite.
Basically what I'm getting from you guys.
Only if I had the means to get away with the murder would I do what I believe because I don't want to go to jail.
Just been reading this debate and I agree with Symmetric Chaos and Newjack on this. Newjack even had to defend himself from being accused of taking the moral high ground as though its a bad thing! Someone who thought killing a murderer was wrong was accused of taking the moral high ground? Yeah so what? Someone had to ✅
Originally posted by NewjakI'm no super hero standing over the unconcious villian I just beat.
So pretty much your whole counter is that you do not have the position to do so?
Originally posted by NewjakAnd when was the last time you checked?
Why is that because last time I checked anybody can wait outside a courtroom to shoot somebody who is a murderer.
Originally posted by NewjakI guess you REALLY have never checked and are just oging off of an unfounded assumption.
So you always have the position and power to accomplish what you say in this thread yet you never do.
Your argument is sinking and you're grasping at straws. Keep trying, you might find the one to keep it from sinking.
Originally posted by NewjakHow about I look at the one where you got upset about your beliefs being judged? While at the same time you're judging mine?
I would also like to point out that I never really tried to say your beliefs are terrible and morally disgusting look at my first post in this thread I simply said as a pacifist I could not kill the person.
Originally posted by NewjakWell you'd be wrong if you were in a position to choose what happens to the serial killer.
From there people have been trying to tell me that such thinking is naive and that with that thinking I am in fact or would be in fact responsible for countless deaths on my conscious. Something about that I think is a little out of line.
Originally posted by NewjakFinally got you to directly call us hypocrites, hypocrite.
So if you guys say that and wantt to keep saying I'm naive for believing what I believe then I say if that is truly how you believe then you guys are hypocrites
Originally posted by NewjakWe don't have the means... get processed by the system. You'll see that your scenerio is full of ignorance.
who say they believe something yet even with the means you choose not to follow them.
Originally posted by Newjak"The truth of the matter is you're hypocrites!"
Which is the truth of the matter.
Nice one Newjak.
Originally posted by NewjakBull-fucking-shit... I don't buy that for a minute.
No moral high ground
Originally posted by NewjakJust hypocrites...
no calling you guys crazy
Originally posted by NewjakSame with you. I ain't stupid Newjak. I can tell what a person is meaning even if they try to hide their words. It's why I'm so damned blunt. I don't try to insult people's intelligence with "cleverly masked insults".
just saying if you guys want to keep attacking my beliefs as naive then in fact your beliefs are hypocritical because you only preach you do not follow.
Originally posted by NewjakSo this is all your argument comes down to now? Calling people hypocrites over and over?
Unless of course you have killed someone who was a murderer which you haven't.
Originally posted by Newjak
No it isn't but you guys are hypocrites who say they would make the world a better place by killing murderers yet you do not.Basically what I'm getting from you guys.
Only if I had the means to get away with the murder would I do what I believe because I don't want to go to jail.
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Look I can argue like newjak.
Originally posted by Newjak
Actually someone talked about lobotomizing the people 😛
Originally posted by Switch 07
I am for it.It would take up space know, so death should be the answer.
If we're talking in the comic sense then hypothetically speaking we should be able to brainwash people.
A bit random but IRRC due to the lack of prison space in England the government was considering castrating paedophiles instead of locking them up. Not sure what became of that suggestion?
Originally posted by CreshoskSo let me get this straight you could not wait outside a courtroom with a concealed gun and shoot someone?
I'm no super hero standing over the unconcious villian I just beat.And when was the last time you checked?
I guess you REALLY have never checked and are just oging off of an unfounded assumption.
Your argument is sinking and you're grasping at straws. Keep trying, you might find the one to keep it from sinking.
How about I look at the one where you got upset about your beliefs being judged? While at the same time you're judging mine?
Well you'd be wrong if you were in a position to choose what happens to the serial killer.
Finally got you to directly call us hypocrites, hypocrite.
We don't have the means... get processed by the system. You'll see that your scenerio is full of ignorance.
"The truth of the matter is you're hypocrites!"
Nice one Newjak.
Bull-fu[b]
cking-shit... I don't buy that for a minute.Just hypocrites...
Same with you. I ain't stupid Newjak. I can tell what a person is meaning even if they try to hide their words. It's why I'm so damned blunt. I don't try to insult people's intelligence with "cleverly masked insults".
So this is all your argument comes down to now? Calling people hypocrites over and over? [/B]
I never judged your beliefs nor have I ever said that I'm better than you are. I would love for you to find this quote.
You maybe blunt but I'm one to not BS around with this stuff. I never once said in the beginning that I felt myself superior to anyone. I never tried to say that you guys killing someone else made me morally superior to you guys.
I said and I quote as a Pacifist I can not take lives or ask for someone else to take the lives of other people.
From that point on it has been you guys critiquing me saying things like I felt Morally Better or called you guys Hypocrites.
Truth be told I only call you hypocrites because you guys continue to try and call me naive like you guys are actually better than me.
So here is a hint unless you want me to keep calling you hypocrites because that is what you guys are if I'm naive by your own words and stated opinions.
Or you could except the fact I chose not to kill because I believe to be wrong while it is in your opinion right to kill someone if they killed other people.
There are no facts on this no moral high ground to to attain just opinions.
Originally posted by Switch 07I understand in comics but if we are supposed to look at this as if it was a real world and these were living breathing people this kind of things is going to happen.
...Anyway back on topic people please. In comics were talking about, because otherwise I see this being closed. 🙁