Superman Prime vs Superman Prime

Originally posted by Galan007
An enormous post, that didn't answer a single thing. srsly

Feat-wise,
What has Goldie done on panel that puts him above someone like Emo?

[Keep in mind, statements made regarding a character do not equate to feats -- Nor does your using of Superman 1M's feats in an ABC logic sort of manner]. ermm

You know Galan, I always thought you were logical. You say that I didn't post squat (although already others have seen what I wrote ...guess their logic is as atrophied as mine then, huh)

Anyways, a recap:

[b]
1) Superman Prime (the real one, not Emo Prime) came back to Earth after wandering for 68,000 years, during which DC EXPLICITLY states that he gathered powers far beyond those of ANY metahuman. He was already beyond power.

2) Then he made the covenant with his descendants, that for as long as they will abide he will bestow upon them far greater powers. NOW, his descendants by that time already had vast powers due to the 5th dimension imps, but Prime gave them powers FAR beyond those.
(YET YOU SAY ALL HE DID IS GIVE THEM SOME OF HIS POWERS ....that is a weak argument that i honestly did not expect from you. Others, but not you .....unless, ofcourse, you never read DC1Million).

Take Superman 1 Million for example ....when he came to our time line, away from Superman Prime's influence and power link, he INSTANTLY started to lose power. Now, he was still vastly more powerful than 'normal' Superman, but he was ebbing. He states so SEVERAL times.
To a point whereby he even doubts he can make the leap from the Earth to the Moon (and he keeps on saying how distance away from Prime is weakening him)
Finally, when he PUNCHES (since you like dimension breaking punches so much), from the 21st century to the 853rd century ....hmmm, breaking the time dimension anyone ....he becomes so drained that he ages

Again,
None of those are solid feats.

Your using statements made in a comic, as 'feats' for points #1-2 -- And using ABC logic for your last 'point'.

Neither of which stand up to solid on panel feats.

Originally posted by Galan007
An enormous post, that didn't answer a single thing. srsly

Feat-wise,
What has Goldie done on panel that puts him above someone like Emo?

[Keep in mind, statements made regarding a character do not equate to feats -- Nor does your using of Superman 1M's feats in an ABC logic sort of manner]. ermm

I'd like to see you refute what I wrote.

Actually, just TWO parts:

1) Where DC states that when Superman Prime come sback from 68,000 years of wondering he is already more powerful than any meta (and powers gleaned from the edge pof space and all that jazz)

2) How powerful a Kryptonian, who before going into the sun for 15 THOUSAND YEARS is already said to be more powerful than any meta, might just become.

For the other readers, my other post illustrates some of the aspects about the real Superman Prime

Originally posted by spetznaz
1) Where DC states that when Superman Prime come sback from 68,000 years of wondering he is already more powerful than any meta (and powers gleaned from the edge pof space and all that jazz)

Solar was referred to as THE God numerous times throughout his series -- But was he THE God? ❌

Originally posted by spetznaz
2) How powerful a Kryptonian, who before going into the sun for 15 THOUSAND YEARS is already said to be more powerful than any meta, might just become.

Originally posted by Galan007

Since Prime never did anything uber on panel, anything stated is speculatory at best, as we simply don't know. 🙂

So, a Kryptonian (say normal Superman, since you are ...per your posts ...claiming that all that stuff of Prime being beyond any meta is bull) spending 15,000 years in the heart of a sun is 'speculatory at best.' Even though we know what a couple-second dip (or for that matter, proximity) to the Sun does?

Just clarifying for all to know. Some times it is best to have some things clearly posted.

Originally posted by spetznaz
So, a Kryptonian (say normal Superman, since you are ...per your posts ...claiming that all that stuff of Prime being beyond any meta is bull) spending 15,000 years in the heart of a sun is 'speculatory at best.' Even though we know what a couple-second dip (or for that matter, proximity) to the Sun does?

Just clarifying for all to know. Some times it is best to have some things clearly posted.

Different continuities, for starters.

A few second sundip has meant a death sentence for All Star Superman.

Significantly longer sundip allowed Superman to pretty much piss in Darkseid's cereal.

Who knows what it did to Prime?

Significantly longer sundip allowed Superman to pretty much piss in Darkseid's cereal.

😆

Originally posted by spetznaz
So, a Kryptonian (say normal Superman, since you are ...per your posts ...claiming that all that stuff of Prime being beyond any meta is bull) spending 15,000 years in the heart of a sun is 'speculatory at best.' Even though we know what a couple-second dip (or for that matter, proximity) to the Sun does?

Just clarifying for all to know. Some times it is best to have some things clearly posted.

Originally posted by Soljer
Who knows what it did to Prime?

Originally posted by Soljer
Different continuities, for starters.

A few second sundip has meant a death sentence for All Star Superman.

Significantly longer sundip allowed Superman to pretty much piss in Darkseid's cereal.

Who knows what it did to Prime?

So, to you Emo Prime is more powerful than DC1M/ASS Superman Prime too?

As for the time factor ...15 Centuries at the heart of the Sun would make even SuperBoy (Conner) uber as well ...and say, didn't he play an instrumental part at stopping Superboy Prime?

Originally posted by spetznaz
So, to you Emo Prime is more powerful than DC1M/ASS Superman Prime too?

As for the time factor ...15 Centuries at the heart of the Sun would make even SuperBoy (Conner) uber as well ...and say, didn't he play an instrumental part at stopping Superboy Prime?

Superman 1M and All Star Superman have feats that put them above Superman(boy) Prime.

Superman(golden) Prime does not.

All he has is guesses and supposition. Supposition that I happen to agree with - but supposition nonetheless. I believe that is Galan's point.

(Gasp!)

Spet's super-long posts have no effect? oh

Originally posted by Soljer
All he has is guesses and supposition. Supposition that I happen to agree with - but supposition nonetheless. I believe that is Galan's point.

In my opinion Goldie should be one of the more powerful characters we've seen in DC -- On panel feats however, paint a much different picture... Rendering personal opinion(s), meaningless.

Because as most of us know,
Feats are the only full-proof way to determain a solid winner in the battles here on KMC. 🙂

Well how much time does ex-sbp get in terms of sun exposure. I mean in his most recent showing, didnt he over power Sups, supergirl, 2xww, power girl + buncha others with 1 moment of his hand exposed to the sun? And that being after being several yeaars under a red star

Originally posted by Soljer
Different continuities, for starters.

A few second sundip has meant a death sentence for All Star Superman.

Significantly longer sundip allowed Superman to pretty much piss in Darkseid's cereal.

Who knows what it did to Prime?

Superman didn't sun dip in order to beat Darkseid.

Originally posted by Hannibal-Lector
And that being after being several yeaars under a red star

So how his power declined that rapidly, is laughable.

Originally posted by Galan007
Funny thing about that is,
Prior to the last issue -- Emo had been sitting on the moon, [absorbing yellow radiation], pretty much the entire time since his release...

So how his power declined that rapidly, is laughable.

How much time is elapsed during this

Originally posted by Hannibal-Lector
How much time is elapsed during this

Days? Weeks?

It seemed like he hadnt expirenced one sun rise yet canon wise.

i dont think it was days much less weeks... maybe a few hours, he wouldnt sit on a moon waiting, it may seem drawn out in the comic but seperate events arent necessarily happening at the same time in comics

Originally posted by Hannibal-Lector
It seemed like he hadnt expirenced one sun rise yet canon wise.

Originally posted by Hannibal-Lector
i dont think it was days much less weeks... maybe a few hours, he wouldnt sit on a moon waiting, it may seem drawn out in the comic but seperate events arent necessarily happening at the same time in comics

IS THERE A SPIDERMAN PRIME, LOLZ 🙂