Thanos/Firelord vs Adam Warlock/Silver Surfer

Started by Bransolute3 pages

Originally posted by celestialdemon
So what if he appears in that universe. Do you have any proof of someone other than Thanos appearing in that realm whose power was increased after they died?
Why would I have to get proof of anyone else getting a power increase, when only THANOS has had this?

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Have you read the comic, or are you going by the scans?
Hardly relevant, since in the comic Warlock appeared in two pages. The same as the scans Guy posted. He was severely weakened, and they knew it before they brought him out.

But yes, I did read the comic. 🙂 And even if I only read the scans, the only thing I wouldn't know about him, is the conversation that happens about him being the saviour, and all that jazz.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
He was beneath Thanos but hardly nothing compared to him. And just to make it clear, I'm not arguing that Warlock could beat Thanos. Just arguing against determining his power level simply based on 3 scans.
Warlock was pretty nothing to him... at least based on feats...

That's his current version, and his current version can barely stand. Nothing more, nothing less. Until we see more of him, right now he can barely stand. He is useless in this battle if we go by current versions.

Shouldn't you be arguing against yourself, in saying he might be more powerful, instead of arguing against definitive proof?

Stop being stupid Bran. You know as well as I do that the threadmaker wasn't thinking of "Can't Stand Up" Adam Warlock.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Stop being stupid Bran. You know as well as I do that the threadmaker wasn't thinking of "Can't Stand Up" Adam Warlock.
So then he's not more powerful than he was before. 🙂

Well we have no way of knowing right now... He was kind of pulled out early.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Well we have no way of knowing right now... He was kind of pulled out early.
No we don't. But if we use current version, he can't really walk. Making him less powerful for now.

The version that can walk is the version last we seen before Annihilation. 🙂

Okay, so how would that version do? Because I can garaunty you that the threadmaker wanted that version.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Okay, so how would that version do? Because I can garaunty you that the threadmaker wanted that version.
Surfer and Warlock would probably get soloed by Thanos...

Also, I wasn't the one that brought up current Warlock.

Originally posted by Bransolute
Why would I have to get proof of anyone else getting a power increase, when only [b]THANOS has had this?[/B]

Because Thanos hasn't shown anything since he died, so you have no idea what he can do, if anything. He could have been stripped of all his power and is just there for Death to play with for all we known. But we don't know. So if you want to use "barely standing" Warlock who appeared in 2 pages and has no feats, then I can use currently dead Thanos who appeared on one panel and has no feats.

Originally posted by Bransolute
Hardly relevant, since in the comic Warlock appeared in two pages. The same as the scans Guy posted. He was severely weakened, and they knew it before they brought him out.

But yes, I did read the comic. 🙂 And even if I only read the scans, the only thing I wouldn't know about him, is the conversation that happens about him being the saviour, and all that jazz.

So all we have are the scans. Not a good measure of his power level. If he is severly weakened, then Thanos is severly dead. Weakened Warlock w/no feats > dead Thanos w/no feats.

Originally posted by Bransolute
Warlock was pretty nothing to him... at least based on feats...

Thanos does have the better feats, but Thanos is also scared of Warlock. He wouldn't be if Warlock was nothing to him.

Originally posted by Bransolute
That's his current version, and his current version can barely stand. Nothing more, nothing less. Until we see more of him, right now he can barely stand. He is useless in this battle if we go by current versions.

So is Thanos because he is dead. Don't make up some phantom power level for him when he hasn't shown anything.

Originally posted by Bransolute
Shouldn't you be arguing against yourself, in saying he might be more powerful, instead of arguing against definitive proof?

No, I'm arguing against you stupidly using the "barely standing" Warlock when you know damn well the threadmaker didn't mean that.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Because Thanos hasn't shown anything since he died, so you have no idea what he can do, if anything. He could have been stripped of all his power and is just there for Death to play with for all we known. But we don't know. So if you want to use "barely standing" Warlock who appeared in 2 pages and has no feats, then I can use currently dead Thanos who appeared on one panel and has no feats.

So all we have are the scans. Not a good measure of his power level. If he is severly weakened, then Thanos is severly dead. Weakened Warlock w/no feats > dead Thanos w/no feats.

Thanos does have the better feats, but Thanos is also scared of Warlock. He wouldn't be if Warlock was nothing to him.

So is Thanos because he is dead. Don't make up some phantom power level for him when he hasn't shown anything.

No, I'm arguing against you stupidly using the "barely standing" Warlock when you know damn well the threadmaker didn't mean that.

Terrible logic.
There is nothing anywhere, ever that has shown someone after he died, being weaker (in Marvel anyway). And it doesn't help that Thanos has gotten a powerup last time he died. In fact, the only logical speculation would be that he has gotten more powerful, but I'm not one to do that. 🙂 I'm following living Thanos's powers.
You're speculating, I'm not. 🙂

Also, even if he is dead, it hardly matters, since he's in the thread. You saying he's a ghost means nothing, or else Mar-Vell would be pointless on the board (before Cival War). Also, Thanos has killed people that reside in Death's realm, which make them tangible to the living. So, Thanos won't be a ghost either. But current Warlock is still weak. 🙂

However, I was just pointing out that Warlock can barely stand currently, and you were the one that said Warlock could be stronger (and 'assumed' that he would be used in this thread), and I pointed out the fault in that logic.

I'm only following the assumption that we are using current version (judging by previous statements). He's not more powerful, and we know this. You can't assume he's more powerful, because we know he's not. I know the threadstarter isn't using current can't stand Warlock; he's most likely using Warlock from his mini, or from Thanos's series.

You responded to a comment that was meant for another member, and that doesn't always work.
He said Warlock would be stronger, I said he's weaker.

- Bottom line, current Warlock is weaker (as of now), whether Current is in this thread or not. If we're using him, he's useless. But according to you he's not in this thread, so it's classic. And Classic still gets beaten.

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Just because you might be scared of someone, doesn't mean you can't kill them. Also, the Soul Gem might have had some work in that before. Plus, even if he was scared of him (which I don't recall), did that happen to be like... 10-20 years ago?

Warlock also hasn't been too dynamic in raw power anyway.

bump

There isn't any reason why Thanos wouldn't solo...



Team 2 wins.

Don't listen to Bran -- He's just a delusional fanboy.
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I was gonna post that...

Nothing amazing, he punches a guy, his shields survive a star, and they go at speeds greater than C.

Nothing to put him over the Surfer, which is still quite a bit inferior to Thanos.

Originally posted by Soljer
I was gonna post that...

Nothing amazing, he punches a guy, his shields survive a star, and they go at speeds greater than C.

Nothing to put him over the Surfer, which is still quite a bit inferior to Thanos.

Becuz you know, surfer just does his absolute best in the company of Thanos.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Becuz you know, surfer just does his absolute best in the company of Thanos.

He does. Thanos is just better.

Anyway, current Warlock has energy manip powers and increased strength. He doesn't have the soul Gem though. Which was the one thing that could possibly help him against Thanos.

Thanos would beat Warlock, Surfer, and Firelord at the same time. Pretty easily.

he does 😛

Adam and Thanos take ur pick

Kril and Radd take ur pick

T1 FTW

Thanos kills both of Team 2, again.

Thanos solos Team 2 and then kills firelord for trying to lift a finger