Originally posted by UniOmni
Sentry could mollywhop Surfer, Thor, BRB and Gladiator in quick succession, and he'd still be called subsuperman level.He can't win on KMC.
Totally untrue.
If he legitimately beat the Surfer or Thor, I'd be the first to sing his praises.
Beating Iron Man? Not quite as impressive.
Originally posted by Soljer
Totally untrue.If he legitimately beat the Surfer or Thor, I'd be the first to sing his praises.
Beating Iron Man? Not quite as impressive.
I'll go out on a limb and say that beating Iron Man in Iron Man's book would be more impressive than beating Thor in Sentry's own book.
This board doesn't put enough consideration into the basic nature of how comics work.
Originally posted by KK the Great
I'll go out on a limb and say that beating Iron Man in Iron Man's book would be more impressive than beating Thor in Sentry's own book.This board doesn't put enough consideration into the basic nature of how comics work.
I certainly wouldn't.
I don't care what book it's put in, Thor's in a different class than Iron Man - beating the former means a LOT more than beating the latter.
Originally posted by KK the Great
I don't expect everyone to have attained my level of nuance in comic debating. I've been at this for a long time.
I understand what you're saying; your case for it being more impressive, but I just don't see it that way. Especially right after Thor just shat all over Tony.
Originally posted by KK the Great
I'll go out on a limb and say that beating Iron Man in Iron Man's book would be more impressive than beating Thor in Sentry's own book.This board doesn't put enough consideration into the basic nature of how comics work.
Been down this road already.
You'll be called a know it all for your troubles....even if you're correct.
But if you are who i believe you to be, it'd be an accurate label.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Sentry could mollywhop Surfer, Thor, BRB and Gladiator in quick succession, and he'd still be called subsuperman level.He can't win on KMC.
The day he does that, he'll be superman level.
To date he has done nothing of the sort.
And as far as thor is concerned... when they meet
up and sentry gets raped with mjolnir... I might laugh.
Originally posted by KK the Great
Hal routinely trashed Sinestro, and Sinestro's ring is essentially a perfect manifestation of Hal's weakness.If there exists a way for Sinestro to lose, he'll find it.
I'm not saying that he is above hal, I'm saying that whenever they fight it's never a stomp on either side. They are at best equal in their ring control.
Originally posted by Sirius77
The day he does that, he'll be superman level.To date he has done nothing of the sort.
And as far as thor is concerned... when they meet
up and sentry gets raped with mjolnir... I might laugh.
Ah....the moving goal post tactic.
If it ever gets to close to becoming reality, we'll just move the goal post down a bit, and it's back to square one!
Holding the power of a cosmic cube.
Beating a guy capable of breaking every bone in Hulks body, and taking down most of Marvels heroes.
Treating a midlevel herald like a chump.
Fighting against Ultron, who despite the way people are downgrading him/her now, is never a low tier feat.
Fighting against Photon and lasting as long as he did, when Photon was being portrayed as above the top tier.
Fighting against a being with the powers of most of the mutant population of the entire planet, and doing well.
Overloading the Absorbing Man.
You name me some feats of Superman that flatout trump the feats on this list and i'll admit Superman is above Sentry.
And for those who're inevitably gonna bring up the Ironman fight, i'll see you that and raise you.........
Superman being one punch koed by a child in JLA: War of the Gods.
Best thing about your requirements Sirius?
Superman himself has never done anything nearly on that level, without a power up present.
Originally posted by UniOmniWait. War of the Gods? When did a kid KO superman? I must have missed that.
Ah....the moving goal post tactic.If it ever gets to close to becoming reality, we'll just move the goal post down a bit, and it's back to square one!
Holding the power of a cosmic cube.
Beating a guy capable of breaking every bone in Hulks body, and taking down most of Marvels heroes.
Treating a midlevel herald like a chump.
Fighting against Ultron, who despite the way people are downgrading him/her now, is never a low tier feat.
Fighting against Photon and lasting as long as he did, when Photon was being portrayed as above the top tier.
Fighting against a being with the powers of most of the mutant population of the entire planet, and doing well.
Overloading the Absorbing Man.
You name me some feats of Superman that flatout trump the feats on this list and i'll admit Superman is above Sentry.
And for those who're inevitably gonna bring up the Ironman fight, i'll see you that and raise you.........
Superman being one punch koed by a child in JLA: War of the Gods.
Best thing about your requirements Sirius?
Superman himself has never done anything nearly on that level, without a power up present.
Originally posted by Soljer
Totally untrue.If he legitimately beat the Surfer or Thor, I'd be the first to sing his praises.
Beating Iron Man? Not quite as impressive.
I'm with you.
To make a statement about Sentry defeating Surfer and Thor is ridiculous. It is going to take a lot more than his present showings on panel.
Thor and Surfer have proven themselves against bricks and cosmics alike.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Wait. War of the Gods? When did a kid KO superman? I must have missed that.
I might be mistaken.
Either War of the Gods, or Pain of the Gods.
When the JLA finds a superpowered family, where a Superstrong man saves some people from a collapsing roof iirc, only to have it kill him when he gives out after Superman gets the people out.
Superman thought since he was superstrong, he'd be invulnerable, but he was mistaken.
Wife becomes a superspeedster with eyebeams, and angry kid one punches Superman to a ko.
Originally posted by Horrificus
I'm with you.
To make a statement about Sentry defeating Surfer and Thor is ridiculous. It is going to take a lot more than his present showings on panel.Thor and Surfer have proven themselves against bricks and cosmics alike.
So what is it called when Sentry beats a low end cosmic(Terrax)
A guy capable of beating a planets heroes (Void)
And stalemates a guy with the powers of the mutant population of Earth
and a guy who destroyed the universe...Genis?
IF Superman had done the same thing in DC, it'd all be on the first page of his respect thread, and we all know it.
People just don't want Sentry up there.
I'd just wish they'd admit it, rather than give out bs about Superman level shenanigans.
Originally posted by Soljer
Irrelevant.
Because, see, I'm pretty sure I was commenting on the unspoken reality concerning a hero in his own solo titles as compared to playing guest-star in another hero's book, and you shot back with, unsurprisingly, an example of one hero trashing another in his own book--a perfect example of what I was talking about.
Granted, Iron Man and Thor may be too inherently far apart on the power scale to have been a good example. They were just two characters who came readily to mind. But I would certainly be far more impressed if Sentry were to beat Thor in Thor's book than if he beat, say, Silver Surfer in a Sentry book.