Originally posted by UniOmni
So what is it called when Sentry beats a low end cosmic(Terrax)
A guy capable of beating a planets heroes (Void)
And stalemates a guy with the powers of the mutant population of Earth
and a guy who destroyed the universe...Genis?IF Superman had done the same thing in DC, it'd all be on the first page of his respect thread, and we all know it.
People just don't want Sentry up there.
I'd just wish they'd admit it, rather than give out bs about Superman level shenanigans.
DC earth heroes are far more powerful than thier marvel counter parts. The void would get it's ass kicked ****ing with DC earth heroes. So I'm not too impressed. The guy with the mutant powers means the big donut. Most mutants evolve and learn how to use thier powers over time. And genis wasn't at his universal destroying powers. Anyway, Dominus>>>>Genis.
Originally posted by UniOmni
I might be mistaken.Either War of the Gods, or Pain of the Gods.
When the JLA finds a superpowered family, where a Superstrong man saves some people from a collapsing roof iirc, only to have it kill him when he gives out after Superman gets the people out.
Superman thought since he was superstrong, he'd be invulnerable, but he was mistaken.
Wife becomes a superspeedster with eyebeams, and angry kid one punches Superman to a ko.
OK. I dont' have that story. But we dont 'even know how powerful the kid is. So just saying a kid ko's him is kind of meh.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
DC earth heroes are far more powerful than thier marvel counter parts. The void would get it's ass kicked ****ing with DC earth heroes. So I'm not too impressed. The guy with the mutant powers means the big donut. Most mutants evolve and learn how to use thier powers over time. And genis wasn't at his universal destroying powers. Anyway, Dominus>>>>Genis.
So basically, i don't wanna hear it?
And Tony was in his Extremis at the time, iirc.
We don't know how powerful this upgrade is gonna make him either.
Originally posted by UniOmni
So basically, i don't wanna hear it?And Tony was in his Extremis at the time, iirc.
We don't know how powerful this upgrade is gonna make him either.
Not i dont' wanna hear it. I heard it and answered. The void would get it's ass kicked on DC earth. So I don't see sentry stalemating or beating it as impressive. Hell i can see magneto on his own giving sentry a hard time.
Originally posted by KK the GreatGranted, Iron Man and Thor may be too inherently far apart on the power scale to have been a good example. They were just two characters who came readily to mind. But I would certainly be far more impressed if Sentry were to beat Thor in Thor's book than if he beat, say, Silver Surfer in a Sentry book.
As would I - but then the two characters are on a comparative power level.
When the gap's as large as Iron Man and Thor? Doesn't matter.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Ah....the moving goal post tactic.If it ever gets to close to becoming reality, we'll just move the goal post down a bit, and it's back to square one!
Holding the power of a cosmic cube.
Cosmic cubes are dangerous only when used in that manner. Give me a scan that explicitly proves that just being in contact with a cosmic cube can do more damage than a black hole. Then it will mean something. Until then...
Originally posted by UniOmni
Beating a guy capable of breaking every bone in Hulks body, and taking down most of Marvels heroes.
It was a psychological battle. Void is him, and he is void. He is just unable to access the powers of void.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Treating a midlevel herald like a chump.
Terrax? Come on. Thing one shotted him, superman would pwn him exactly like that too. Any class 100 would. Terrax is only class 80 or lower iirc.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Fighting against Ultron, who despite the way people are downgrading him/her now, is never a low tier feat.
She pwned him... why did you even list this?
Originally posted by UniOmni
Fighting against Photon and lasting as long as he did, when Photon was being portrayed as above the top tier.
Photon was toying with him. He smacked him aside like a child and then bfred him like a he would anyone else.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Fighting against a being with the powers of most of the mutant population of the entire planet, and doing well.
That wasn't a fight... The collective looked at him and pimp smacked him back to earth and flew away.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Overloading the Absorbing Man.
Big deal. Like superman hasn't overloaded about 20 absorbers...
Still a cool feat though, I liked the art.
Originally posted by UniOmni
You name me some feats of Superman that flatout trump the feats on this list and i'll admit Superman is above Sentry.
Survived a 50 supernova explosion two times.
Held a black hole with the help of a gl.
Punched his way out of his own death.
Defeated ds more than two times (if you would like me to name a jobbing top-tier like you did with the collective and photon)
Threw a moon sized ship out of the solar system... which is certainly a lot heavier than a helicarrier...
Split on e of Mars moons in half.
Flew through a red sun.
Flew from earth to the andromeda galaxy in a few moments.
etc...
Originally posted by UniOmni
And for those who're inevitably gonna bring up the Ironman fight, i'll see you that and raise you.........
Is that supposed to scare people...?
Anyway, sentry got his nose busted by ironman. Sorry I ruined the suspense for everyone.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Superman being one punch koed by a child in JLA: War of the Gods
Are you talking about year one superman? The one from like ten years ago?
Hate to break it to you, but superman gets stronger as time goes by. And needless to say.... he's stronger. Alot stronger.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Best thing about your requirements Sirius?Superman himself has never done anything nearly on that level, without a power up present.
All of the feats except for the black hole feat, he has done on his own.
... sorry. 🙁
Originally posted by Sirius77
Cosmic cubes are dangerous only when used in that manner. Give me a scan that explicitly proves that just being in contact with a cosmic cube can do more damage than a black hole. Then it will mean something. Until then...Semantics. He held the power of a cosmic cube, and he stated iirc, that his arms were going numb from holding it back. That's a hella nice feat, no matter how you try to spin it.
It was a psychological battle. Void is him, and he is void. He is just unable to access the powers of void.
Terrax? Come on. Thing one shotted him, superman would pwn him exactly like that too. Any class 100 would. Terrax is only class 80 or lower iirc.
Terrax recently cratered a planet after cutting off the energy of his cosmic axe. He's not class 80.
She pwned him... why did you even list this?
She did beat him. After a decent scrap.
Photon was toying with him. He smacked him aside like a child and then bfred him like a he would anyone else.
And yet they both put out enough energy to destroy several planets.(Superman still hasn't matched that)
That wasn't a fight... The collective looked at him and pimp smacked him back to earth and flew away.
Fair enough.
Big deal. Like superman hasn't overloaded about 20 absorbers...
Still a cool feat though, I liked the art.
But was it a name ala the absorbing man?
Survived a 50 supernova explosion two times. - When was the other time i'm forgetting?
Held a black hole with the help of a gl. - With help.
Punched his way out of his own death. - Silly Punchy McPuncherson.
Defeated ds more than two times (if you would like me to name a jobbing top-tier like you did with the collective and photon) - Defeated Darkseid once on his own, the other time he got backhanded like a child, only to have WW save his ass and turn Darkseid's own attack against him, and even still the fight wasn't decided until he took him to his place of power, the sun. He did not defeat Darkseid on his own.
Threw a moon sized ship out of the solar system... which is certainly a lot heavier than a helicarrier...
- Good stuff.
Split on e of Mars moons in half. - Nice speed and durability feat, but Grey Hulk has it beat.
Flew through a red sun.
Flew from earth to the andromeda galaxy in a few moments.
etc...
Is that supposed to scare people...?
Anyway, sentry got his nose busted by ironman. Sorry I ruined the suspense for everyone.
Are you talking about year one superman? The one from like ten years ago?
Hate to break it to you, but superman gets stronger as time goes by. And needless to say.... he's stronger. Alot stronger.
When was it alluded to that it was YR1 Superman?
All of the feats except for the black hole feat, he has done on his own.
... sorry. 🙁
And i was referring to the fact that you actually agreed that it'd take Sentry beating up Surfer, Thor and BRB in quick succession for you to see him as Superman level, when Superman himself has NEVER pulled off something like that.
IF Sentry were to do something like that, most logical people would say he's top tier+.
Originally posted by UniOmni
And i was referring to the fact that you actually agreed that it'd take Sentry beating up Surfer, Thor and BRB in quick succession for you to see him as Superman level, when Superman himself has NEVER pulled off something like that.IF Sentry were to do something like that, most logical people would say he's top tier+.
wait. hasn't superman beaten some top tiers a few times?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
wait. hasn't superman beaten some top tiers a few times?
Yep.
But so have other top tiers.
It doesn't become a special occasion when Superman does it.
And the fact remains, Superman hasn't beaten elite top tiers like the ones named, in rapid succession himself, which makes Sirius saying it'd take something like that to change his mind laughable.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Yep.But so have other top tiers.
It doesn't become a special occasion when Superman does it.
And the fact remains, Superman hasn't beaten elite top tiers like the ones named, in rapid succession himself, which makes Sirius saying it'd take something like that to change his mind laughable.
Um, What makes BRB an elite Top tier? The JLA as far as im concerned if FULL of elite top tiers.
Originally posted by UniOmni
He's got a great record of battle?He's saved the universe?
He's more of a sure bet in battle than paper tigers like J'onn and Captain Atom?
Captain atom i haven't seen do that much stuff, so i won't comment on him.
BRB is no more of an elite top tier than Wonder Woman or captain marvel.
Originally posted by UniOmni
And i was referring to the fact that you actually agreed that it'd take Sentry beating up Surfer, Thor and BRB in quick succession for you to see him as Superman level, when Superman himself has NEVER pulled off something like that.IF Sentry were to do something like that, most logical people would say he's top tier+.
So fighting Captain adam, Hank Henshaw, Orion, Zoom (one shotted), Eradicator, Zod, and Dominus (who was able to trap kismet, the dc version of eternity) don't count for anything?
So since sentry has never actually BEATEN anyone on the level of most of these people, sentry still is not superman level.
Oh, and by the way, the helicarrier feat isn't a low feat. It's a high feat. It's the heaviest thing that hes lifted iirc.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
paper tiger? Martian manhunter stood up to and burned the shit out of the far beyond top tier of black adam. He also lasted a great long time against Asmodel.Captain atom i haven't seen do that much stuff, so i won't comment on him.
BRB is no more of an elite top tier than Wonder Woman or captain marvel.
BRB has the winning record against someone more powerful than both Cap and WW, Thor.
And WW isn't elite top tier.
She's top tier, but not at the pinnacle.
Cap can be, and imo is, but he's portrayed as> WW for the most part, so it's cool.
MM is a favorite of mine as many know, but i can admit that he's underutilized for the most part.
He gets occasional moments of glory, but he's too often the fall guy.
Originally posted by UniOmni
BRB has the winning record against someone more powerful than both Cap and WW, Thor.And WW isn't elite top tier.
She's top tier, but not at the pinnacle.
Cap can be, and imo is, but he's portrayed as> WW for the most part, so it's cool.
MM is a favorite of mine as many know, but i can admit that he's underutilized for the most part.
He gets occasional moments of glory, but he's too often the fall guy.
Actually, by DC standards she is. Rather this board admits it or not. Superman himself says SHE is the next line of defense. Not anyone else. And BRB isn't an elite anything. He brawls. To be elite, one needs to actually think for once.
