Dante vs Master Chief

Originally posted by Sappho
Pandora has many forms, few of which require him to sit down. He can turn it into a giant blade which can be launched like a bommerang, it can shoot lasers, bullets, and missles all not while seated. Him being seated just gives him a boost in firepower, letting him shoot many missiles at once.

Dante would not sit like an idiot and let chief shoot him, he would probably pull that out when chief has to go to sleep..

"[b]Dante would end up having to do some incredible movements to survive."

This would be simple for him. mc may be a good shot, but dante is far superior in speed and reflexes. He has cut bullets in half, caught a bullet with his teeth, moved so fast so that he couldnt be seen, he has many speed feats that show how fast he really is.

dante is not getting hit, and last time i checked i dont remember him being like a normal human, there are many scenes where he gets impaled in the chest, no phase, many scenes where he is struggling to do something, but he never has to catch his breath or anything. He's part demon for a reason.

this, and iirc didnt chiefs suit lock up when he fell from the sky?

The shot is instantaneous, it doesnt make the person with the gun have perfect aim. mc, despite being fast, is not fast enough to hit dante, especially if you know dante's feats. Mc would be aiming in one spot and shoot, while not realizing dante has already left that spot...

And gumachi, C'MON. noob, really? [/B]

I dont know about that, the only missles I remember was the large one from Pandoras box, although I may be thinking of DMC 3 when I say theres only one missle weapon....

"shrug", I would wager he would have hit dante by then cosndiering the light of this instant rifle, Dante does have about a second or so of down time while the box activates and he retrieves the weapon, and its hardly likely Dante can carry on forever himself.

Dante does a lot of acrobatics but to escape machine gun rounds constantly, hes never done that. Hes escaped a few light weapons but chief can carry AOE and high cal futuristic rifles, I think he can even duel wield assault rifles....considering Chief by far outclasses most if not all adversaries Dante has faced with a gun in the areas of accuracy, tactics, concenstration etc especially with Cortanas help.

Yes well, getting impaled and having your head disintegrated are very diffrent and on several occasions impalement has left him impaired or weakened for a while, all these bullets at once would slow him down and probably floor him with their force, especially the explosives.

It did lock up, but the armour was not damaged, fact is Chiefs suit will not be damaged by Dante and he cannot exert that much force, not anywhere near cloes to 2km free fall.

no MC does not have perfect aim but his computer cortana can prob line up a shot even if his own expert training does not and Dante cannot dodge or percieve the speed of this laser.

1. Dante has perfect aim as well.

2. Dante has already dodge lasers.

Dante can pull out attacks as fast as lighting and dodged lasers. He runs faster than bullets and bullets break the sound barrier when shot. And Dante is fast enough to actually not be visually seen, so i'm thinking that MC probably won't see shit.

His cellular versatility and regeneration keep him alive.

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Plasma gun can't do shit. Dante has gotten cut by a sword that can cut thru ANYTHING...sooooo....yeahhhhh...plasma gun?

You just stated that Dante was cut by a sword that can cut anything...lol, and thats your argument against the plasma gun? "sigh"

Dante has not dodged this laser, and his aim is worthless if his opponent is immune to most of his weapons. His best bet to do any damage at all to chief is a laser or huge missle machine...

Plasma gun is like as hot or more-so than the surface of the sun.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Master Chief was almost killed by one of those Flood pods in one of those Halo novels (which are canon to the game's storyline). He's really not as durable as he's claimed to be.

Dante takes him out.

he was literally going up against hundreds of thousands of those at the same time including combat forms, and those things are insta kill anyway and pretty powerful.

Originally posted by Gumachi
And the plasma gun is featless. Dante shoots him in the face, he dies, end of story. And their not featless, noob.

Doesn't matter. And neither does the plasma gun.

He leaves him completly invincible. No such thing like that can have "feats". And MC can't do shit to him.

plasma gun is featless 😐 is ****ing plasma I think that says enough about it facepalm

Just for the record, plasma's an overhyped concept, and can even be cool. In a weapon it'd obviously be hot, but hotter than the surface of the sun? Unless I see a statement, I refuse to believe that. 😐

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Just for the record, plasma's an overhyped concept, and can even be cool. In a weapon it'd obviously be hot, but hotter than the surface of the sun? Unless I see a statement, I refuse to believe that. 😐

I think it's hotter or as hot as the surface of the Sun for only an extremely short period of time.

its obviously not that hot when it strikes or at least, does not affect the body like the surface of the sun would.

Fact is, its more powerful than Dante has surived, its a burning disintegration sort of weapon, Dante cannot survive his body being disolved.

Dante survived higher temperatures when he absorbed Ifrit... Hellfire burns hotter than any flames in reality...

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Dante survived higher temperatures when he absorbed Ifrit... Hellfire burns hotter than any flames in reality...

In any religious standing you can place Hell in, it is stated so.

Besides, it is stated by the game to burn at hotter than deep magma, it needs to in order to fight the ice creatures, which can still thrive in volcanic temperatures as stated in their profiles.

Dante has taken extreme heat before, and worse... BT says Dante cant breach MCs armour due to the re-entry feat without devil arms... MCs suit has been breached by rocket fire before...

Hotter than deep hotter is not as hot as the surface of the sun to my knowledge.

Dependant...

What makes the sun "Hotter" is the radiation, not the actual heat.... if your looking for true star heat, it's in the core... where your pushing 100,000 degrees of heat... but the surface, like deep core magmais only a couple of thousand to just over 10,000. Modern arc welders reach those temperatures

From memory.

The core of the sun is about 15,000,000 degrees Celcius, and the surface I think was like 5,000, but I may be wrong about the second.

hard to say... But in either case, it does prove my point... Dante has taken far worse than covy plasma weapons without injury, and another thing I'll mention.

Ebony & Ivory are variable weapons, they are made using Hell tech. The fact that they didn't break mid air cueballs isn't an indicator of overall power like BT suggests, considering they have done better, on more occasions.

The AT rifle Dante uses would have no trouble plastering MC either...

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
BT says Dante cant breach MCs armour due to the re-entry feat without devil arms... MCs suit has been breached by rocket fire before...

Rocket fire from our modern world or dantes, or rocket fire from the far future of MC's world? and is this canon? because his falling so far is and his suit was undamaged. Either way, rocket fire>>>Dantes pistols.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero

Ebony & Ivory are variable weapons, they are made using Hell tech. The fact that they didn't break mid air cueballs isn't an indicator of overall power like BT suggests, considering they have done better, on more occasions.

The AT rifle Dante uses would have no trouble plastering MC either...

The only variety they have shown is when Dante charges them for a second or so to do higher damage. regardless of what you claim, he did in canon not damage cueballs, and name these "better things" they have done.

Sure if it can create the same forces as re-entry...oh sorry, far beyond the forces of re-entry...and I assume this rifle is featless? and what one btw, is it in DMC2 or are you talking about spiral?

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
BT says Dante cant breach MCs armour due to the re-entry feat without devil arms... MCs suit has been breached by rocket fire before...

Rocket fire from our modern world or dantes, or rocket fire from the far future of MC's world? and is this canon? because his falling so far is and his suit was undamaged. Either way, rocket fire>>>Dantes pistols.

Firstly, The cueball thing was out in mid air... is VERY smooth, and is round... Do you know the physics it would take to crack a cueball under those circumstances? Because even 45. AP rounds wouldn't do that to one in mid-air. They destroyed a motorcycle, and damaged demons impervious to ordinary weaponry.

The rifle I reffer to fires 12.75 mm APFSDS rounds which shit on ANY andheld earth made weapon MC has ever handled in terms of penetration and overall damage. Damn dude, his suit can be plugged by 5.57mm and 7.5mm NATO rounds by flood controlled human weaponry, never mind 50.cal burst fire from Warthogs... A Sabot round would liquefy him, considering its designed to plug MBT armour.

Heat resistance and blunt impact from the fall do NOT automatically render MC immune from pinpoint shooting, nor from other kinetic impact like explosions.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Firstly, The cueball thing was out in mid air... is VERY smooth, and is round... Do you know the physics it would take to crack a cueball under those circumstances? Because even 45. AP rounds wouldn't do that to one in mid-air. They destroyed a motorcycle, and damaged demons impervious to ordinary weaponry.

The rifle I reffer to fires 12.75 mm APFSDS rounds which shit on ANY andheld earth made weapon MC has ever handled in terms of penetration and overall damage. Damn dude, his suit can be plugged by 5.57mm and 7.5mm NATO rounds by flood controlled human weaponry, never mind 50.cal burst fire from Warthogs... A Sabot round would liquefy him, considering its designed to plug MBT armour.

Heat resistance and blunt impact from the fall do NOT automatically render MC immune from pinpoint shooting, nor from other kinetic impact like explosions.

Are you so sure that those rounds could not? regardless if they cant break the snookerball, they cant damage MC suit.

lol a motorcycle? please....is that feat? what demons?

Show me the rifle, I dont remember Dante ever acquiring such a weapon and furthermore the specifics you menstioned, I dont remember Dante being so specific about the rounds he is fireing unless theres an offical source somewhere that states it. And when has MC been canonically pierced by such weapons? his suit is not even damaged after falling 2km, how is a round supposed to damage it? nigh impossible...

No it makes him immune to weapons that cannot create that much force.

You are ignoring physics.... again.

The snooker ball was in mid air when hit. There is nothing stopping it from moving the way the bullet hit it for starters. Second, the bullet was controlled to do what it does, it wasn't intended to shatter it.

The rifle is an M82A2 Anti Material Rifle, or a larger variant.

Because friction burn & landing impact are entirely different from high calibre weapon fire impact... Your claim is akin to "A large tree survives vehicle crash impacts, therefor a chainsaw, bullets & grenades won't do squat!" Which is factually false.

Overall force PSI actually is higher in bullets than a 7 foot guy surviving his own sub-orbital drop.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
You are ignoring physics.... again.

The snooker ball was in mid air when hit. There is nothing stopping it from moving the way the bullet hit it for starters. Second, the bullet was controlled to do what it does, it wasn't intended to shatter it.

The rifle is an M82A2 Anti Material Rifle, or a larger variant.

Because friction burn & landing impact are entirely different from high calibre weapon fire impact... Your claim is akin to "A large tree survives vehicle crash impacts, therefor a chainsaw, bullets & grenades won't do squat!" Which is factually false.

Overall force PSI actually is higher in bullets than a 7 foot guy surviving his own sub-orbital drop.

Not at all, ime ignoring your assumptions.

So? so if a tank fired at a snooker ball while it was in the air it would not be damaged at all? 🙄 controlled to do what it does? support this with evidence please, a bullet is a bullet, controlled or not.

"or" a larger variant? this makes me think you dont have a clue what it was, your merely baseing it on what it looked like.

Not really because the tree is not armoured or designed to take damage from said weapons, GK did the calculation based on Kains sword and said that slashing a smaller area will only increase the amount of required joules of energy in force to damage it.

a 7 foot guy covered in a heavy armour that was not damaged at all.