how do you deal with mental pain/depression?

Originally posted by leonheartmm
^what if sum thoughts are important to you and are not just your perception but truly part of reality. what if there are sum things in this world which are not transient but truly exist and are worth following outside your own happiness?

You are part of the whole of existence, the universe, the Tao(unamable), the great beyond, call it what you will, and whenever you feel separated from the whole, you suffer. I chant mantras and meditate to keep me in tune with the eternal rhythm of everything, because all is one.

Nothing truly exists as an essence, think of an atom: you can break it down till hell freezes over. Take a human being for example, if you remove one limb, does it stop being a human? If you remove another limb, or an organ, does it stop being a human? At what exact point does something stop to be what it is or starts to be what it's supposed to be? An essence, a self, is only an aggregate of elements, an appearance of a concept of what we think it is. Therefor in everyday reality, everything seems so real, but in ultimate reality there is only pure consciousness and it's the habits and form of your spirit that matters.

You have to make peace with the way things are in the world. Try to let things be. When we stop worrying and controlling things and letting go, suddenly everything seems to do exactly what they're supposed to.

"i think, therefore i am" - i think the conciousness truly exists in sum perspective.

a concousness is different form the inanimate. even though projection of reality is not reality and perception will always be an intermediary. if two people feal a certain way about each other and accept that they can not percieve reality as it is, then really, it doesnt matter that they only have mental images of each other. it is the same as if ther truly WAS a real connection between them. the conciousness is magical that way,and that kind of truth is real and matters. that reality is sumthing you shud not forget to simply escape suffering. there are sum things{in my oppinion} which are more important than just the sussation of suffering. ofcourse suffering isnt preferrable in any case, but we often suffer because of the way things in the world are, not because we interpret them in a bad way. bad things and good things do exist. you can change your perception to forget them or make them seem a little better, but really, there are times when the real world and not your perception are at fault for your suffering.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
"i think, therefore i am" - i think the conciousness truly exists in sum perspective.

a concousness is different form the inanimate. even though projection of reality is not reality and perception will always be an intermediary. if two people feal a certain way about each other and accept that they can not percieve reality as it is, then really, it doesnt matter that they only have mental images of each other. it is the same as if ther truly WAS a real connection between them. the conciousness is magical that way,and that kind of truth is real and matters. that reality is sumthing you shud not forget to simply escape suffering. there are sum things{in my oppinion} which are more important than just the sussation of suffering. ofcourse suffering isnt preferrable in any case, but we often suffer because of the way things in the world are, not because we interpret them in a bad way. bad things and good things do exist. you can change your perception to forget them or make them seem a little better, but really, there are times when the real world and not your perception are at fault for your suffering.

If you say are prepared to live by your rule of: "sum things{in my oppinion} which are more important than just the sussation of suffering", then why in the first place do you ask in your thread how to deal with mental pain if you implicitly imply that you know that some things make one suffer, but they are more important than the suffering collateral!?
The bottom line is that you should not complain of suffering if you indicate your awareness of the cause of suffering and subsequently of the secondary importance of this suffering. If then you choose to accept the suffering as an effect of your persuits, then to deal with the pain you have to detach from it. Dunno if that answers your question?

you dont get it. those sumthing dont HAVE to cause suffering, its just that in sum circumstance, they do. otherwise, ideally they cause hapiness. its not like im following suffering itself 😄 . its just that you cant just let things go when they start causing you suffering and pick them up when that stops and the hapiness starts. they wont be there waiting for you to pick them up........ they wud have moved sumthere where you cant get them.

and i think the "i" was justfied. we are SELF aware. i.e. aware if the existance of our own awareness. content and context in itself, that is why we "EXIST" in my oppinion.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
and i think the "i" was justfied. we are SELF aware. i.e. aware if the existance of our own awareness. content and context in itself, that is why we "EXIST" in my oppinion.

as i said. it is self awareness. i am a dualist for the most part, hence i dont think a physical explanation for the mechanics of conciousness can be created. however, i can give you a possible hypothesis. the "I" is the interaction between content and context as they exist in our brain. thoughts, which may be nuthing more than a bunch of electrical impulses, create a VIRTUAL pattern {just like the dots on your screen create a pattern which makes sense to YOU because you have CONTEXT by which to look at it. } which curls in on itself and creates CONTEXT {initially it is just content} with which it becomes SELF DEFINED i.e. an axiom. a given, or a basic fact.

but really, that isnt sumthing i can give you a good answer to outside the fact that self awareness is apparent to us because we FEAL self awayre, and for a fealing to exist to even feal that, you have to have sum kind of context there.

Originally posted by Shinde Imasu
Something tells me you don't realise how stupid and irresponsible that would be. "Popping pills" doesn't guarentee recovery. It may help sometimes, but that only depends on what's causing the depression. It shouldn't be taken as a way out of the situation. It's only one option, and it may not work.

I'm actually starting to write some music to help get my feelings out. It's helped a lot.

Anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

Sometimes?

take it some where else ppl.

I write... or think about the past...

MEDITATION

Originally posted by InnerRise
Sometimes tells me you don't realize that I wasn't being serious. Understandable.

Anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

I think maybe YOU missed my point.

It had nothing to do with whether I thought you were serious or not. I was merely expanding on what you said. What I said at the top of the post (The idea being "stupid and irresponsible"😉 may have been the wrong thing to start the post out with. I apologise.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
simple. how do you personally deal with mentalpain or depression. how well do you deal and what are the causative factors for it{in ur case/oppinion}.

Best place to ask that question...on an Internet forum! 😛

music is my therapy.😊

I'm a Type-2 Bi-Polar, and I take Prozac and Depakote. ermmsrug

I go for a hike/swim/run...

Then I have some drinks and watch a movie that's special to me.

Originally posted by Impediment
I'm a Type-2 Bi-Polar, and I take Prozac and Depakote. ermmsrug

I take depakote too, though I didn't know it was used to treat Bi-polar disorder.

I think that medicine is a little depressive what is very bad since normally I am already very depressed.

In the other hand, it may be a good thing since I am also a little bi-polar.

those medicines sound rather good right about now.

Perhaps Prozac, but not Depakote. But I think I can't take Prozac since it is a stimulant, and I can't take stimulants because I may be epilletic.

I think I will stop taking it and see what happens.

It sucks, that drug make it hard to lose weight.... and now that I want to lose some and I am doing some exercises at the academy it will become a problem.