Originally posted by leonheartmm
i wud say though, for very sever cases, ts better to do drugs n chill out then to kill yourself, its preferable at least. ofcourse, getting into therapy is better than doing drugs or killing yourself, so it isnt advice.
Hallucinogens will not chill you out when you're depressed.
Re: how do you deal with mental pain/depression?
Originally posted by leonheartmm
simple. how do you personally deal with mentalpain or depression. how well do you deal and what are the causative factors for it{in ur case/oppinion}.
Also, try to turn the suffering into medicine by for example imagining how much other people also suffer: say to yourself: "this is suffering, may I take this suffering for every sentient being in existence...".
Remember, the more you suffer now, the less you will suffer in the future, because your life is a process of working through all your past karma.
Originally posted by Shinde Imasu
Mmm.Really there is only one way to prove it, and that's getting a professional's opinion on the matter. I can imagine some people on these boards saying that cutting would be a fairly reliable sign, but it's not. Plenty of people cut themselves because their friends do it and they want to still be part of the group. It's really stupid, I know, but some people do do it. Cutting isn't a reliable sign of depression. It sometimes happens with depression, but not all the time.
My girlfriend has just finished therapy to help deal with depression, so I know what's it's like to both be depressed and to be close to someone who is depressed. It did shock me when I found some small scars on her wrist, and that's what got me motivated to get her to see a therapist. I had already been through it all and I knew how dangerous it was. She's doing a lot better now, and her scars (both physical and psychological) are healing well.
I agree. It is not a strange idea to me, I could think of some people... friends of mine, who would think it is cool to cut yourself.
People never show signs of depression, everyone always seems so happy, so I think it requires courage to cut yourself. Perhaps it is a bad thing, but at least it is a sign you still have courage to communicate your depression in someway. Personally, I never met someone who does that, but I always wished to know. I think its cool when you have courage to not pretend you're happy.
Originally posted by Atlantis001
I agree. It is not a strange idea to me, I could think of some people... friends of mine, who would think it is cool to cut yourself.People never show signs of depression, everyone always seems so happy, so I think it requires courage to cut yourself. Perhaps it is a bad thing, but at least it is a sign you still have courage to communicate your depression in someway. Personally, I never met someone who does that, but I always wished to know. I think its cool when you have courage to not pretend you're happy.
I never pretend I'm happy. I show my real emotions. If I'm happy, it means I'm generally happy. If I'm sad, it means there's something eating me inside. But I agree, there are some people who do fake it, and that's kinda stupid.
Originally posted by xmarksthespotLol. I remember G-proteins being the single most confusing concept when I took my first brain and behaviour course. When I pressed for a better explanation I got told just to know what they were involved in because the rest wouldn't be on the test haha.
I had to do a second year essay on Duloxetine. Ah.. memories......bad memories of stupid G-protein coupled receptor pharmacol.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
well i suppose i must have REALLY bad karma then. officially, i feal like jumping off of a building right now, too bad suicide isnt an option, it wud be sooo much easier than this shit.
It is very hard, I know from experience, but it's really simple: we have to face up to our responsibilities, because what you sow you shall reap, isn't that so evident in your own life? It's definitely clear to me, but still extremely hard to do the right thing. But suffering is really the only way to really learn and to become a better human being. It also is the only cause of happiness. The only reason there can be happiness, is because there is also suffering on the other side.
Originally posted by Wonderer
Suicide would merely amount to 'taking a breather from this life', because you'll come back and will have to face even worse manifestations of your past actions. The more we try to outrun our karma(you can also think of karma as your debt to the world), the more the winds of karma will blow against you and make it even harder for you to escape.It is very hard, I know from experience, but it's really simple: we have to face up to our responsibilities, because what you sow you shall reap, isn't that so evident in your own life? It's definitely clear to me, but still extremely hard to do the right thing. But suffering is really the only way to really learn and to become a better human being. It also is the only cause of happiness. The only reason there can be happiness, is because there is also suffering on the other side.
theres suffering, and then there is cruelty and self negation. there is a difference between the two. i dont really see a lot of sowing in reaping in my expirience, ofcourse it may be a past existance, but i dont really think that makes much sense, if you lose memory of all that you were, then you are a completely different person who ist responsible for those things. your memories define who you are.
and really, fate is a different animal from karma. it doesnt necessarily bring equilibrium like karma does. nor is it about jusice. {e.g. you cant blame karma for your child dying in this world. the karma was yours, not the child's, even though you PERSONALLY can be punished, others can not. then how will you justify such things?}.
and i do not try to outrun my karma at all.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
theres suffering, and then there is cruelty and self negation. there is a difference between the two. i dont really see a lot of sowing in reaping in my expirience, ofcourse it may be a past existance, but i dont really think that makes much sense, if you lose memory of all that you were, then you are a completely different person who ist responsible for those things. your memories define who you are.and really, fate is a different animal from karma. it doesnt necessarily bring equilibrium like karma does. nor is it about jusice. {e.g. you cant blame karma for your child dying in this world. the karma was yours, not the child's, even though you PERSONALLY can be punished, others can not. then how will you justify such things?}.
and i do not try to outrun my karma at all.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
^ i dont think so. i think that quite often, our fate is not of our own creation.
So, who or what creates this 'fate' then?
i do not know. god, universe, mankind as a whole, chance,the whill guiding the univer, sum trancendant realty, who knows. maybe it is just a delusion of perception.
and technically, your desire to change your direct human condition would already have been written into fate, so there is no reason for one who is aware of such a phenomenon, to NOT do whatever it is you want to do. you wud be a link in the chain of fate and in a way, fate would exist because you did sumthing.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
i do not know. god, universe, mankind as a whole, chance,the whill guiding the univer, sum trancendant realty, who knows. maybe it is just a delusion of perception.and technically, your desire to change your direct human condition would already have been written into fate, so there is no reason for one who is aware of such a phenomenon, to NOT do whatever it is you want to do. you wud be a link in the chain of fate and in a way, fate would exist because you did sumthing.
My friend, I would like to give you honest advice from the bottom of my heart: in meditation, I and countless other beings before me have found this happiness in the absence of thoughts, in the absence of rationalising and over-thinking about things. You need to quiet your mind and simply wake up and be aware and mindfull of the present moment. We live too much in our thoughts, in the past and in the future. Live now.
Hope that helps you on your journey.
Ps. I used to be just like you, used anti-depressants, tranquiliser drugs, etc. Then I found the Buddha within me. The amazing thing is that another member on the forum introduced me to this amazing medicine that is only to be found within your own heart and soul.