Originally posted by dadudemon
Irrelevant to your discussion but I'd like to point out that ALL the time, people think they have been wronged when they haven't. It's not necessarily delusion. It's more less classical "ego" preservation that occurs with almost every single person (even if they interpret the events as an affront to their character, it's still a form of ego preservation).In those circumstances, the only way to truly tell is to get an almost apathetic, ignorant of the situation, objective third party, to decide if an actual wrong occurred.
I'm reminded of the hundreds of times I've observed a person interpret a statement in the most negative way possible, and then took offense...when there were no less than 3 or 4 other ways to interpret that statement.
Take this simply reply: "No, no. That's NOT what i meant." That statement can be twisted into something extremely negative like a fat joke, "you're ugly" joke, etc. When in reality, it could have been self-deprecating humor or a trillion other things other than an insult towards the person that received it. But the person that received it, especially those with low-self esteem, will generally relegate such statements into an insult and take offense.
I find this quite annoying.
/rant
You're completely right, people do think they've been wronged and play the victim.
But in this case, RJ specifically said, "Oddly enough, I have done nothing to most who look on me in a negative fashion. And most of those who I have wronged, it was a "shit happens" situation. "
So he was up front saying he HAD wronged those people, not that they were feeling wronged for no reason. But thanks for all that input and for saying irrelevant to the discussion 😄
I have never used the ignore function, that I can remember. Perhaps I should and save all the petty arguments, admittedly usually started by me because I am easily irritated by RJ these days 😬
Originally posted by SyrenI have wronged exactly two people here. I'm talking about wronged in the sense that it's understandable that they think badly of me.
You're completely right, people do think they've been wronged and play the victim.But in this case, RJ specifically said, "Oddly enough, I have done nothing to most who look on me in a negative fashion. And most of those who I have wronged, it was a "shit happens" situation. "
So he was up front saying he HAD wronged those people, not that they were feeling wronged for no reason. But thanks for all that input and for saying irrelevant to the discussion 😄
I have never used the ignore function, that I can remember. Perhaps I should and save all the petty arguments, admittedly usually started by me because I am easily irritated by RJ these days 😬
The rest? I did nothing to them. Not on a personal level I mean. Example? You. The fact that I "irritate" you is no fault or doing of mine.
The other "wronged" instances, they were all trivial and stupid. Shit, DDM and I have had a few vicious arguments, but we remain the best of friends.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I have wronged exactly two people here. I'm talking about wronged in the sense that it's understandable that they think badly of me.The rest? I did nothing to them. Not on a personal level I mean. Example? You. The fact that I "irritate" you is no fault or doing of mine.
The other "wronged" instances, they were all trivial and stupid. Shit, DDM and I have had a few vicious arguments, but we remain the best of friends.
I was just clarifying something for ddm. Where I said, "Of course you would think that everyone who looks on you in a negative fashion must be wrong. Why would you ever admit they could be right about you? As for those you have genuinely wronged, why do you get to say what sort of situation it was? Surely that's up to the wronged to decide?" I only said that because you said it first. You literally divided up the people who don't like you into two distinct halves; those who don't have any reason to dislike you (in your eyes) and those who do because YOU wronged THEM, you said yourself. ddm said that people feel wronged all the time, and was implying that you possibly never actually wronged anybody, they just felt as though you had. So I explained that you fully admitted you'd wronged certain people, that it wasn't something I just assumed.
Why am I explaining any of this? And you need to let go of the fact that I said you irritate me. You do. And you still are.
Originally posted by SyrenWow, your entire post is just....
I was just clarifying something for ddm. Where I said, "Of course you would think that everyone who looks on you in a negative fashion must be wrong. Why would you ever admit they could be right about you? As for those you have genuinely wronged, why do you get to say what sort of situation it was? Surely that's up to the wronged to decide?" I only said that because you said it first. You literally divided up the people who don't like you into two distinct halves; those who don't have any reason to dislike you (in your eyes) and those who do because YOU wronged THEM, you said yourself. ddm said that people feel wronged all the time, and was implying that you possibly never actually wronged anybody, they just felt as though you had. So I explained that you fully admitted you'd wronged certain people, that it wasn't something I just assumed.Why am I explaining any of this? And you need to let go of the fact that I said you irritate me. You do. And you still are.
I need to let it go? haermm What, exactly, am I holding on to?
You're trying too hard.
Originally posted by Syren
You're completely right, people do think they've been wronged and play the victim.But in this case, RJ specifically said, "Oddly enough, I have done nothing to most who look on me in a negative fashion. And most of those who I have wronged, it was a "shit happens" situation. "
Originally posted by Syren
ddm said that people feel wronged all the time, and was implying that you possibly never actually wronged anybody, they just felt as though you had. So I explained that you fully admitted you'd wronged certain people, that it wasn't something I just assumed.
I'd like to point out that I prefaced my "off-topic" post with an:
"Irrelevant to your discussion..."
I actually have no idea WTF you two are talking about but figured I'd chime in with my POS opinion on that particular statement you made.
Originally posted by Syren
Perhaps I should and save all the petty arguments, admittedly usually started by me because I am easily irritated by RJ these days 😬
This. 👆