WW Hulk vs Superman (pure slugfest)

Originally posted by Kurash
flawed logic because we cant produce anything near the mass of the sun. By saying the hulk's strength is immeasurable means he was able to lift any weight scientists could produce, meaning they could not measure his strength by those standards. This is different however, because scientists cannot produce anything close to the weight of the sun even though they ahve been able to measure its weight. Just beacuse hucs strength is immeasurable doesnt mean he can lift anything weve been able to measure, since Strength and weight arent the same thing. Its about being able to replicate what weve measured, and we cant replicate the weight of a planet, so we know huc was forced to try and lift anything that heavy.

They did however replicate 3.6 billion degrees, so in comparison they have a standard measurement that they can compare superman's HV to.

Just pointing out the logic that people are trying to make by using the real life scientific aspect

Ok - going by your logic - the Hulk was able to withstand the most extreme temperatures that science can produce as if they are nothing. Therefore, since there is an article saying the most extreme they can produce is 3.6 billion, he can easily resist Superman's Heat Vision.

See what I did there?

Originally posted by Kutulu
Ok - same token - All Star Superman lifted quintillions of tons that scientists could record. Hulk lifted more weight than scientists could record.

Going by your own logic, Hulk is stronger than All Star Superman.

You can't have your cake and eat it too. Logic goes both ways.

The article showed no scan of Superman's heat vision. You lose, once again, and once again failed to show the scan of him having heat vision that showed a number anywhere close to 3.6 billion degrees.

Actually, hulk is stronger than allstar superman, because technically, his strength has no limit. I never argued against that because its pretty much the entire basis of the hulk.

Well can you show me a scan proving that glactus can produce 10 billion degrees of heat with the narrator stating that he is doing so? No. But its a given, we know that a full power galactus can destroy the universe, thus there is a high chance that he is able to produce alot more than 10 billion degrees. However, I find it funny that it was stated on panel that scientists stated that supermans heat visio was hotter than anything that they have been able to measure (which the limit is three billion) and people don't doubt hulks immeasurable strength, but everyone doubts supermans immeasurable hv.

Originally posted by Kutulu
Ok - going by your logic - the Hulk was able to withstand the most extreme temperatures that science can produce as if they are nothing. Therefore, since there is an article saying the most extreme they can produce is 3.6 billion, he can easily resist Superman's Heat Vision.

See what I did there?

what comic was written like in the 70's or 80's

and huc has been frozen before so evidently the most extreme temp. at the time that comic was written wasnt extreme enough since it didnt have any effect on him. So going by that comic, there have been strides in how high/low we can caluclate heat and cold, since huc has been both frozen and effected by heat since then, and the most extreme at that time had "no effect" on him

see what i did there?

are you aware in planet hulk the hulk held together the tectonic plates on planet sakkar, im sure that puts him past allstar supermans strength

Originally posted by cmack
are you aware in planet hulk the hulk held together the tectonic plates on planet sakkar, im sure that puts him past allstar supermans strength

Originally posted by Kurash
what comic was written like in the 70's or 80's

and huc has been frozen before so evidently the most extreme temp. at the time that comic was written wasnt extreme enough since it didnt have any effect on him. So going by that comic, there have been strides in how high/low we can caluclate heat and cold, since huc has been both frozen and effected by heat since then, and the most extreme at that time had "no effect" on him

see what i did there?

And Hulk's shown that he can resist being frozen just fine on more than one occasion, even when Iceman tried freezing him solid, so I would think it's safe to say that he can the "current' most extreme temperatures just fine.

I have to say, this is some of the most asinine semantics I've ever seen discussed seriously.

Originally posted by Accel
Well, if you want to get technical, those comics that were written in the 60s and 70s took place about 10-15 years ago in Marvel's timeline.

And Hulk's shown that he can resist being frozen just fine on more than one occasion, even when Iceman tried freezing him solid, so I would think it's safe to say that he can the "current' most extreme temperatures just fine.

hes been frozen

Originally posted by Kurash
hes been frozen

Originally posted by KK the Great
I have to say, this is some of the most asinine semantics I've ever seen discussed seriously.

i would agree, i only jumped in to correct something

Originally posted by KK the Great
I have to say, this is some of the most asinine semantics I've ever seen discussed seriously.

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Really? Stay tuned it's gonna get worse

Yeah before you know it, people will be saying that Darkseid can solo a Celestial... oh wait.

Originally posted by Kutulu
Yeah before you know it, people will be saying that Darkseid can solo a Celestial... oh wait.

Skyfather < Entity < Abstract

Celestials are entity level
Darksied is entity level
ergo it is entirely within the realm of possiblity that he could take one out.

It would be a difficult fight but it is entirely possible.

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Let me break it down for you.

Skyfather < Entity < Abstract

Celestials are entity level
Darksied is entity level
ergo it is entirely within the realm of possiblity that he could take one out.

It would be a difficult fight but it is entirely possible.

Nevermind Darkseid being above Odin... but being able to take out a Celestial?

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Let me break it down for you.

Skyfather < Entity < Abstract

Celestials are entity level
Darksied is entity level
ergo it is entirely within the realm of possiblity that he could take one out.

It would be a difficult fight but it is entirely possible.

I'm not even going to try to defend this.........
over

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I agree.

😖hifty:

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Let me break it down for you.

Skyfather < Entity < Abstract

Celestials are entity level
Darksied is entity level
ergo it is entirely within the realm of possiblity that he could take one out.

It would be a difficult fight but it is entirely possible.

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Let me break it down for you.

Skyfather < Entity < Abstract

Celestials are entity level
Darksied is entity level
ergo it is entirely within the realm of possiblity that he could take one out.

It would be a difficult fight but it is entirely possible.

youve dug yourself into a deep hole, now ive got to try and dig you out . . . ill do my best

Ladies and gentlemen of KMC, Kutulu and others would certainly want you to believe that Huc's strength is immeasurable or that DS is below entity level. And they make a good case. Hell, I almost felt pity myself! But, ladies and gentlemen of KMC, I have one final thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, I assume you all know about Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense!

Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this thread? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this thread! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a comic book poster on a forum defending a radical claim that DS is above entity level, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, next time you try to judge the huc's strength as immeasurable or claim DS is below entity level, ask yourself, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of KMC, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must remember . . . none of this makes sense! The defense rests.

Originally posted by Kurash
youve dug yourself into a deep hole, now ive got to try and dig you out . . . ill do my best

Ladies and gentlemen of KMC, Kutulu and others would certainly want you to believe that Huc's strength is immeasurable or that DS is below entity level. And they make a good case. Hell, I almost felt pity myself! But, ladies and gentlemen of KMC, I have one final thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, I assume you all know about Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense!

Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this thread? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this thread! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a comic book poster on a forum defending a radical claim that DS is above entity level, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, next time you try to judge the huc's strength as immeasurable or claim DS is below entity level, ask yourself, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of KMC, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must remember . . . none of this makes sense! The defense rests.

Johnny Cochran ftw.

Originally posted by Kurash
youve dug yourself into a deep hole, now ive got to try and dig you out . . . ill do my best

Ladies and gentlemen of KMC, Kutulu and others would certainly want you to believe that Huc's strength is immeasurable or that DS is below entity level. And they make a good case. Hell, I almost felt pity myself! But, ladies and gentlemen of KMC, I have one final thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, I assume you all know about Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense!

Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this thread? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this thread! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a comic book poster on a forum defending a radical claim that DS is above entity level, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, next time you try to judge the huc's strength as immeasurable or claim DS is below entity level, ask yourself, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of KMC, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must remember . . . none of this makes sense! The defense rests.