Originally posted by Kutulu
The core of the sun and a full on nuclear explosion at point blank range yield similar heat values - ground zero of a multi megaton nuclear bomb can reach temperatures of 35 million degrees and higher - Hulk has survived that. He has already survived temperatures greater than the core of the sun, and they did less damage than Gladiator's beams did - who, incidentally, could move planets, and who Hulk gave a major ass whuppin'.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Where is this 3.6 billion or higher number coming from? The core of the sun is 15,000,000C . . .
NO idea - "someone" mentioned that they could not measure the heat of his vision, so someone else thought that it meant suddenly that his vision was greater than 3.6 billion, which is ridiculous.
I countered with a statement on-panel that no amount of heat measured could damage the Hulk. Statement has been fully countered.
Originally posted by vlaaad12345
/sigh no nuclear explosions arent=to the core of the sun which supermans heat vision is even hotter than.
Wrong.
http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl1512/15120260.htm
The hydrogen bomb uses the nuclear properties of deuterium and tritium (the two isotopes of hydrogen) to set up an uncontrolled, self-sustaining, thermonuclear fusion reaction, as opposed to the fission bomb in which uranium or plutonium is the principal explosive. The hydrogen bomb is thus a fusion bomb that fuses hydrogen to become helium. In a fusion reaction, the collision of two energy-rich nuclei results in a natural rearrangement of their protons and neutrons to produce two or more reaction products, together with a release of energy of an amount E given by Albert Einstein's formula E = mc2 (mass is denoted by 'm' and velocity of light by 'c'😉. For a hydrogen bomb reaction to become self-sustaining, a so-called critical temperature of very high magnitude (about 35 million degrees Kelvin; zero degree Kelvin is equal to minus 273 degrees Celsius must be attained; the explosion of a fission bomb generates temperatures of that magnitude.
Originally posted by Kutulu
I have already defended the 3.6 billion plus statement with the scan of the leader.Show me on panel where it says it exceeds 3.6 billion plus. They only said unmeasured by human technology - that was hyperbole. I by the same hyperbole showed that the Leader could not find temperatures to burn the Hulk. The statement has been countered.
The core of the sun is 15 million - a similar temperature to what Human Torch does during a Nova Flame attack. WWH shrugged off the core of the sun temperatures like nothing.
your scan of the leader said nothing but "extreme temperatures" and it has already been countered by the fact that hulk has been frozen before which shows that he obviously didnt have the equipment to get to get cold enough. If he cant freeze the hulk what makes him credible that he can create temps above or equal to 3.6 billion degrees?
You say unmeasured by human technology, well last time i checked HUMAN TECHNOLOGY was able to measure up to 3.6 billion degrees farenheit, so therefore if supes HV is unmeasurable by those standards is it clearly above 3.6 billion degrees
Again you bring up the core of the sun, disregarding that supes HV is hundreds of times hotter
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Where is this 3.6 billion or higher number coming from? The core of the sun is 15,000,000C . . .
they stated that scientists cant measure supes HV because it is to hott, and the hottest recorded temp scientists have been able to measure is 3.6 billion (farenheit)
Originally posted by Kurash
You say unmeasured by human technology, well last time i checked HUMAN TECHNOLOGY was able to measure up to 3.6 billion degrees farenheit, so therefore if supes HV is unmeasurable by those standards is it clearly above 3.6 billion degrees
"last time I checked" is where your argument falls to pieces. The scientists that couldn't measure Superman's HV didn't have data taken from the ZMachine. Besides who would Leader not have had access to something similar?
Originally posted by Kurash
your scan of the leader said nothing but "extreme temperatures" and it has already been countered by the fact that hulk has been frozen before which shows that he obviously didnt have the equipment to get to get cold enough. If he cant freeze the hulk what makes him credible that he can create temps above or equal to 3.6 billion degrees?You say unmeasured by human technology, well last time i checked HUMAN TECHNOLOGY was able to measure up to 3.6 billion degrees farenheit, so therefore if supes HV is unmeasurable by those standards is it clearly above 3.6 billion degrees
Again you bring up the core of the sun, disregarding that supes HV is hundreds of times hotter
Your argument is hyperbole, that the human cannot measure the temperature of the heat vision is a moot point because Superman's heat Vision is telekinetic in nature, and it accelerates the molecules within it's path, so no measurement will read it. The only statement of true temperature measurement was to say it's hotter than the core of the sun, which I have proven through scans that Hulk can survive easily.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
"last time I checked" is where your argument falls to pieces. The scientists that couldn't measure Superman's HV didn't have data taken from the ZMachine. Besides who would Leader not have had access to something similar?
i dont know when that comic was written where they tried to test supes HV
Originally posted by Kurash
i dont know when that comic was written where they tried to test supes HV
Once again - the only on-panel statement that I have personally seen is that it was hotter than the core of the sun - which Hulk has survived. Show me a scan that states anything about Superman's vision being in the billions of degrees.
Originally posted by Kutulu
Once again - the only on-panel statement that I have personally seen is that it was hotter than the core of the sun - which Hulk has survived. Show me a scan that states anything about Superman's vision being in the billions of degrees.