Originally posted by Diamond Kisses
[b]Of course he could not survive multiple rockets just like that, but you speak as if he would walk straight into them. His shield recover after a short period of time and he is quicker, stronger, more agile, smarter and more endurant than the Doom main character. He also have dodged missiles and rockets before, without effort.This is the guy who can woop brute and covenant asses in hand-to-hand. He who flip Scorpions and can run miles without breaking a sweat.
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ofcourse he wont walk into them, but his speed and strength do little good in Doom corridors, hes not going to be able to run miles in Doom corridors, their so packed in and close together hed be lucky to spread his legs at all, the likelyness of him without the Doom powerups taking on hordes of pinky demons, cyberdemons while escaping from rocket fire is unlikely and the denizens of hell dont care about killing their own. Also yes he is all those things, but in-game the Doom character is able to pull through while your playing thanks to dumb A.I wheras if the A.I was not excistent and it was a true battle, monsters would not be sitting in little square boxes waiting to open to jump out, he also has the advantage of Doom powerups, wheras half of them MC would not "know" how to use and a lot of them he wouldnt be able to use, like certain armours, special devices.
his strength would not do him much could, i mean sure he can H2H a pinkdemon but while hes doing that 5 imps could be laying the smackdown on him, a cyberdemon could be launchign rockets while a mancubus is coming from behind wth double plasma cannons (which are like twice the size of fuelrods and fire at incredible speed)
Why would he not be capable of using the devices and power-ups?
There is more to Master Chief than an A.I. Trough large parts of II and the entire III he manage WITHOUT an A.I and directions.
Physical strength is more than just punches. He could tackle his way trough loads of demons and at the same time steer his weapons and close-combat skills.
Have you played any Doom? It is far from only narrow paths and slim hallways. Master Chief also jump higher than the Doom character and can access to other planes without having to use elevator and such. He is advanced in both strategical and combat situations and he is not stupid enough to run into a hallway that is crowded with rocketlauncher demons and such.
He is also smart enough to make sure no opponent appear him from behind. You speak of Master Chief like he is a dumb marine with special powers. While in real talk, he is a living, tactical, superadvance computer with special physical and mental powers. Along with a special formed Mjolnir armor that allows him to resist damage even from falls over two kilometers tall, to get up without a scratch and only a few seconds of trouble before being fully recovered.
No normal person would ever be capable of surviving such a fall, not even with his armor. The fall would damage both the inside and the structure of the body, even if the armor stayed intact. His body is far beyond a human.
Originally posted by Diamond Kisses
[b]Why would he not be capable of using the devices and power-ups?There is more to Master Chief than an A.I. Trough large parts of II and the entire III he manage WITHOUT an A.I and directions.
Physical strength is more than just punches. He could tackle his way trough loads of demons and at the same time steer his weapons and close-combat skills.
Have you played any Doom? It is far from only narrow paths and slim hallways. Master Chief also jump higher than the Doom character and can access to other planes without having to use elevator and such. He is advanced in both strategical and combat situations and he is not stupid enough to run into a hallway that is crowded with rocketlauncher demons and such.
He is also smart enough to make sure no opponent appear him from behind. You speak of Master Chief like he is a dumb marine with special powers. While in real talk, he is a living, tactical, superadvance computer with special physical and mental powers. Along with a special formed Mjolnir armor that allows him to resist damage even from falls over two kilometers tall, to get up without a scratch and only a few seconds of trouble before being fully recovered.
No normal person would ever be capable of surviving such a fall, not even with his armor. The fall would damage both the inside and the structure of the body, even if the armor stayed intact. His body is far beyond a human.
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because a lot of the powerups require skin administration, MC is covered in basically all armour, so either he would have to take off some armour to use the powerup which would make him vulerable while hes doing it, wheras a Marine from Doom uses varying degrees of shileding imo greater than MC shield by far and still has skin showing so he can administer special kits and powerups.
ive played all the dooms lol, most of the areas especially Doom 3 are cramped, their not going to give him enough room to run thats for sure, there are a few large areas where he may get some running in but apart from that, hes unlikely to build any momentum. And its not stupidity, how would MC know theres all those demons round there, infact he cant because Demons can just teleport in half the time, behind and in front, its my turn to ask have you played Doom games?
MC smart enough to make sure theres nothing behind him, read above teleportation point, also he doesnt have any time of special awareness, he just uses technology and his own training, which the Doom marine has....yes thanks to teleportation and the way the monsters are theres easily ways he could be smothered with demons. And he doesnt get up without effort, his armour from that fall gets locked not to menstion he seems offline for a good minute or so after his fall.
infact come to think of it, there are special boots i think in one of the dooms, may be doom 2 or the first one that allow you to bounce and fall from any distance and you dont get damaged through falling damage
I have played Doom, yes.
Exactly. He is offline, after falling over two kilometers. He will not be falling two kilometers in the Doom games, that is for sure.
What makes you think the shield of the Doom character is stronger than Master Chief's shield?
Master Chief has a near instant reaction time and his accuracy is near perfect. He is also smart and after fighting the monsters he would learn their weaknesses. With perfect percision, near zero reaction time and with analyzed weaknesses, Master Chief would slaughter his way trough Doom.
Braver, but much braver is pushing it. The reason the UNSC do not do what Master Chief does is because they can not. The edge between stupidity and bravery is a fine line and if the marines were going to try what Master Chief does, it is stupidity because they can not. When Master Chief does it, I consider it bravery because he is capable of doing it. The UNSC can be just as brave, just not capable of doing it. And then, not doing it can be bravery in itself, because then they life trough and is capable of continue fighting the war 😄
Originally posted by Diamond Kisses
[b]I have played Doom, yes.Exactly. He is offline, after falling over two kilometers. He will not be falling two kilometers in the Doom games, that is for sure.
What makes you think the shield of the Doom character is stronger than Master Chief's shield?
Master Chief has a near instant reaction time and his accuracy is near perfect. He is also smart and after fighting the monsters he would learn their weaknesses. With perfect percision, near zero reaction time and with analyzed weaknesses, Master Chief would slaughter his way trough Doom.
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no, hell get shot many times with rockets, you cant possibly belive hes going to be able to dodge every rocket, plasma blast etc etc that attacks him, you would be very much mistaken in that respect, since as i said before, the areas in Doom are very small, one rocket can fill a corridor, fired at a rapid rate of fire will see MC dead.
MC's shield has shown little resistence afaik, i mean in the games he gets 1 or 2 shotted in seconds, the Doom character can survive many rockets, and thats all we can go by for the Doom shields, since in Cinematics you dont get attacked or shielding does not come into play.
these things wont help him against the amount of foes he could be up against, imp blasts, pinky demons comeing throughout the corridors, his speed, strength and intellect will not help him when a load of arch viles teleport in to rip him apart with their magic, Mancubuses. Also in Resurrection theres a beast that can time control if ime not mistaken. He would eventually die because the aritfacts and special objects in doom he will not be able to use, i cant imagine MC stopping at every data console and such reading all the information to learn how to use certain objects, then theres the fact if this is a real battle not including dumb monster AI then they wont be allowing him to just pause the game and read the things, hell be attacked before he can possibly read anything. Nor would his tactically intelligent mind not think of stopping to read random information, theres no way he could realise it as useful even if he had the time to take it, he would know that stopping could be the end of him.
One stray Hellknight or Mancubus blast=Masterchief in over his head.
Originally posted by Diamond Kisses
[b]Braver, but much braver is pushing it. The reason the UNSC do not do what Master Chief does is because they can not. The edge between stupidity and bravery is a fine line and if the marines were going to try what Master Chief does, it is stupidity because they can not. When Master Chief does it, I consider it bravery because he is capable of doing it. The UNSC can be just as brave, just not capable of doing it. And then, not doing it can be bravery in itself, because then they life trough and is capable of continue fighting the war 😄 [/B]
what about that one marine who lost it on the flood level?
Originally posted by Burning thought
no, hell get shot many times with rockets, you cant possibly belive hes going to be able to dodge every rocket, plasma blast etc etc that attacks him, you would be very much mistaken in that respect, since as i said before, the areas in Doom are very small, one rocket can fill a corridor, fired at a rapid rate of fire will see MC dead.MC's shield has shown little resistence afaik, i mean in the games he gets 1 or 2 shotted in seconds, the Doom character can survive many rockets, and thats all we can go by for the Doom shields, since in Cinematics you dont get attacked or shielding does not come into play.
these things wont help him against the amount of foes he could be up against, imp blasts, pinky demons comeing throughout the corridors, his speed, strength and intellect will not help him when a load of arch viles teleport in to rip him apart with their magic, Mancubuses. Also in Resurrection theres a beast that can time control if ime not mistaken. He would eventually die because the aritfacts and special objects in doom he will not be able to use, i cant imagine MC stopping at every data console and such reading all the information to learn how to use certain objects, then theres the fact if this is a real battle not including dumb monster AI then they wont be allowing him to just pause the game and read the things, hell be attacked before he can possibly read anything. Nor would his tactically intelligent mind not think of stopping to read random information, theres no way he could realise it as useful even if he had the time to take it, he would know that stopping could be the end of him.
One stray Hellknight or Mancubus blast=Masterchief in over his head.
well I don't know many humans who can survive rocket shots ermm
anyway I say chief finds the cube thing or whatever it was, kill the boss guy (never finished the doom 3 game...) and nukes the entire facility
Originally posted by SpadeKing
well I don't know many humans who can survive rocket shots ermmanyway I say chief finds the cube thing or whatever it was, kill the boss guy (never finished the doom 3 game...) and nukes the entire facility
what do you mean by this statement, the marine in Doom cannot survive rocket shots normally, but he has many shields, theres shields all over the place in Doom, unfortunatley for MC, he is unlikely to be able to use them since their based around body armour
nah, MC dies at Cyberdemons for sure, in Doom 2 theres 2 of the guys, and there is not even a soul cube, but the main one at the end of Doom 3 can only be harmed by soul cube...how will chief know how to use it?, how will he have enough time to take out the Cyberdemon before hes toast by rockets, the thing launches them rapid fire and if ime assuming this is a proper battle without game mechanics it wont get stuck on the other side of the map
Originally posted by Diamond Kisses
[b]Considered the fact that the rockets of Doom might be weaker than the Halo rockets?Master Chief > Cyberdemon!
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rockets in Doom weaker than halo? according to what, have you considered rockets in Halo may be 100 times weaker than Doom rockets? no theres nothing to state this...
thats innacurate, the only weapon that can harm the demon is Soulcube which needs the soul of 3 enemies, that can only be taken one at a time, while hes messing about with this, a plethora of rockets could easily hit him, the Cyberdemons rate of fire and explosion radious is great
Halo rockets give out a 'BOOM' while Doom rockets give out a 'BANG' and Halo rockets cover a larger area with their explosion than the Doom explosions do 😛
And where did you get this idea that only the Soul Cube can destroy a Cyberdemon? Along with the idea that Master Chief would not be able to use it? It makes things easier, but it is not required.