Cyborg vs Darkseid(slugfest no omega effect)

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
"His physical strength rivals my own" - Darkseid in direct reference to Superman

Physical might. And rivals, not equals. WW has been stated to rival Superman's strength before, but it was always clear that he was stronger. In Superman Confidential, Darkseid just pimphanded Superman. Yes, I know it's pre-death Superman, but Henshaw was cloned after pre-death Superman. Darkseid also manhandled Orion in Legion and took a shot from Supergirl to no effect, all fairly recently.

I don't like how people on message boards tend to jump on or off bandwagons based on the latest showing. Cyborg has a history of being a class 100 character on average while Darkseid has been noticably above class 100 in the majority of his portrayals. It wasn't long ago when Hal stood toe-to-toe with this amped Cyborg, punched his jaw off, and Arisya cut his arm off.

I don't want to get into nvr and quanchi's argument, but one thing: if you consider the fight between Superman and Darkseid in Adv.#595 a "stalemate" then I think you would have to say Surfer stalemated Thanos in SS#59 I think it was (IG tie-in). Both fights were brief, even physical battles.

Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
Physical might. And rivals, not equals. WW has been stated to rival Superman's strength before, but it was always clear that he was stronger. In Superman Confidential, Darkseid just pimphanded Superman. Yes, I know it's pre-death Superman, but Henshaw was cloned after pre-death Superman. Darkseid also manhandled Orion in Legion and took a shot from Supergirl to no effect, all fairly recently.

I don't like how people on message boards tend to jump on or off bandwagons based on the latest showing. Cyborg has a history of being a class 100 character on average while Darkseid has been noticably above class 100 in the majority of his portrayals. It wasn't long ago when Hal stood toe-to-toe with this amped Cyborg, punched his jaw off, and Arisya cut his arm off.

I don't want to get into nvr and quanchi's argument, but one thing: if you consider the fight between Superman and Darkseid in Adv.#595 a "stalemate" then I think you would have to say Surfer stalemated Thanos in SS#59 I think it was (IG tie-in). Both fights were brief, even physical battles.

henshaw.

If we are going to go by what's been said...

Borg has said "I am more powerful than you" on more than one occasion to Superman.

The cosmic judges from the Trials saga tended to agree with Borg on it too.

Oh, and not only can Borg make his cybernetic half almost completely invulnerable...he could do the opposite as well...make it completely malleable to the point that it's like fighting mud.

The majority of opinion has cyborg winning this thus far becuz physically here hed be way to much for Darkseid who relies on his omega effect to much.

DS doesn't the OE to beat Borg. But a slugfest handicaps him severely and makes the fight idiotic. You can;t take Borg in a slugfest if he's using his powers at all.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
DS doesn't the OE to beat Borg. But a slugfest handicaps him severely and makes the fight idiotic. You can;t take Borg in a slugfest if he's using his powers at all.

That was a poorly written Darkseid.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
That was a poorly written Darkseid.

Not cause he lost to H/P DD. No. It was Jurgens not having a god damn clue about how to write him.

And don't you dare tell me to shut up with the excuses. you are far worse.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Not cause he lost to H/P DD. No. It was Jurgens not having a god damn clue about how to write him.

And don't you dare tell me to shut up with the excuses. you are far worse.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Becuz he lost no doubt. Look man its canon and quit with all your excuses.

so is thanos losing to squirrel girl 🙂

Originally posted by Kurash
so is thanos losing to squirrel girl 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nah its squirrel girl shes a joke. Thanos has never mentioned it and it hasnt been canonized by any other book outside her silly crappy comic. But if you truly believe yourself that she is canon she is pretty unbeatable in her own comic.

Originally posted by Bransolute
No, it's canon... SG's just really, really, really, really powerful. 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
I persoanlly find what goes on in her comic as ridiculous not to mention the fact that Thanos was trying to bring down the multiverse. Dont you agree that he was acting out of character and like aclone. They covered their ass with the watcher there but it was a poorly written comic. I read it once and then was upset with myself for having read this crappy comic where a team took on christmas trees.

it is ridiculous i agree, but it is canon

Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
Physical might. And rivals, not equals. WW has been stated to rival Superman's strength before, but it was always clear that he was stronger. In Superman Confidential, Darkseid just pimphanded Superman. Yes, I know it's pre-death Superman, but Henshaw was cloned after pre-death Superman. Darkseid also manhandled Orion in Legion and took a shot from Supergirl to no effect, all fairly recently.

I don't like how people on message boards tend to jump on or off bandwagons based on the latest showing. Cyborg has a history of being a class 100 character on average while Darkseid has been noticably above class 100 in the majority of his portrayals. It wasn't long ago when Hal stood toe-to-toe with this amped Cyborg, punched his jaw off, and Arisya cut his arm off.

I don't want to get into nvr and quanchi's argument, but one thing: if you consider the fight between Superman and Darkseid in Adv.#595 a "stalemate" then I think you would have to say Surfer stalemated Thanos in SS#59 I think it was (IG tie-in). Both fights were brief, even physical battles.

Oh, a rational debater. That's not something we see here much. 🙂
I don't really care much for DC, but your post was good. 😎

Originally posted by Kurash
it is ridiculous i agree, but it is canon

Originally posted by quanchi112
I persoanlly find what goes on in her comic as ridiculous not to mention the fact that Thanos was trying to bring down the multiverse. Dont you agree that he was acting out of character and like a clone. They covered their ass with the watcher there but it was a poorly written comic. I read it once and then was upset with myself for having read this crappy comic where a team took on christmas trees.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nah it was out of character and never mentioned outside this comic. You can choose to think that but I dont.

Haha.

Quanchi acting like a fanboy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nah it was out of character and never mentioned outside this comic. You can choose to think that but I dont.

Well this doesn't really make a lot of sense, does it?

Aren't you the one who says we can't disregard bad showings based on the fact that we don't like it?

Can we disregard Apokolips Now! then as well?

It was out of character, and I don't believe its ever been mentioned outside of that comic.