Illadelph's Multi Genre Team Tournament Confirmation Thread

Started by Soljer153 pages
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
IIRC Kira's exact words were "it increases the force of gravity on you" and since their powers are magical in nature that could just be literally true.

That should be Akuki's to post - and scans would be the best way.

However, if that's the case...well...

"2. No magic (spell casting or magical attacks). Magically granted physical abilities (strength, agility, etc., barring senses) are allowed."

Btw, I PMed 2 of the anime episodes to Illadelph when I asked him about Jotaro. And he OKed it then.

Venom was cleared as well.

For the fifth time, it doesn't matter if Ill okayed your characters before hand. What matters are the votes now.

Originally posted by Soljer
That should be Akuki's to post - and scans would be the best way.

However, if that's the case...well...

"2. No magic (spell casting or magical attacks). Magically granted physical abilities (strength, agility, etc., barring senses) are allowed."


Two things, first Kira's abilities fall more in the area of spiritualism as the sword is just a manifestation of a part of his spirit. If that's banned then Jotaro gets an auto ban as well, same with Black Knight if we're banning enchanted swords.

Here's the scans of Kira's ability in action:
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/manga-rainbleach-ch169-03.png
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/manga-rainbleach-ch169-04.png
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/manga-rainbleach-ch169-05.png

Enchanted swords aren't banned, but I think most can see a clear difference between an enchanted sword and a sword that makes people double in weight each time it touches them.

Otherwise, I draft a street leveller with Captain Britain's excalibur. After all, it's just an enchanted sword, right?

Originally posted by Soljer
Enchanted swords aren't banned, but I think most can see a clear difference between an enchanted sword and a sword that makes people double in weight each time it touches them.

Otherwise, I draft a street leveller with Captain Britain's excalibur. After all, it's just an enchanted sword, right?


Again I must continue to point out that every single member of this tournament has easy methods of countering it. I don't really want to explain them to my opponents, but if you want I can pm you Soljer and explain them.

Hey, my vote doesn't matter at this point. Not in the least. I'm just playing devil's advocate.

But I don't think 'easy counter' is sufficient to knock someone down from above the caps. For example, someone who can manipulate electricity on a universal level - but are useless if wet - have a pretty RIDICULOUSLY easy counter, but would still be above the caps.

I'm just trying to keep the conversations going, to be honest. Like I said, a little bit of devil's advocate while no one else is posting. Give the people that read that much more to think about.

Can we lower the number of people required to boot a character? 😬

Jotaro may have Star Platinum, but he's only human. Human frailities, human need to breath, human durability, human intellect.

He's not bulletproof, he has no precog, and if his stand gets hurt or take a shot to the head, heart, for example, he's dead. Hell, if he takes a shot to the head or the heart, his stand goes with him.

Star Platinum's abilities are dependent on his physical condition. A moderately good speedster can take him out if they cut his throat.

Originally posted by SwindlingSmurph
Can we lower the number of people required to boot a character? 😬

No NEVER!!! (Says the guy whose characters are being challenged the most 😛)

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Jotaro may have Star Platinum, but he's only human. Human frailities, human need to breath, human durability, human intellect.

He's not bulletproof, he has no precog, and if his stand gets hurt or take a shot to the head, heart, for example, he's dead. Hell, if he takes a shot to the head or the heart, his stand goes with him.

Star Platinum's abilities are dependent on his physical condition. A moderately good speedster can take him out if they cut his throat.

A moderately good speedster can take out Doctor Strange by cutting his throat, too.

Originally posted by Soljer
A moderately good speedster can take out Doctor Strange by cutting his throat, too.

Star Platinum is Jotaro's only weapon. And Strange DOES have pre-cog. In addition to auto-shields, etc, etc, etc. 😛

Star Platinum's range is only about 1 meter, maybe 1.5 at the outset. He can't stop say, a machine gun.

Shenobi Shaw: Smurf, Akuki, Bransolute, Red
Savage Dragon: Fox, Red, Trickster
Dalek Sec:
Klaw: Smurph, Trickster, Red, Blair, Bran
Mirror master: Bransolute, Akuki, Trickster, Smurph
Jotaro: Akuki, Smurph, Charlotte DeBel, Bransolute
Venom: Smurph, Fox, Bran
Kira:Trickster, Bran, Smurph
Seras:Trickster

Venom has one shotted Spider-Man, has gone toe to toe with Class 90's and above, can use his tendrils to mess with people's insides and make shields, is durable as f*ck, can go invisible, has the winning record against even Carnage, and barely even has weaknesses nowadays.

Why isn't he banned...?

Originally posted by SwindlingSmurph

Why isn't he banned...?

Because you need five more votes for it to even be considered. 🙂.

Ok Trickster, I have a question for you. How can you possibly vote to disqualify Kira and justify keeping Jotaro?

Jotaro has been seen:

Catching a bullet 2 fired about 2 inches from his skull.
Punching through thick walls of Diamond hard substances.
The manga specifically states that stands can't be destroyed by physical damage.
They're also completely invisible to anyone who doesn't have a stand.

He shouldn't be here.

Stands are sustained by concentration and willpower. A sonic attack, or a distraction, a gas attack, there are plenty of ways to kill the user without fighting the stand. And if you can see ghosts, I assume you can see stands.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Stands are sustained by concentration and willpower. A sonic attack, or a distraction, a gas attack, there are plenty of ways to kill the user without fighting the stand. And if you can see ghosts, I assume you can see stands.

Jotaro himself has way over the limit durability. Here he is getting beat on by Za Warudo, and that him not his stand taking the damage:
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/taleran/Jotaro/Durability/duarbility01.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/taleran/Jotaro/Durability/durability02.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/taleran/Jotaro/Durability/durability03.jpg

Za Warudo is stronger than Dio himself, whose wild and injured fist punches do this:

So, Jotaro has insane durability, and strength, and has invisible, semi-invincible beings under his control... ermmnone

The stand is part of Jotaro's body and protects him when it is able. 2nd, you're not giving out the context in that scan. That's from the 'Dio's world' arc, which is not usable to me since I am drafting Jotaro from before that arc.

3, that's not Dio breaking the wall.