Illadelph's Multi Genre Team Tournament Confirmation Thread

Originally posted by Soljer
For the fifth time, it doesn't matter if Ill okayed your characters before hand. What matters are the votes now.

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I'm giving you guys power to police yourselves.

Use it wisely.

2nd and third scans, you can see Star Platinum's arms. And for the last time, I can't use feats or scans from the 'Dio's World' story arc. Thus your point is moot.

About Klaw- he grew large enough to shapeshift in a train by absorbing all surrounding sounds in the radius of a few blocks- it's not a feat he'll perform any moment especially when in team as he risques injuring his teammates. And to remember- AFAIK nowhere was stated that his strength increases with his size, so he's a class 5 EVEN in his giant form (though I have to check but even in those giant shapes he hasn't lifted ANYTHING huge and class 5 is his highest strength feat.
The number of construsts are limited and those constusts are only kinetic energy (shots&punches) proof. Chi attacks from current Iron Fist, Jubilee's plasma "fireworks" would go through them with ease. In fact his feats in terms of reflecting attacks with sonic constructs (which we can allow no more than 3 according to rules) pale if compared to Syrin who deflected laser beams once using screams.

And those aren't more durable by themselves than Jotaro's stands for example. His "Sonimals" were dissipated sometimes just by knocking them down from the roofs of the buildings. He himself is immune to poisons and impacts, that's all.

And as for present Venom...as much as it pisses me off he has a huge number of good showings now even against his two presumable weaknesses (sonics&fire). That makes his ass damn hard to kill or KO.

In fact, current Venom is even more indestructable than classic Klaw- symbiote seems to lose or lessen to unnoticeable his major weaknesses, and Klaw still has his weak spot which is destructable by normal means.

Charlotte, how many of those showings are from Eddie Brock Venom? Stuff from Gargan and other hosts doesn't count.

We need to ban Sage. No damn telepaths.

If it's Eddie Brock Venom, it's OK. Venom started being classified as mid meta only with Gargan (when Scorpion's enchanted strength added to Venom's own). So Brock Venom is still low meta.
The same stuff is with Klaw. Some of his big feats are either when he was empowered by unstable Vibranium (Vibranium cancer) or from Secred Wars era (Beyonder possession and stuff). The thing that his body was used to craft the lenses for focusing Galactus' powers means nothing as Klaw by himself never did that and it took Doom level genius to do that.
The substance his body made of might be capable on such things in potential, but in reality in terms of withstanding attacks he and his constructs have deflected\absorbed only bullets and punches. The average durability of constructs isn't much better than say Tackmaster's energy weaponry and in some aspects even worse than that- a little bit more durable than Spiderman's webbing.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
We need to ban Sage. No damn telepaths.

Darling, Sage is OK. She has NO active telepathy as she sacrificed it for defencive purposes. Current Sage is a cyberpath with one of the best psychic defences and some wierd powers like "jumpstart ability" (though usind that on Jubilee may lead to unpredicable results).

She can recover her TP in an instant if she wished. she's also a cyberpath and a computer genius.

Don't grow Trick Darling, he may grow uncomfortable with it ermmha

The last two ponits aren't banned. In fact , a jumpstart ability in a team full of mutants can lead to unpredicablle amping results, but by herself Sage doesn't violent anything. Her TP was turned negative, and rare active uses are for communication only AFAIR, not for offencive purposes.

Hello guys.

Hows everything progressing?

Quite normal. The questions with Venom and Klaw were partially answered- mid metas are Gargan Venom& clone Klaw (the body, including the claw is composed only of solidified sound), while Brock Venom still has fire\sound weaknesses and Klaw is able to be KOed physically via damaging his claw- the only 'normal' part of his body. Also there's no proof his strength increases while increasing the size and 5 tons is stated to be his strength at his hugest form.
He's no Giant Man in that aspect.

One mistake- Klaw DID create flameproof construct but that was when he was empowered by unstable Vibranium, and that wasn't really flameproof one- just "unable to be damaged by heat" as there were nothing to melt in it.
In general Klaw's construsts are in between of present Spidey webbing and Taskmaster's photonic weaponry in terms of hardness and there's set limitations on number of constructs.

Looking good.

I have a bit of a strength feat here. Nothing major but I just downloaded issue 17 and had a quick look round.

Here he is chucking a big chunk of the side of a building with ease and one hand

And heres another very little one. Just ripping out something that resembles those big safes in the wall.

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Is it me or is Dragon kind of boring? 😬

Oh here he is chucking some monster far away. I must admit his friends are better than he is.

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In fact classic Klaw is a low meta for a reason that unlike people like Hydroman&Sandman whose bodies are completely composed of inorganic substanse he still has damagiable part which can be damaged by stuff other than his plot device weaknesses- his sonic horn (once A.I.M. attached an explosive to it in order to make Klaw obey (if he miscarried the orders the claw would be destroyed thus killing Klaw).

And even an improved(!) constructs of him seved purely for purpose of distraction of FF. As for creating Sonimals being able to rival Thing in terms of strength- BS. Here you can see Thing TOYING with an ape which was an improved Sonimal (she's class 5 at best and Thing was like class 70 in 80ies, so it's no wonder he toys with that creature). And Invisible Woman doesn't even see them as any danger.

This just made me laugh. It is showing how tough he is know.

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Anyway Klaw shouldn't be allowed because is is pretty damn powerful i think.

He's versalite, yes, but low meta=\= one trick pony, his constructs are nothing special in terms of power (though being an expert in advanced weaponry, he was able to replicate some military tech with ease) being just class 5, his pure sonic attacks are not much different from Banshee's and Syrin's (and apart from making constructs out of solid sound, Syrin sometimes does even better stuff with sound like deflecting lasers with her scream).

And calling Savage Dragon "he" all the time might cause confusion as we're discussing BOTH Savage Dragon& Klaw.

Klaw can create constructs which are nothing odd in terms of raw power, he can shapeshift and change his size- but his strength remains class 5 even at his hugest form.