Illadelph's Multi Genre Team Tournament Confirmation Thread

Started by leonidas153 pages

coming in late on some of this, but, um, yeah -- we don't like power copiers or multipliers. 😬 doesn't mean we're not gonna take them. i'm not gonna stand on principle to the point where my team will get its a$$ kicked.

i'd prefer to see some rules changed, but whatever -- we'll try and make use of them like anyone else and leave it to the people to decide whether we're pushing things too far. whatever way the votes go is fine by me.

seriously, all this bickering about picks -- the hell?? you get a vote. you don't like someone vote against them and move along . . .

i'd like to officially rescind my vote against synch. i was going on hearsay about him and didn't know much. when cresh wasn't getting catty with digi, he provided some helpful info him and it was enough to convince me to alter my vote.

as for deathlok -- his strength and durability are less than shaw's. his speed is very good but less than spidey's and his offensive abilities are good but not great. as i said, if you think he doesn't belong, vote him out if you feel it necessary to do so. 😬

Originally posted by leonidas
coming in late on some of this, but, um, yeah -- we don't like power copiers or multipliers. 😬 doesn't mean we're not gonna take them. i'm not gonna stand on principle to the point where my team will get its a$$ kicked.

i'd prefer to see some rules changed, but whatever -- we'll try and make use of them like anyone else and leave it to the people to decide whether we're pushing things too far. whatever way the votes go is fine by me.

seriously, all this bickering about picks -- the hell?? you get a vote. you don't like someone vote against them and move along . . .

i'd like to officially rescind my vote against synch. i was going on hearsay about him and didn't know much. when cresh wasn't getting catty with digi, he provided some helpful info him and it was enough to convince me to alter my vote.

as for deathlok -- his strength and durability are less than shaw's. his speed is very good but less than spidey's and his offensive abilities are good but not great. as i said, if you think he doesn't belong, vote him out if you feel it necessary to do so. 😬


He seems like your standard cyborg. I've not seen any cyborg in comics more poweful than spidey by a an enormous margin unless they were a mutie like cable. He's fine.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
On the one hand, I wish Mungi was competing in this. On the other hand, he'd probably find some uber canadian picks and pwn us all. durlaugh

I was hoping Mungi would compete as well.

Originally posted by illadelph12
I was hoping Mungi would compete as well.

Should I beg him to be on my team? 😛

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
On the one hand, I wish Mungi was competing in this. On the other hand, he'd probably find some uber canadian picks and pwn us all. durlaugh
I think that is everyone's fear with Mungi 😛

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I've not seen any cyborg in comics more poweful than spidey by a an enormous margin
I have.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t461697.html

For instance. There are more.

Originally posted by SwindlingSmurph
I have.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t461697.html

For instance. There are more.

😂

But we're not picking him.

We actually considered Death's Head I for a while, but apparently I'm one of the (very) few on that bandwagon.

😮

Originally posted by DigiMark007
😂

But we're not picking him.

We actually considered Death's Head I for a while, but apparently I'm one of the (very) few on that bandwagon.

😮

Yeah... I was actually just perusing your respect thread for him (DH I), thinking about whether he would have had potential for the tourney, right before Nvr's comment.

Partially cuz I thought you WOULD pick him. 😛

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I've not seen any cyborg in comics more poweful than spidey by a an enormous margin unless they were a mutie like cable.

Well there's:
Cyborg who seems noticeably more powerful.
HankHenshaw who is at least slightly above Spiderman.
DeathsHead is more powerful (at least the incarnations I've seen).
Dethlok strikes me as being up there.
Overtkill would take out Sipderman without getting hurt at all.
There was a PreCrisis cyborg type named Tyr who fought the LOSH.

srug

Originally posted by SwindlingSmurph
Yeah... I was actually just perusing your respect thread for him (DH I), thinking about whether he would have had potential for the tourney, right before Nvr's comment.

Partially cuz I thought you WOULD pick him. 😛

Hehe. Yeah, I tried, then leo was like "No."

Someone like Deathlok is pushing the envelop with the limits. But DHI is definitely a little under them. Despite his nifty and versatile Mega-Man-like arm attachment, and solid all-around abilities, I feel like Pete would take a comfortable majority over him. You could do worse in your picks for sure, but I didn't want my fanboy-ness to override my reason.

Originally posted by Bransolute
F*cking the editor?

Not just one but many...wait what?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
On the one hand, I wish Mungi was competing in this. On the other hand, he'd probably find some uber canadian picks and pwn us all. durlaugh

Or use obscure chracters as I am the master of them after all..Hawkman [not anymore, but he was], Alpha Flight [not anymore], Captain Comet, Machine Man. I also have others I could use here, which I won't mention but they have yet to be picked
🥷

Originally posted by Newjak
I think that is everyone's fear with Mungi 😛

😖hifty:

http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/c/canadiana.htm

Draft Update:

Digimark, Leonidas and Newjak

Deathlok - http://www.marveldirectory.com/indi.../d/deathlok.htm
Gideon - http://www.marvel.com/universe/Gideon
Iron Spider-Man - http://www.marvel.com/universe/Spid..._(Peter_Parker)
Multi-Paul - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-Paul

Originally posted by illadelph12
[b]Gideon - http://www.marvel.com/universe/Gideon[/B]

No way. This guy can copy up to six powers if he is used for the prep area. He's worse then synch.

Originally posted by illadelph12
[b]Draft Update:

Digimark, Leonidas and Newjak

Deathlok - http://www.marveldirectory.com/indi.../d/deathlok.htm
Gideon - http://www.marvel.com/universe/Gideon
Iron Spider-Man - http://www.marvel.com/universe/Spid..._(Peter_Parker)
Multi-Paul - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-Paul [/B]


mad props on gideon. he's like the best power copier. I loved when he pwned the new warriors. best of all, he can fight like freaking batman without a power at all. I vote yes, since he technically has no powers but a fast healing factor when not copying.

Originally posted by JasonK4
12 votes against him and he keeps appearing on the list as if he isn't. I guess I can place a ban on him unless Soljer and illa object.

If it had come to our votes, Jason, I would have voted against him - that'd make at least us two, which means that he would indeed be banned.

However...uhmmm...whatever. 🙂.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Guys, how many people have tried to freaking deface me in the past 30 pages or so? Seriously?! This tournament sucks, and it's because all I've had to do is fend off personal attacks.

Shush. You're being great, Digi - and the bitchfest is pretty bad, but it'll pass, and good times'll be here again. 🙂.

Originally posted by Creshosk
They're commiting the et tu fallacy.

Digi thinks the tournament is stupid yet he wants to participate. He thinks duping shouldn't be allowed yet he is going to use a character he thinks breaks the limits even though he just voted against it.

Why?

"Other people are doing it so I should."

If he wants to be competitive...uhhmmm, why not?

Originally posted by Akuki
No, my evidence is that Mirror master has a weapon that consitutes offensive organic matter manipulation and which is therefore specifically banned in the rules.

Here he clearly uses his gun to turn an opponent into glass and shatter them. (no they weren't originally glass) And yes that gun is his standard equipment.

4. No offensive matter manipulation. Only the elements of the battlefield can be altered. No character that can manipulate their opponents molecular structure (organic components), will be allowed. Manipulation of inorganic material is allowed, but direct use on the opposition is banned.

Didn't V just claim it wasn't standard equipment? That one scan hardly proves that it is. Further, didn't V claim the guy was already made of glass? That one scan doesn't prove that he wasn't. Cmon, now.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
What's OMM? 😕

Offensive Matter Manipulation - the density doubling sword.

Originally posted by Akuki
It is gravity because the effect disappears if the object splits apart, if it was density control those sub portions of the object would still be heavy

As for all the people bagging on Kira I can tell you that any character can eliminate the threat from his power with supplies found in any normal home.

As I've mentioned if it were gravity field manipulation, it wouldn't matter how many times you split it up - it wouldn't 'disappear' either. Meaning, this 'evidence' is null and void. Further - it still seems equally likely to be gravity as density.

Originally posted by Citizen V

How long do we have until we have to get a replacement pick in?

Twenty four hours since the banning. Or else Jason, Ill, or myself choose one for you.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Our duplicator pick? No. We see duplication as a clear advantage for those teams, and picked one ourselves to be able to compete with them. No spite intended, just draft picking.

Also, the most recent objections list doesn't have my vote against multi-paul that I included.

I just checked page 1 to confirm my confusion. Are you even involved in this tourney? Ill hasn't named you as a judge and you aren't listed as a participant. Are you just here to continue to give me a hard time.

*digi says a bad word*
* cresh takes exception*
* digi apologizes*
* cresh bashes everything about digi's argument, character, etc.*
* digi tries to remain civil*
* cresh ruins the tournament for digi*

...I don't hate the tournament. The "digi thinks the tournament is stupid but he's participating" is a lie, and is about the 12th time you've put words in my mouth. I'm sick of you, and having to defend my opinions that you've turned into personal attacks...not the tourney.

As for my "backhandedness", I'm being as upfront as possible about my opinions for and against characters. But if something is being allowed, despite my opinion, are you suggesting that I shouldn't draft those types of characters? That's the impression I'm getting. If I think it should be banned, it should be banned for me regardless of what everyone else can do. great logic.

😐

Digi, I know mods can't put people on an ignore list...but can we just pretend? Whatever is between you and cresh...can we just ignore it? Be the bigger man, Digi. C'mon.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
He seems like your standard cyborg. I've not seen any cyborg in comics more poweful than spidey by a an enormous margin unless they were a mutie like cable. He's fine.

Hank. Henshaw.

I vote no to Gideon. He's an external, and as such can hardly be killed. He can copy any super powered being, including skills, etc.

He can also copy many more than Synch

Originally posted by SwindlingSmurph
I vote no to Gideon. He's an external, and as such can hardly be killed.

This sounds quite reasonable, but some evidence of his durability would be nice.
Originally posted by SwindlingSmurph
He can copy any super powered being, including skills, etc.

Skill copying, or copying a super powered being (who has to be less then Spiderman level in this case - the same justification as Synch's) isn't too powerful.
Originally posted by SwindlingSmurph

He can also copy many more than Synch

This sounds like "He's better than another pick! ban him!"

No different than one person drafting Captain America, another drafting Spiderman and the former complaining because Spiderman is stronger and faster. 😬.

Originally posted by Soljer
If it had come to our votes, Jason, I would have voted against him - that'd make at least us two, which means that he would indeed be banned.

However...uhmmm...whatever. 🙂.

Shush. You're being great, Digi - and the bitchfest is pretty bad, but it'll pass, and good times'll be here again. 🙂.

If he wants to be competitive...uhhmmm, why not?

Didn't V just claim it wasn't standard equipment? That one scan hardly proves that it is. Further, didn't V claim the guy was already made of glass? That one scan doesn't prove that he wasn't. Cmon, now.

Offensive Matter Manipulation - the density doubling sword.

As I've mentioned if it were gravity field manipulation, it wouldn't matter how many times you split it up - it wouldn't 'disappear' either. Meaning, this 'evidence' is null and void. Further - it still seems equally likely to be gravity as density.

Twenty four hours since the banning. Or else Jason, Ill, or myself choose one for you.

Digi, I know mods can't put people on an ignore list...but can we just pretend? Whatever is between you and cresh...can we just ignore it? Be the bigger man, Digi. C'mon.

Hank. Henshaw.

Um, I seem to remember saying that no cyborg was more powerful than spiderman unless they had some kind of extra abilities beyond just being a cyborg. i wish everyone would stop trying to educate nvr as if I dont' know what i'm talking about. K thanks.

Originally posted by Soljer
This sounds quite reasonable, but some evidence of his durability would be nice.

Skill copying, or copying a super powered being (who has to be less then Spiderman level in this case - the same justification as Synch's) isn't too powerful.

This sounds like "He's better than another pick! ban him!"

No different than one person drafting Captain America, another drafting Spiderman and the former complaining because Spiderman is stronger and faster. 😬.

Um gideon can be hurt very badly. trust, I'm a new warriors fan, original series that is, not this new crap. He just heals well.

Originally posted by Soljer
Skill copying, or copying a super powered being (who has to be less then Spiderman level in this case - the same justification as Synch's) isn't too powerful.

But he can copy amalgams, who are over Spiderman.