Originally posted by King_Mungi
Fair point, but Loki has been known to amp [not saying he did it here as there is no proof], but I'm sure his reduce in stamina and durability came into play just like it did with Wrecker. As mentioned his strength was said to be immeasurable in the issue where he fought Wrecker. Do I think Wrecker is stronger? No, but this issue implied he was. Next apperance there definetly was a rather large difference in power between the two. Wrecker puts up a fight, but Odinson clearly wins [Scans posted in the link I posted above]As I mentioned earlier, Loki has shown to still be able to go toe to toe with Thor when he wasn't depowered and really wasn't phazed.
Thor's lack of stamina and durability was a deciding factor in the fight with Loki; Thor collapsed in exhaustion.
As Loki noted, though their physical strength was now equal thanks to Thor's depowering, Loki retained the stamina and durability of an immortal.
Originally posted by Jonathanos
Thor's lack of stamina and durability was a deciding factor in the fight with Loki; Thor collapsed in exhaustion.As Loki noted, though their physical strength was now equal thanks to Thor's depowering, Loki retained the stamina and durability of an immortal.
I know, I meant Loki could say he could match Thor's strength as like Wrecker he could deliver the punishment but couldn't take it as his durability was gone and his stamina faltered very quickly.
Definetly, I was merely talking about physical strength as Thor was still said to have immeasurable strength. That's why I refered to the first apperance of Wrecker his classic version as when has he ever shown to generate a forcefield or teleport people away with a flip of his hand ever again? He could with his crowbar after he was taught by Ulik, but never really replicated his earlier feats.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Man that upsets me as I was taken completly out of context and I have no way to defend myself in that other thread. Never did I claim Thor was not effected, or do I think Wrecker is stronger then Thor now as he clearly isn't. Not at all.
Nik didn't say you'd claimed Thor was not affected. He said you claimed Wrecker was stronger than Thor.
And I don't see what was "low" about what he did, Val. He asked others to refute or support what Mungi was saying.
Man that upsets me as I was taken completly out of context and I have no way to defend myself in that other thread. Never did I claim Thor was not effected, or do I think Wrecker is stronger then Thor now as he clearly isn't. Not at all.
Now you're lying?
First two posts, I quote you word-for-word.
I never say you said Thor wasn't effected at all.
As for not defending yourself, maybe this is a far out, crazy idea but why not um...sign up there?
I mean, I know it makes no sense whatsoever but I'm suggesting it.
Originally posted by Jonathanos
Nik didn't say you'd claimed Thor was not affected. He said you claimed Wrecker was stronger than Thor.And I don't see what was "low" about what he did, Val. He asked others to refute or support what Mungi was saying.
But he ignored everything else I was saying, as in this issue they implied he was. Then in later apperances refered to him near or his equal.
I don't have a problem with him asking others, but the way he went about it was bad as basically they were attacking me over things I didn't say.
Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Now you're lying?
First two posts, I quote you word-for-word.I never say you said Thor wasn't effected at all.
As for not defending yourself, maybe this is a far out, crazy idea but why not um...sign up there?
I mean, I know it makes no sense whatsoever but I'm suggesting it.
You used two posts out of how many others did I make? They believe I think Wrecker is stronger then Thor. They think I didn't know about how Thor's god powers were stripped away, they even mentioned it was Tanaraq who powered Wrecker which I even said in the quote you did post. They were implying I believe Thor someone wasn't physical hindered.
Apparently I need an admin email or something as Canadian proxies are temporally disabled. Happened to me a month ago, I will try to sign up now.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
I know, I meant Loki could say he could match Thor's strength as like Wrecker he could deliver the punishment but couldn't take it as his durability was gone and his stamina faltered very quickly.Definetly, I was merely talking about physical strength as Thor was still said to have immeasurable strength. That's why I refered to the first apperance of Wrecker his classic version as when has he ever shown to generate a forcefield or teleport people away with a flip of his hand ever again? He could with his crowbar after he was taught by Ulik, but never really replicated his earlier feats.
That isn't how Loki put it. He wasn't claiming that his godly stamina and durability made up for a strength deficit.
He said that now their physical strength is equal but the difference is that while he has the stamina and durability of a god, Thor does not.
Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Because he was already attacking me.My post was a response to his. Seemed to me he was saying it was said I had to rely on other people.
Are we forgeting your post earlier? You told me to read comics, but then you went to the other board to help. I don't have a problem with you not reading the issue or asking others as I don't know everything in comics I ask for help too, but you went about it poorly
Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
^^ this isn't worth responding to but I will anyway.You saying a She-Hulk more than twice as physically strong as Thing is not stronger than Base Hulk and Full-Power Wrecker is the most absurd thing I can think of at this moment.
Oh and Hercules? A solid Class 100? Tried his hardest and couldn't so much as move She-Hulk's arm...but noio! She's not stronger than FP Wrecker at all.
Yeah.....you really need to read comics.
Originally posted by Jonathanos
That isn't how Loki put it. He wasn't claiming that his godly stamina and durability made up for a strength deficit.He said that now their physical strength is equal but the difference is that while he has the stamina and durability of a god, Thor does not.
I didn't say that, I said COULD be a reason for it not saying he said it.
Pretty much exactally like with Wrecker, but apparently Wrecker was said to be physically stronger then Thor. His stamina and durability greatly hindered his ability here as well
Originally posted by King_Mungi
You used two posts out of how many others did I make? They believe I think Wrecker is stronger then Thor. They think I didn't know about how Thor's god powers were stripped away, they even mentioned it was Tanaraq who powered Wrecker which I even said in the quote you did post. They were implying I believe Thor someone wasn't physical hindered.Apparently I need an admin email or something as Canadian proxies are temporally disabled. Happened to me a month ago, I will try to sign up now.
If you have trouble, one of us can post an activation request in the staff forum.
Also, I don't think Nik intended to mislead anyone. I will put up a post to clarify what it is that you believe.
Are we forgeting your post earlier? You told me to read comics, but then you went to the other board to help. I don't have a problem with you not reading the issue or asking others as I don't know everything in comics I ask for help too, but you went about it poorly
True enough but that was not aimed at you. It was aimed at Draco that's what the ^^ is for. Except I didn't notice he was actually three posts up ahead of mine.
Originally posted by Jonathanos
If you have trouble, one of us can post an activation request in the staff forum.Also, I don't think Nik intended to mislead anyone. I will put up a post to clarify what it is that you believe.
Aces, it worked.
I believe it wasn't his intention, but it turned out badly for me as they wern't getting the full story as I don't think Wrecker is stronger then Thor far from it as basically every apperance after that we clearly see Thor > Wrecker.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
I didn't say that, I said COULD be a reason for it not saying he said it.Pretty much exactally like with Wrecker, but apparently Wrecker was said to be physically stronger then Thor. His stamina and durability greatly hindered his ability here as well
If Loki had not specifically noted their strength to be equal, I might be inclined to agree. But Loki's line is pretty clear to me.
Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
True enough but that was not aimed at you. It was aimed at Draco that's what the ^^ is for. Except I didn't notice he was actually three posts up ahead of mine.
Fair enough, simply a misunderstanding.
However, "and this Mungi guy gets on my nerves quite often"....what?
Originally posted by Jonathanos
If Loki had not specifically noted their strength to be equal, I might be inclined to agree. But Loki's line is pretty clear to me.
Like I said earlier you have a completly fair point, but Thor's strength was still said to be immeasurable.
So technically his powers fluxed here, which doesn't suprize me as seems to be a norm for Thor.
EDIT: waiting for an email to activate my account, but hasn't come yet