Originally posted by Raoul
konvict didnt one shot superman. superman was back in the fight seconds later. getting knocked down is not the same as getting one shotted.proof that hulk's strength > konvicts?
Superman eyes was closed and he was temporarily knocked out. He recovered fast but it was a tko.
Feats prove that hulk is stronger.
Holding a planet together, busting a asteroid the size of 2 earths. Lifting 150 billion tons over his head (a mountain).
Its not up for me to prove that hulk is stronger because that is easy. Prove that konvikt is stronger and by the way hulk is also stronger then titus and despero if you want to add that to the list and I can give you thousands of reasons on why I say that and both one shotted superman.
Originally posted by carver9
Superman eyes was closed and he was temporarily knocked out. He recovered fast but it was a tko.Feats prove that hulk is stronger.
Holding a planet together, busting a asteroid the size of 2 earths. Lifting 150 billion tons over his head (a mountain).
Its not up for me to prove that hulk is stronger because that is easy. Prove that konvikt is stronger and by the way hulk is also stronger then titus and despero if you want to add that to the list and I can give you thousands of reasons on why I say that and both one shotted superman.
Originally posted by RaoulWhy wouldnt I use this as a prime example. I mean Supes isnt holding back. Its a perfect example.
again you use the sacrifice fight...
Originally posted by fangirl101Most of this is completely wrong. Orion cant heal himself faster than he can be damaged. After the Ds fight in countdown he was about to die. He wasnt healing himself during this fight either. You are simply making things up. You are exaggerating the astro force. Godblast damaged a Celestial and ran off Galactus. What has the af done?
No. He can't. Orion's Mother box powers are so great that she can constantly renew orion's molecular structer faster than he can be harmed. The AF has universal level power. Thor's god blast doesn't.As for WW and Hulk. How can you compare the two? Wonder Woman a Superfast Martial Artist with Planet movign Strength versus a dimwit even like war hulk. He could never tag superman. And certainly not in any meaningful way like Wondy can.
WW has a thunderclap in his arsensal. Supes gets hit all the time as well. The more pissed off Hulk gets the stronger he gets as well. Team 2 wins.
Originally posted by fangirl101Scans?
Containing a Quantum Universe destroying Blast/energies.
Originally posted by vlaaad12345Is this cbr?
LOLOLOL at sentry beating hal or wwh hitting anyone on team 1 in a forum fight.
Originally posted by fangirl101How arent sentry and WW Hulk top tiers?
considering how Sentry isn't a top tier and neither is WWh, does it matter? Did Sentry stay in the air and hurl energy at hulk or did he engage him head on. Cuz you know the hulk is such a wonderful flyer.
Originally posted by carver9
Superman eyes was closed and he was temporarily knocked out. He recovered fast but it was a tko.Feats prove that hulk is stronger.
Holding a planet together, busting a asteroid the size of 2 earths. Lifting 150 billion tons over his head (a mountain).
Its not up for me to prove that hulk is stronger because that is easy. Prove that konvikt is stronger and by the way hulk is also stronger then titus and despero if you want to add that to the list and I can give you thousands of reasons on why I say that and both one shotted superman.
if you want to go down that road, then hulk was one shotted by storm during the onslaught saga... then by cable and storm working together...
and its not my fault you try to downplay superman feats constantly...
Originally posted by quanchi112
Why wouldnt I use this as a prime example. I mean Supes isnt holding back. Its a perfect example.
yeah, if you want to twist the argument to your own ends...
Originally posted by SasaraixxSupes was physically dominating her but not enough for him to prevent her from escaping him. She is physically inferior to him. Supes dominated though imo with his out to kill mentality and the sunamp he definitely should have ko'd her.
I'm really confused. I thought Supes was "physically dominating" her and that the only reason she survived was by "hiding and trickery." 🙁 In a WW thread you use it as a low showing for her, but in a Supes thread you use it as a low showing for him. I'm confused. 🙁Anywho, I think I might agree with you Quan. For me, it really comes down to who fights who, and how they fight. I think anyone taking on WWH h2h on the ground is just stupid. Even if they can beat him, it wastes time. And Superman taking Thor is a loss for Supes. In this scenario, Team 2 wins.
If we simply bfr WWH though, then Team 1 obviously wins because Hal and Orion just double team Thor, while Supes takes down Sentry. Even *if* he can't beat Sentry, he can certainly stalemate him long enough for the other 2 to take down Thor.
I dont think its that easy for them to bfr Hulk.
Originally posted by fangirl101Who has Orion oneshotted comparable to these two?
Orion one Shots Sentry or WWH.
Originally posted by RaoulAgreed. No one is oneshotting anyone here. Thats biased talk. These are all big boys.
...you're serious? honestly?i agree... anyone who cries out 'character x one shots character y' is talking out of their ass. especially in this fight.
Originally posted by fangirl101They just fought...and it ended in a stalemate. Superman is much more powerful than the instance you are referring to.
If the AF can One shot superman, It's most assuredly can one shot the hulk. Do I need to post the scan?
Originally posted by RaoulFeats and such. The way the jla fought was terrible. I mean a rock took out Firestorm. Thats just plain bad writing.
konvict didnt one shot superman. superman was back in the fight seconds later. getting knocked down is not the same as getting one shotted.proof that hulk's strength > konvicts?
Originally posted by RaoulWhat did I twist?
if you want to go down that road, then hulk was one shotted by storm during the onslaught saga... then by cable and storm working together...and its not my fault you try to downplay superman feats constantly...
yeah, if you want to twist the argument to your own ends...
Originally posted by fangirl101
Feats? and what feat does Thanos have? None. The proof of his strength is in who he fights. Now don't get me wrong, but Konvict pwned the JLA. So i'd say that gives him some credibility.
This isnt about thanos.
Konvikt have yet to prove that hes on hulk level. Just because he defeated the jla dont put him in hulks league.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I have given my opinion. I dont feel that I twisted anything. The reason I use it as an example is because like I said Supes wasnt holding back and pulling his punches.
its like Sasaraixx said, you twist the sacrifice fight constantly to suit your own ends, when as a fight, its pretty open to interpretation...
usually people tend to have just the one interpretation, though...
Originally posted by Raoul
if you want to go down that road, then hulk was one shotted by storm during the onslaught saga... then by cable and storm working together...and its not my fault you try to downplay superman feats constantly...
yeah, if you want to twist the argument to your own ends...
Storm never one shotted hulk or cable. Cable said that he was going to mentally strip hulk brain but the entire time hulk was pounding on him which lead storm throwing a house on him. Hulk retreated, he never lost, cable and storm almost got killed.
Originally posted by RaoulI do have one interpretation. Ill explain in in detail.
its like Sasaraixx said, you twist the sacrifice fight constantly to suit your own ends, when as a fight, its pretty open to interpretation...usually people tend to have just the one interpretation, though...
One one end we have Superman showing he is physically superior to WW. It shows she cant trade blows with him even for a moment. She relies on her stealth,sneaking up behind him,and using animals to provide her the time needed to escape. So,we know she cant stand and trade blows with him.
On the other side of this Superman didnt ko her. He got in some shots as well against a weaker character who held back while he was sunamped. So,while he proved he is just physically beyond her he underperformed up to his abilities imo. With all the circumstances and his demeanor he should have beaten her and she shouldnt have been able to escape.
Originally posted by carver9
Storm never one shotted hulk or cable. Cable said that he was going to mentally strip hulk brain but the entire time hulk was pounding on him which lead storm throwing a house on him. Hulk retreated, he never lost, cable and storm almost got killed.
amazing how when its someone else you see it one way, but when its superman...
shock shock horror...
Originally posted by quanchi112
I do have one interpretation. Ill explain in in detail.One one end we have Superman showing he is physically superior to WW. It shows she cant trade blows with him even for a moment. She relies on her stealth,sneaking up behind him,and using animals to provide her the time needed to escape. So,we know she cant stand and trade blows with him.
On the other side of this Superman didnt ko her. He got in some shots as well against a weaker character who held back while he was sunamped. So,while he proved he is just physically beyond her he underperformed up to his abilities imo. With all the circumstances and his demeanor he should have beaten her and she shouldnt have been able to escape.
so you have two sides to it, then?
Originally posted by quanchi112
I do have one interpretation. Ill explain in in detail.One one end we have Superman showing he is physically superior to WW. It shows she cant trade blows with him even for a moment. She relies on her stealth,sneaking up behind him,and using animals to provide her the time needed to escape. So,we know she cant stand and trade blows with him.
On the other side of this Superman didnt ko her. He got in some shots as well against a weaker character who held back while he was sunamped. So,while he proved he is just physically beyond her he underperformed up to his abilities imo. With all the circumstances and his demeanor he should have beaten her and she shouldnt have been able to escape.