Originally posted by Raoul
good lord...do you honestly want me to answer and continue this vicious circle?
Lol, I dont want this to be a vicious debate, if I said something wrong then I would like for you to tell me so that I wont say it in the future but I also want you to provide proof.
Thats all I ask for.
Raoul, I have you fustrated huh.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol, I dont want this to be a vicious debate, if I said something wrong then I would like for you to tell me so that I wont say it in the future but I also want you to provide proof.Thats all I ask for.
Raoul, I have you fustrated huh.
i'm not frustrated, i just don't have the energy required to keep going over this again and again...
fed up, would be a more accurate analysis...
Originally posted by fangirl101
Count backwards from 1million and then respond.
man, i'm not even going to bother... Thor, the x-men, cap, spidey, surfer, the heralds in general, even most green lanterns...
none of them get the kind of hassle superman does over feats...
i think its pretty petty that haters just have to keep at it and at it...
hoepfully when bada and i are finished with the new rules, it'll force people to argue more for the characters they want to win, rather than trying to downplay their opponent at the expense of everything else...
Originally posted by Raoul
i'm not frustrated, i just don't have the energy required to keep going over this again and again...fed up, would be a more accurate analysis...
man, i'm not even going to bother... Thor, the x-men, cap, spidey, surfer, the heralds in general, even most green lanterns...
none of them get the kind of hassle superman does over feats...
i think its pretty petty that haters just have to keep at it and at it...
hoepfully when bada and i are finished with the new rules, it'll force people to argue more for the characters they want to win, rather than trying to downplay their opponent at the expense of everything else...
Originally posted by fangirl101
I tried that. Just argue about how well the character I think wins does. But around here it's constant belittling. I hate, I mean HATE superman. But all the put downs have forced me to defend him. It's crazy. In my honest opinion, Superman is as strong as Thanos is. And that coming from someone who hates both characters equally.
Superman is nowhere near as strong as Thanos. 😠
Originally posted by Raoul
man, i'm not even going to bother... Thor, the x-men, cap, spidey, surfer, the heralds in general, even most green lanterns...none of them get the kind of hassle superman does over feats...
i think its pretty petty that haters just have to keep at it and at it...
hoepfully when bada and i are finished with the new rules, it'll force people to argue more for the characters they want to win, rather than trying to downplay their opponent at the expense of everything else...
Every character that you have named is overrated also. People say that spiderman cant be touched due to his spider sense but we have a lot of on panel proof that show people in wolverine caliber being able to hit him.
How can you overrate the xmen? 😕
There are some things said about surfer that I dont agree with also. There are people out there that think that he can fight like flash but hes not even close. He has a nice bull rush but thats about it.
Everyone that you name has been argued against, its not just superman, superman, wonder woman, martian manhunter, silver surfer, all have a lot of people coming in there battle saying that they could punch someone a million times before they blink but there isnt any on panel proof showing that they could even think that fast, let alone move that fast.
I just argue when people throw on panel feat out of the window and base there characters off of imaginary dream.
Originally posted by fangirl101
I tried that. Just argue about how well the character I think wins does. But around here it's constant belittling. I hate, I mean HATE superman. But all the put downs have forced me to defend him. It's crazy. In my honest opinion, Superman is as strong as Thanos is. And that coming from someone who hates both characters equally.
Now I agree with this, superman strength wise is as strong as thanos but thanos is overrall to powerful for superman, let alone captain marvel and superman.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Prove it. Superman's strength feats outstrip anyone elses. Thanos uses cosmic amping most of the time. and he's hardly fought against an uber top tier worth a damn. Silver Surfer is a retard against Thanos.
Thanos has fought against tons of top tiers and showed an advantage, unlike Superman who is on par with top tiers unless he's not holding back, even which in that case he still does worse than Thanos. Feats matter less than who they win against on a consistent basis.
Darkseid doesn't have a huge amount of strength feats but you would place him at top tier or above simply because how he has handled top tiers in the past.
Originally posted by Antiphon
Thanos has fought against tons of top tiers and showed an advantage, unlike Superman who is on par with top tiers unless he's not holding back, even which in that case he still does worse than Thanos. Feats matter less than who they win against on a consistent basis.Darkseid doesn't have a huge amount of strength feats but you would place him at top tier or above simply because how he has handled top tiers in the past.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Thanos and superman are even in strength. Thanos amps and has insane durability. This is where he comes out on top in hand to hand.
Even Thanos' base strength without amping is higher than normal mode Superman. Superman "not holding back" is weaker than Thanos amping his strength.
Originally posted by TheBadguyEveryone knows the Hulk wins any fight in a brawl if the person is anywhere hear his base levels. The hulk is just too one dimensional.
Supes doesn't get anywhere near the amount of crap someone like Hulk or a dbz guy gets over feats. Supes gets around the same amount that Thanos/Seid/Thor/Surfer gets, and half what Supes gets is because of his fanbase.
Originally posted by fangirl101
I tried that. Just argue about how well the character I think wins does. But around here it's constant belittling. I hate, I mean HATE superman. But all the put downs have forced me to defend him. It's crazy. In my honest opinion, Superman is as strong as Thanos is. And that coming from someone who hates both characters equally.
i don't mind people hating superman, i never have. people are free to hate whoever they want to hate.
its just when hating turns into the desire to belittle a character every single time they come up in a debate...
i don't like wolverine, or superman prime, or dozens of other characters, but i'm not going to go into threads and try to make them look bad because of it...
Originally posted by carver9
[B]Every character that you have named is overrated also. People say that spiderman cant be touched due to his spider sense but we have a lot of on panel proof that show people in wolverine caliber being able to hit him.
so do you think everyone is overrated?
How can you overrate the xmen? 😕
storm, magneto, iceman... all have been hyped up before...
Everyone that you name has been argued against, its not just superman, superman, wonder woman, martian manhunter, silver surfer, all have a lot of people coming in there battle saying that they could punch someone a million times before they blink but there isnt any on panel proof showing that they could even think that fast, let alone move that fast.
even when there is, you discard it.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I do have one interpretation. Ill explain in in detail.One one end we have Superman showing he is physically superior to WW. It shows she cant trade blows with him even for a moment. She relies on her stealth,sneaking up behind him,and using animals to provide her the time needed to escape. So,we know she cant stand and trade blows with him.
On the other side of this Superman didnt ko her. He got in some shots as well against a weaker character who held back while he was sunamped. So,while he proved he is just physically beyond her he underperformed up to his abilities imo. With all the circumstances and his demeanor he should have beaten her and she shouldnt have been able to escape.
I am officially not bothering anymore lol. "Couldn't trade blows with him even for a moment." It truly is a spectacle watching you ignore whole parts of this fight and twist it to mean whatever you like.
I'm with fangirl on this one. "WOW" will suffice.