Superman/Green Lantern(Hal)/Orion vs Thor/Sentry/WWH

Started by carver911 pages
superman doesn't just have more feats, he has more high end feats. his high end feats trump almost anyones, even sentry.

I agree, he does have more high end feats but you dont base everything off of high end, you base it off of the normal and sentrys normal portray him as being above top tiers since he basically walks through them.

it isn't quantity we're talking about here, it's quality, and superman has feats on par with almost anyone, even post crisis.

I know its not quantity but you have to think about it like this is it within there power to do the things that they do because of there popularity because if we go by showings knowing that its not within the heros power then we basically have to say that spiderman is above top tier and basically herald level since he stalemated and fought surfer, defeated firelord, took on the entire xmen and thrashed them, fought the entire avengers that including thor and vision and dominated them, defeated the hulk, thing, hell spiderman even went to dc and stomped some of there strongest top tiers. So I guess spiderman is above street level, no, he's just a popular character with 5 or 6 comics and is basically going to beat almost anyone that comes his way to sell comics.

pick a dozen high end feats that sentry has, and i'm pretty sure a dozen superman feats will beat them.

I can pick 2 of superman feats that would make thanos look like a child but again thanos would crush superman. If you match supermans powerset to thanos then superman shouldnt stand a chance. Sometimes you have to look outside of the box.

darkseid would probably take surfer, imo.

But surfer has more feats and more powerful and better feats. 😕

sentry has to prove he can hang with superman, imo. he hasn't done that yet. superman has fought imperiex, darkseid, green lanterns, dominus, doomsday, brainiac, the list goes on.

Sentry has proven to me that he could beat thor, superman, and surfer but thats my opinion. Hell a sentry clone (void) attacked earth and it took almost every hero in marvel to take him down. Lets not forget that void=sentry.

you can make the argument that sentry hasn't been around and hasn't had the number of appearences, but even when he has, what has he done that's so special that superman wouldn't be capable of? very little if anything i'd imagine...

This is something that I dont agree with, I think that the small showings that he has proved a lot to me and it proved that he above top tier.

and please, i'm asking you nicely, take off that avatar.

Yes, I will remove it but I just want to say that I dont say the things that I say to make you mad or anyone else in her mad. When I say something I always ask for proof and superman isnt the only one that I say what I say about. I'll try to do it tonight. 🙂

Originally posted by carver9
I agree, he does have more high end feats but you dont base everything off of high end, you base it off of the normal and sentrys normal portray him as being above top tiers since he basically walks through them.

and you don't think superman's do?

I know its not quantity but you have to think about it like this is it within there power to do the things that they do because of there popularity because if we go by showings knowing that its not within the heros power then we basically have to say that spiderman is above top tier and basically herald level since he stalemated and fought surfer, defeated firelord, took on the entire xmen and thrashed them, fought the entire avengers that including thor and vision and dominated them, defeated the hulk, thing, hell spiderman even went to dc and stomped some of there strongest top tiers. So I guess spiderman is above street level, no, he's just a popular character with 5 or 6 comics and is basically going to beat almost anyone that comes his way to sell comics.

I can pick 2 of superman feats that would make thanos look like a child but again thanos would crush superman. If you match supermans powerset to thanos then superman shouldnt stand a chance. Sometimes you have to look outside of the box.

this whole 'outside the box' thing... i honestly don't see what you're getting at...

But surfer has more feats and more powerful and better feats. 😕

i disagree... i think darkseid has better high end feats, and even his normal feats are above that of normal surfer, imo...

Sentry has proven to me that he could beat thor, superman, and surfer but thats my opinion. Hell a sentry clone (void) attacked earth and it took almost every hero in marvel to take him down. Lets not forget that void=sentry.

void=sentry now? even though sentry pissed his pants at the thought of him?

This is something that I dont agree with, I think that the small showings that he has proved a lot to me and it proved that he above top tier.

i disagree...

Yes, I will remove it but I just want to say that I dont say the things that I say to make you mad or anyone else in her mad. When I say something I always ask for proof and superman isnt the only one that I say what I say about. I'll try to do it tonight. 🙂

one thing i have to say, is this...

you say that so many characters are overrated, that people bump up people far too much, yet in the same posts you talk about how wonderful and powerful the sentry is...

do you not see how that might look to people?

and you don't think superman's do?

Yes, I do think that superman is above top tier because he has proven that but I honestly think that sentry is stronger then supes, surfer, and thor,

this whole 'outside the box' thing... i honestly don't see what you're getting at...

Outside the box is basically saying basing things off of the characters powers and abilities. Example, even though hulk feats>>>>juggernaut we still know that juggernaut could get a majority over hulk. Or we could say, hulk feats>>>doomsday but doomsday could beat the hulk.

i disagree... i think darkseid has better high end feats, and even his normal feats are above that of normal surfer, imo...

Surfer feat vs t&a alone>almost any darkseid feat.

you say that so many characters are overrated, that people bump up people far too much, yet in the same posts you talk about how wonderful and powerful the sentry is...

Not so many, it seem like just the popular ones but I know one thing that people have been saying about sentry, is that he can go light speed when he has yet to prove that.

Originally posted by carver9
Yes, I do think that superman is above top tier because he has proven that but I honestly think that sentry is stronger then supes, surfer, and thor,

Outside the box is basically saying basing things off of the characters powers and abilities. Example, even though hulk feats>>>>juggernaut we still know that juggernaut could get a majority over hulk. Or we could say, hulk feats>>>doomsday but doomsday could beat the hulk.

Surfer feat vs t&a alone>almost any darkseid feat.

Not so many, it seem like just the popular ones but I know one thing that people have been saying about sentry, is that he can go light speed when he has yet to prove that.


When the Surfer can actually make a multiversal being howl in pain, then he'll have a feat worthy of Darksied.

Originally posted by fangirl101
When the Surfer can actually make a multiversal being howl in pain, then he'll have a feat worthy of Darksied.

How do you know if surfer cant conjure up enough power to make a multiversal being howl in pain. Surfer has done everything else. 😕

Originally posted by carver9
How do you know if surfer cant conjure up enough power to make a multiversal being howl in pain. Surfer has done everything else. 😕
Becuz he hasn't. that is the WORST debating I've seen from you yet. How do I know the Surfer can't beat the LT. According to you he's done everything else. He sure as hell couldn't hurt Odin. You are back on ignore.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Becuz he hasn't. that is the WORST debating I've seen from you yet. How do I know the Surfer can't beat the LT. According to you he's done everything else. He sure as hell couldn't hurt Odin. You are back on ignore.

You cant say that surfer cant hurt certain beings when a upgraded surfer hurt some of the most powerful beings in marvel u, t&a. You do realize that both of them were equal to galactus.

By the way stop bringing up surfer and odin when that was a surfer that is nowhere near as powerful as he currently is.

The power cosmic has no limits and surfer has hurt some of the most powerful beings and has done some of the most amazing things in marvel u.

Originally posted by carver9
Yes, I do think that superman is above top tier because he has proven that but I honestly think that sentry is stronger then supes, surfer, and thor,

do you have any proof of feats that beat superman's? sentry hasn't, imo, shown nearly enough strength to prove he can even compete with superman (or thor for that matter) never mind surpass him...

Outside the box is basically saying basing things off of the characters powers and abilities. Example, even though hulk feats>>>>juggernaut we still know that juggernaut could get a majority over hulk. Or we could say, hulk feats>>>doomsday but doomsday could beat the hulk.

you think that just because superman has more feats, he's discluded from such arguments?

Surfer feat vs t&a alone>almost any darkseid feat.

you can't be serious. he manipulated a wave of energy that would otherwise kill him... he would never beat them straight up...

Not so many, it seem like just the popular ones but I know one thing that people have been saying about sentry, is that he can go light speed when he has yet to prove that.

i wouldn't be surprised if he could, as given marvel's attitude towards him, he's bound to do it at some point...

Team one easily. Hulk and Sentry are the weak links easily.

do you have any proof of feats that beat superman's? sentry hasn't, imo, shown nearly enough strength to prove he can even compete with superman (or thor for that matter) never mind surpass him...

Yeah, I have plenty of proof. People that superman,thor, and surfer would have a hard time against, sentry walks through them with ease.

You also stated that sentry is scared of the void, you do know why he's scared of the void right, its not because the void is more powerful. 😕

Sentry is the void, reed AND tony even said that if sentry got out of control there wouldnt be any force on the planet that could stop him.

Now if you just add up all the other things that he can do like teleport, telepath, release uncontrollable amount of energy, shoot blinding light (something like the solar flare) along with his already physical attributes then you basically have a uber being.

you think that just because superman has more feats, he's discluded from such arguments?

I never said that but you keep bringing up he has more feats; of course hes going to have more feats, the guy been out since the 30's. Spiderman has feats that bob doesnt have like stalemated surfer and defeating firelord and owning thor that included the avengers, does that make spiderman>sentry. 😮

you can't be serious. he manipulated a wave of energy that would otherwise kill him... he would never beat them straight up...

Im very serious. Even though he manipulated the crunch, he did it with his own power and will and it gave him a win over two of marvels most powerful beings. You just did the same thing with superman, superman didnt defeat imperex under his own power unless you forgot the part where his entire body was blue when he bullrushed imperex. Why do you get mad when I add a plot to surfer but its ok for you to add one. 🙂

i wouldn't be surprised if he could, as given marvel's attitude towards him, he's bound to do it at some point...

You do know that in comics, going light speed is a huge feat. I think that its a selective few that could do this. Hell it is stated that flash is the fastest character in his universe and in order for any of the flashes to access the speed force they have to go the speed of light and this is the flash and I consider flash to be faster then bob. Almost every flash feat that goes above the speed of light had a plot to it (speed steal or borrow). Again the speed of light is a privelage and I dont see bob having that, there is to much on panel proof contradicting that and other top tiers being able to go light speed.

Sentry soloes team 1. Power of a million exploding suns ftw.

Originally posted by Antiphon
Sentry soloes team 1. Power of a million exploding suns ftw.

Then how come he couldn't beat Hulk who got pwned by a satelite. LMAO. Sentry would likely bolster Superman's own power.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Then how come he couldn't beat Hulk who got pwned by a satelite. LMAO. Sentry would likely bolster Superman's own power.

Sentry would do no such thing. Sentry's power is about a million times that of Superman.

Superman = one sun
Sentry = one million exploding suns.

Originally posted by Antiphon
Sentry would do no such thing. Sentry's power is about a million times that of Superman.

Superman = one sun
Sentry = one million exploding suns.


No. Sentry had trouble catching the Shield Helicarrier. Please stop. Please. Sentry has no feats. his millions suns didn't help him against Hulk. Who had trouble with Juggernaut.

Originally posted by Antiphon
Sentry would do no such thing. Sentry's power is about a million times that of Superman.

Superman = one sun
Sentry = one million exploding suns.

😆

Originally posted by Antiphon
Sentry would do no such thing. Sentry's power is about a million times that of Superman.

Superman = one sun
Sentry = one million exploding suns.

Originally posted by Avlon
Superman absorbs and returns the blasts of Evilstar...who is powered by 1 million suns. 🙂

🙂

Originally posted by Antiphon
Sentry would do no such thing. Sentry's power is about a million times that of Superman.
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Hope your not serious ❌

Originally posted by fangirl101
Then how come he couldn't beat Hulk who got pwned by a satelite. LMAO. Sentry would likely bolster Superman's own power.

Im sorry to say this fan girl but you say some of the most wackiest things that I have ever seen on here. Using a satellite, did you even read the comic, do you know what kind of satellite it was that affected hulk.

Originally posted by Antiphon
Sentry soloes team 1. Power of a million exploding suns ftw.

Sentry aint soloing sh**.

Originally posted by Avlon
🙂

Avy, thats gotta be the post of the year. Im dead ass serious.:clap: