Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlYes it happened in the past but come on man. You always try to make excuses for his losses. Face it he loses and in the past ten years has looked very bad overall compared to his past.
NO excuse. Or don't you realize Superman BATMAN is happening in the past. AS in NOT CURRENT. Hell Orion's wife is even the first one to die. YOu fail.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Uh he does exaggerate Ds. I know what you are saying and how its a very high showing for the character who just beat him but its happened to much to write it off to pis.I remember the way the forum first viewed Superman to Ds in general and now it has been stated that he is Ds's rival much to the chagrin of many posters in here that thought it was utter bullshit. Ds is very powerful but nowhere near as powerful as nver makes him out to be.
I mean the guy gives Ds a win over Odin.
I don't think DS really has that many supporters here. Just that those who do fall in that category are very loud posters.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Im sure Ds is far from fukcing with everyone but one on one he isnt the monster in combat you make him out to be. It looks like Marvel kinda just showed you that.
Originally posted by Bransolute
Well, it's the same Darkseid that nvr likes to use, that punked Eclipso. 🙂
That happened in a different Countdown ie.Countdown to Mystery
Originally posted by Val
Countdown is the most up to date book in the DCU. It's pretty safe to say he has them.
Definetly is as we first see Kyle after he lost Ion in Countdown, but my question is where does Superman/Batman fit into the contunity bracket. Is it in the past? present? *shrugs*
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlhysterical
He is actually smiling at her you dimwit. He even calls her a whelp. HE sure wasn't trying to kill or injure someone who he want's to be his sorcerer. Get a clue. And it's obvious that Countdown isn't up to date. Look at his costume. Now look at His costume in TDONG as well as the constant ALE circling his body.
So... much... wrong...
Originally posted by King_MungiYa but, it happened after Countdown to Mystery...
That happened in a different Countdown ie.Countdown to Mystery
Originally posted by Bransolute
Ya but, it happened after Countdown to Mystery...
I know, hence why Eclipso is getting Mary to be DS's magical assistant. However, where does all this fit chronological with everything? *shrugs*
He never tried his OE on Eclipso, just used brute strength so do we know his OE was at full power even then? Could have been at full power I just don't know. Just being the devils advocate
Originally posted by ValIt's not... however, in nvr's eyes, it's akin to beating Odin or something of the sorts.
Beating Eclipso isn't all that special. I'm not sure why it's sold as a high feat.
Originally posted by King_MungiWell, it happens after New Gods it seems, and everything else...
I know, hence why Eclipso is getting Mary to be DS's magical assistant. However, where does all this fit chronological with everything? *shrugs*He never tried his OE on Eclipso, just used brute strength so do we know his OE was at full power even then? Could have been at full power I just don't know. Just being the devils advocate
I don't know, I don't care. All I know is that he was effected by Mary's magic.
The time lines most def are not all current. We do know that Superman Batman has already happened, And that the sinestro corps war has already happened according to countdown and TDOTNG. But what we dont' know is how they relate to each other. DS is still being portrayed differently in Countdown than in TDOTNG. I think there are some editorial consistancies going on.
Originally posted by Bransolute
It seems like it's happening in relation to 'Death of The New Gods', or a little after.Not the series in full, but the current comic.
Very well could be, I have my doubts but hopefully we get some form of linear time of what's going on. Just so we know where to place all this.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlWow so becuz he insults her and acted like she was nothing that means he's above her. No it doesnt. Darkseid's dumbass little lackey Desaad messed it up but she was definitely holding her own against him. 😄
He is actually smiling at her you dimwit. He even calls her a whelp. HE sure wasn't trying to kill or injure someone who he want's to be his sorcerer. Get a clue. And it's obvious that Countdown isn't up to date. Look at his costume. Now look at His costume in TDONG as well as the constant ALE circling his body.
Originally posted by ValThe Ds posters that are on here are kinda delusional though. Ds is on Thanos level. But Thanos would beat him.
I don't write it off as PIS. Darkseid is Thanos level if you ask me. Above him in some areas and below in others.I don't think DS really has that many supporters here. Just that those who do fall in that category are very loud posters.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You overrate Ds and its getting really old. I mean the guy struggles with Superman yet you think hed stand a chance against Surtur. Come on and get serious.
Surtur has had trouble with Thor and been hurt by him. Actually I remember seeing scans where Thor beat Surtur and Ymir, although I forget how he did it so take that with a grain of salt.
Surtur wins about 7/10 I think. Maybe more if he has the (unlit) Twilight Sword like during the Simonson Ragnorak storyline.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Wow so becuz he insults her and acted like she was nothing that means he's above her. No it doesnt. Darkseid's dumbass little lackey Desaad messed it up but she was definitely holding her own against him. 😄
Holding her own? Are you serious? She ran from DS. what does that tell you? He smiles at her as she blocks his blast. he wants her as his sidekick and you think he was going to kill her? Quan. You need to learn how to read what is NOT written.
As for Darkseid/Black Mary:
She blocked his blast, but it's not like he was trying to harm her. Kalibak and Orion have taken Darkseid's blasts with little damage when he was just trying to force them in line, which was his goal here. He even smiled when she blocked it as if to say "good job, kid" or something along those lines. Then he took a blast from her that landed solidly to his back, and responded with a stomp. While calmly saying he admires her spirit no less. After that the fight was interrupted and she took the time to escape.
It's a pretty good showing for her that she could block it even so, but hardly evidence that she's as or more powerful than DS. If anything, it appeared to me that DS looked better because it looked like she was putting more effort into her attack than he did. It was too short to say one way or another though.