Originally posted by UniOmni
Because we've seen how the new and improved Karen stacks up against other top tiers right?
Yeah. You're wasting time comparing Karen to Superman, Black Adam and Thor as if Hercules were in their league. He's not. Not by a long shot. Being strong is all he has.
Power-Girl? No. She isn't. Can she give them a run for their money for a couple of minutes? Absolutely.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Like i said before, the Kryptostamp is strong on KMC.And what will a bloodlusted PG be like, anyways?
We haven't seen her speedblitz, and we haven't seen her do anything notable with hv or icebreath.
She's like superboy, but without the tk?
Once again, you attempt subvert KMC rules. You claim to not like it but you continue to troll here with the intent of somehow imprinting SuperHeroChat rules that noone here will follow or listen to for that matter.
It's rather pathetic.
Anyhoo, it doesn't change the fact that she HAS it. Her Kryptonian heritage makes it so.
You're making a poor strawman argument that if Power-Girl hasn't shown enough of her HV and Frostbreath or superspeed, it must not exist thus you attempt to paint her as a DC Rogue....
Originally posted by UniOmni
Hmm.I've gotta go through my JSA backlog then.
Still, nothing you've posted tells me she'd beat Hercules.
That's because you're stubborn and rather thick.
Hercules' ONLY possible advantage is strength.
That's it.
Powergirl may be weaker than him in strength. But she has a crapload of other powers to make up for it.
What's Hercules gonna do if Powergirl flies around the guy pelting him with HV and freezing the ground with frost-breath?
His only option would be to super-jump aimlessly at a fast moving airborne target or throw debris at her which would be dodged, caught, or incinerated.
Originally posted by Draco69
Yeah. You're wasting time comparing Karen to Superman, Black Adam and Thor as if Hercules were in their league. He's not. Not by a long shot. Being strong is all he has.Power-Girl? No. She isn't. Can she give them a run for their money for a couple of minutes? Absolutely.
Once again, you attempt subvert KMC rules. You claim to not like it but you continue to troll here with the intent of somehow imprinting SuperHeroChat rules that noone here will follow or listen to for that matter.
It's rather pathetic.
Anyhoo, it doesn't change the fact that she HAS it. Her Kryptonian heritage makes it so.
You're making a poor strawman argument that if Power-Girl hasn't shown enough of her HV and Frostbreath or superspeed, it must not exist thus you attempt to paint her as a DC Rogue....
No.
I don't attribute abilities to characters who haven't shown said ability.
Simple as that.
Bloodlusted on the kmc rule faq says fighting to the best of their abilites.
If they haven't shown it, why would i believe it part of their ability?
Her kryptostamp amounts to nill, when other kryptonians haven't shown the ability.
Can she do a highspeed tackle?
Sure.
Can she drop several punches in the space of a second? Not going by her on panel showings.
And she had hv and icebreath, sure.
I just haven't seen anything from it, that says it'd amount to much here.
Could she likely kill Spiderman with it? Sure.
Hercules? Nothing shown suggest that'd be the case.
Originally posted by UniOmni
No.I don't attribute abilities to characters who haven't shown said ability.
Simple as that.
A) She's shown it.
B) She's Kryptonian.
You're saying she DOESN'T have HV and Frost Breath?
Oh lordy....
Originally posted by UniOmni
Bloodlusted on the kmc rule faq says fighting to the best of their abilites.
A rule you again try to misinterpret or bend. She's fighting to the best of her abilities.
And her abilities include....
Yeah, you guessed it.
Originally posted by UniOmni
If they haven't shown it, why would i believe it part of their ability?
A) She's a KRYPTONIAN.
B) She's already done so.
C)
Note that this was the first manifestation of her HV a few years back. And it knocks Black Adam outta the picture....
Originally posted by UniOmni
Her kryptostamp amounts to nill, when other kryptonians haven't shown the ability.
Like who? Superboy? He isn't even full Kryptonian?
Your arguement is the most pathetic, I've heard in a while.
Just because she's Kryptonian and exact duplicate of Supergirl to the point they share the exact genetic code, she doesn't have HV or Frostbreath?
What's next? Just because, Impulse is connected the Speed Force doesn't mean he has superspeed.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Can she do a highspeed tackle?Sure.
Can she drop several punches in the space of a second? Not going by her on panel showings.
Ah, yes. This your SHC logic again. If the exact replication of a suggested act doesn't happen on panel, it doesn't fit.
This argument would work on SHC.
But it doesn't work here on KMC.
Nice try, Waffles!
And she had hv and icebreath, sure.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Hercules? Nothing shown suggest that'd be the case.
Let's try ANOTHER way.
How can Hercules beat Power-Girl?
You're throughly and stupidly convinced that Power-Girl will ignore nearly 3/4s of her powerset.
So how exactly does Hercules catch Power-Girl when she's zooming around the air?
Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Stop bitching already.You have an inferiority complex because you got owned by SHC members.
We get it
Uh. No. You're off the mark, and you're possibly voicing your own insecurities.
The mere fact that you attest to SHC's superiority kinda shows that you don't have much to be proud of and don't belong to anything significant. Thus you brand yourself with a SHC badge to proxy for a social life. Hey, as long as you belong to something special, right?
I suggest Dr. Phil. I hear he can work wonders with people like you.
Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
And I was speaking in a physical fight.It doesn't take Reed Richards to see that since Hercules doesn't have that power and is equal to Thor only in physical things.
In physical slugfest? No, she can't take Thor down likely?
Thor and Hercules are physically equal to each other in strength. But in terms of durability, reaction times and overall power, no Hercules is several pegs below.
Originally posted by Draco69
A) She's shown it.B) She's Kryptonian.
You're saying she DOESN'T have HV and Frost Breath?
Oh lordy....
A rule you again try to misinterpret or bend. She's fighting to the best of her abilities.
And her abilities include....
Yeah, you guessed it.
A) She's a KRYPTONIAN.
B) She's already done so.
C)
Note that this was the first manifestation of her HV a few years back. And it knocks Black Adam outta the picture....
Like who? Superboy? He isn't even full Kryptonian?
Your arguement is the most pathetic, I've heard in a while.
Just because she's Kryptonian and exact duplicate of Supergirl to the point they share the exact genetic code, she doesn't have HV or Frostbreath?
What's next? Just because, Impulse is connected the Speed Force doesn't mean he has superspeed.
Ah, yes. This your SHC logic again. If the exact replication of a suggested act doesn't happen on panel, it doesn't fit.
This argument would work on SHC.
But it doesn't work here on KMC.
Nice try, Waffles!
And she had hv and icebreath, sure.
Let's try ANOTHER way.
How can Hercules beat Power-Girl?
You're throughly and stupidly convinced that Power-Girl will ignore nearly 3/4s of her powerset.
So how exactly does Hercules catch Power-Girl when she's zooming around the air?
WTF is your problem?
I never said she didn't have hv or icebreath.
In fact, i said she has both.
I've just never seen anything from her using them to suggest they'd be anything other than an irritant to Herc.
Hercules can beat PG, when she comes in to punch him out, and he grabs her and kos her inconsistent ass.
Cuz her icebreath and hv haven't been portrayed as formidable, at all.
Uh. No. You're off the mark, and you're possibly voicing your own insecurities.
Nope
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=440160&pagenumber=8
Originally posted by UniOmni
WTF is your problem?
Nothing, Waffles.
I'm just a mite confused.
Originally posted by UniOmni
I never said she didn't have hv or icebreath.
You stated she didn't have the abilities. And than you rescinded that statement.
But overall you've implied it might as well not exist since she doesn't have 'enough' feats.
Originally posted by UniOmni
I've just never seen anything from her using them to suggest they'd be anything other than an irritant to Herc.
It wasn't for Supergirl. Or Superman. Or Black Adam.
HV that can disnergrate raw matter and frost breath that can freeze Hercules in his traps aren't an irritant.
They're an advantage. Along with flight and superspeed which you convinently ignore.
Yeppers, let's just portray her as a flying She-Hulk....
Originally posted by UniOmni
Hercules can beat PG, when she comes in to punch him out, and he grabs her and kos her inconsistent ass.
Oh yes, let's just ignore her super-fast reactions and flightspeed.
Waffles....
Originally posted by UniOmni
Cuz her icebreath and hv haven't been portrayed as formidable, at all.
Again, whether it be an irritant or harmful. It's an advantage. Having your skin fried with HV or the ground turned into a skating arena won't help Hercules but it will certainly help Power Girl
Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Nopehttp://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=440160&pagenumber=8
The fact that you have a memory of that thread, much less the ability to track down the said thread with KMC's horrible search function is quite stunning.
I mean, do you NOT have a life?
Dear lord, don't tell me you bookmarked the page as some sort of ammunition or something...
Cause that would be just sad.
Anyhoo, my views have changed.
But your presence isn't helping.
A suggestion: Tomorrow or today depending on the timezone you live in, is Friday.
Go out. Try to make friends. Drink. Dance. Live a little.
Cause if I see a post at 10:30pm on a Friday night from you, I may just cry.
Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Nopehttp://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=440160&pagenumber=8
Good Lord. Ignore the last post.
According to your posting history, you're active all night on Fridays and Saturdays.
*sigh*
You're still young though. You still have time for fun.
Unless you're like thirty....
😕
Originally posted by Draco69
Nothing, Waffles.I'm just a mite confused.
You stated she didn't have the abilities. And than you rescinded that statement.
But overall you've implied it might as well not exist since she doesn't have 'enough' feats.
It wasn't for Supergirl. Or Superman. Or Black Adam.
HV that can disnergrate raw matter and frost breath that can freeze Hercules in his traps aren't an irritant.
They're an advantage. Along with flight and superspeed which you convinently ignore.
Yeppers, let's just portray her as a flying She-Hulk....
Oh yes, let's just ignore her super-fast reactions and flightspeed.
Waffles....
Again, whether it be an irritant or harmful. It's an advantage. Having your skin fried with HV or the ground turned into a skating arena won't help Hercules but it will certainly help Power Girl
Reading comprehension for the loss.
I never said PG didn't have icebreath or hv.
I said she never displayed the speedblitz capabilities, ie dropping multiple punches in the space of a second.
What i said about her hv and icebreath, is that i've never seen it portrayed as powerful enough to be anything more than an irritant to Herc.
And we both know when she sees her long range attacks amounting to nil, she's gonna come in close to bash him.
And you've proved my point with hv.
Superman not trying to hurt her, is singed by her hv.
Adam, fighting her in Kahndaq(sp?) is surprised, since nobody knew she even had hv to begin with.
These people are surprised, and irritated by hv.
They are not stopped by hv from Karen tho, and that is my entire point.
Nothing more than an irritant.
Herc is significantly stronger than her, and more durable.
She can and will tackle him at high speed.
But that's not gonna stop him.
And for the most part, she is a flying shulkie.
Around as strong, but with more speed and heightened senses.
Right now, you're arguing for her case solely based on the fact that she's a kryptonian, disregarding the fact that she's a halved kryptonian.