Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Maybe you are suggesting Lobo is as durable as Thor? Because Herc and Thor are about the same in all physical aspects.
I would say Lobo is more durable than Thor. 🙂
Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Hyperion can hit with the power of billions of nukes.
Hyperbole, unless you can actually show me a scan of one of Hyperion's punches doing more damage than this:
http://img361.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lobo2620survivesnukes20qb.jpg
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You actually thought you put me in a hole. You must want my hole. Talking about Warm and cosy. and it is. but you aren't worthy of it. And for the record, you are less then nothing to me. As a matter of fact, I hadn't even thought about you. I didn't even remember who you were when I gave him the pwnage thumbs up. That tells you that I just don't think you are worth remembering LMAO. By the way, who are you again? 😆 😆 😆
As a matter of fact rigth now typing to make you feel better seems the only resort.
Its a matter of time you start tripping stairs on yourself.
"o-o-oh deaar, he scares me!"
Originally posted by Badabing
Whatever floats your boat. 😂
Conception accepted.
Originally posted by Badabing
ASSumptions about my comic reading just makes an ASS out of you. Lets FF to 2007. Herc got lumped by 3 Hulk pimp slaps. 😱
Its what happens when you stop figthing back. Not that you will have the guts to admit it since i doubt you actually read it.
That beats being punched into orbit by one shot and getting your wrists broken while figthing back like two other certain characters.
Originally posted by Badabing
What's a writter? 😕 I could care less what a WRITER says as much as shown on panel. You have no proof. You FAIL.
The writer didnt said it, he wrote it. "Avengers" #12 of Busiek`s run, chap.
Perez even drew it for you.
Originally posted by Badabing
Even your attempts at flaming...
Are marvelous. And you bite all of it.
Originally posted by Badabing
Again, you fail to realize that the bricks Superman faces are>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mortal Herc.
You stick your hands on one issue where its written that he stops figthing back to make it a low level, when everyone else figthing back didnt got any better against the Hulk. Not one.
Then if you had any brains, wich you dont, you would know that for example Mongul doesnt have a that damn good of a rep alone. The fact that he had problems with a Post Byrne Superman that was missing solar beach tans should clue you on how high he is not against the recent years of Mortal Herc, even before Civil War. His sonny? Teaches SM some DB second rate jumbo and then gets outclassed.
Of course to also prove my other point rigth and make you look a fool, Superman also had problems with him. Well, some.
Originally posted by Badabing
If you knew anything you'd realize that Doomsday has Lightning fast speed as described by Superman in Hunter/Prey.
Then you agree that flying and HV alone arent worth everything? Im shocked. And even when i know that the HP version would win against pretty much any brick around, you have weaker DD versions and Superman had problems with all of these. Even when using fligth and HV and tech.
I think i know how you will likely answer to this one, so prepare to have your Lobo example of scans refuted.
Originally posted by Badabing
Lobo and Mongul>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mortal Herc in speed, durability, strength, reflexes, etc. OH NO!!!!! More failure.
Lobo couldnt even beat CM.
Maybe its because CM > SM, i guess.
Originally posted by olympianThis is GOLD! crylaugh You're like my own personal clown. durclown
Conception accepted.Its what happens when you stop figthing back. Not that you will have the guts to admit it since i doubt you actually read it.
That beats being punched into orbit by one shot and getting your wrists broken while figthing back like two other certain characters.
The writter didnt said it, he wrote it. "Avengers" #12 of the Busiek run, chap.
What a joke. Its just too easy.
Are marvelous. And you bite all of it.
You stick your hands on one issue where its written that he stops figthing back to make it a low level, when everyone else figthing back didnt got any better against the Hulk. Not one.
Then if you had any brains, wich you dont, you would know that for example Mongul doesnt have a that damn good of a rep alone. The fact that he had problems with a Post Byrne Superman that was missing solar beach tans should clue you on how high he is not against the recent years of Mortal Herc, even before Civil War. Is sonny? Teaches SM some mombo jumbo and then gets outclassed.
Of course to also prove my other point rigth and make you look a fool, Superman also had problems with him. Well, some.
Then you agree that flying and HV alone arent worth everything? Im shocked. And even when i know that the HP version would win against pretty much any brick around, you have weaker DD versions and Superman had problems with all of these. Even when using fligth and HV and tech.
I think i know how you will likley answer to this one, so prepare to have your Lobo example of scans refuted.
Lobo couldnt even beat CM.
Maybe its because CM > SM, i guess.
Your ABC logic is so flawed. Lobo can't beat CM so that means blah blah blah.... CM>>>>Herc, Lobo>>>>Herc, Doomsday>>>>Herc. 😊
You have only proved that you know very little about characters. Power Girl uses heat vision, flight, freeze breath, etc to beat Mortal Herc. You haven't shown one scan or cited one issue to dispute that. Hell, Wolverine BEAT Mortal Herc. 😂
Now, I order you to amuse me again. 😆 💃
Originally posted by olympian
Marvel writters wont even remember about the powerdown unless it suits them for a specific plot point.From the showings hes been having hes closer to Immortal levels than say when he fougth the Onslaugth Hulk a decade ago.
Isn't current Hercules immortal though? Didn't he have to pass some new labors to gain his immortality back, thread starter states that this is Mortal Herc.
Does ANY Herc have good reflex feats?
No, the labours werent to get his immortality back, he never got it on panel in any story so far. Altho some writters simply write him probably that strong again.
Marvel Hercules reflex feats? Tagging Quicksilver who was blitzzing around him comes to mind. But that was as immortal.
The weaker mortal Hercules was dodging bullets when tired, but hes not that low anymore. Besides, what matters when PG and co rarely if ever speedblitz like speedesters?
Originally posted by Badabing
Your ABC logic is so flawed. Lobo can't beat CM so that means blah blah blah.... CM>>>>Herc, Lobo>>>>Herc, Doomsday>>>>Herc
Im using your own logic back at you, chap. Sorry if it bits you back in your ass.
Lobo also lost against Vril Dox 🙂
Originally posted by Badabing
You have only proved that you know very little about characters.
There is a minority around here that knows what they talk about and you arent one of them.
But the tough of it made me chuckle 🙂
Originally posted by Badabing
Power Girl uses heat vision, flight, freeze breath, etc to beat Mortal Herc..
And yet her record post crisis is shit in return. I bet you dont even know all her showings and are only debating this because either you have a drawing breast fetish or because shes just krytonian.
Superman using just freeze breath and fligth couldnt keep WW and others away. When did Freze Breath did anything of wonderful besides smell? Nevermind that, the fact you argue your own version and not the comic one shows you lose.
Originally posted by Badabing
You haven't shown one scan or cited one issue to dispute that. Hell, Wolverine BEAT Mortal Herc. 😂..
Allow me to type it slow for some retard chap: A.V.E.N.G.E.R.S > vol 3 > Busiek run > issue twelllve. If you wer smart you would search on respect threads and see it. But you keep pretending you dont read because your scared shitless.
Wolverine? Why the surprise? He beat Herc the same way he beat Lobo 🙂
Originally posted by olympian
No, the labours werent to get his immortality back, he never got it on panel. ALtho some writters simply write him probably that strong again.Marvel Hercules reflex feats? Tagging Quicksilver who was blitzzing around him comes to mind. But that was as immortal.
The weaker mortal Hercules was dodging bullets when tired, but hes not that low anymore. Besides, what matters when PG and co rarely if ever speedblitz like speedesters?
Ok, thanks. What was the labors for then, though? Does Herc still have the tattoo he got from his Papa to indicate his punishment? What happened after he helped the other Greek gods with the "godly" war?
I only asked about his reflex feats, because couldn't Power Girl just fly really fast towards him and punching him with all her might? Not necessarily Speed Blitzing though.
Btw, The defeat to Wolverine was retconned in Lobo's own series that some "bald dude" paid him to lose the match.
No, the tatoo was never adressed again, thats why there is always this debate where he is Mortal or Immortal. Especially because in the stories after where he was still written that low, he didnt had it anymore. Its a loose plot point.
The labours wer a challenge adressed by an old foe. Nothing else.
About PG, of course she can do that. Why not? But that tactic doesnt make any "dimensional" brick unable to attack back. Why do you think most of this board stick to the rules of using the characters in the way they would want to? Because that way, as shown in comics its never a certain way to win. Mostly because where said bricks lack in versability they bring in spades the ability to take punishment better than most versatible people. PG is getting backed up on this because shes a kriptonian. Pure and simple. When someone gets like 4 major showings in her whole history after the initial crisis, you know you arent that much.
Btw, im aware. Not that it matters much since either example was off panel and voted on popularity.
Simply put, the fact this board uses the excuse of DBZ tactics to win arguments that doesnt happen in comics shows it all. This should be renamed: "Whatevertheheckthenameis version of PG vs comic book Hercules" That way, sure she wins.
Originally posted by olympian
No, the labours werent to get his immortality back, he never got it on panel in any story so far. Altho some writters simply write him probably that strong again.Marvel Hercules reflex feats? Tagging Quicksilver who was blitzzing around him comes to mind. But that was as immortal.
The weaker mortal Hercules was dodging bullets when tired, but hes not that low anymore. Besides, what matters when PG and co rarely if ever speedblitz like speedesters?
Im using your own logic back at you, chap. Sorry if it bits you back in your ass.
Lobo also lost against Vril Dox 🙂
There is a minority around here that knows what they talk about and you arent one of them.
But the tough of it made me chuckle 🙂
And yet her record post crisis is shit in return. I bet you dont even know all her showings and are only debating this because either you have a drawing breast fetish or because shes just krytonian.
Superman using just freeze breath and fligth couldnt keep WW and others away. When did Freze Breath did anything of wonderful besides smell? Nevermind that, the fact you argue your own version and not the comic one shows you lose.
Allow me to type it slow for some retard chap: A.V.E.N.G.E.R.S > vol 3 > Busiek run > issue twelllve. If you wer smart you would search on respect threads and see it. But you keep pretending you dont read because your scared shitless.
Wolverine? Why the surprise? He beat Herc the same way he beat Lobo 🙂
Woah woah. You're using Vril Dox beating Lobo as a low showing? 👇 Dox cheated, he rigged the fight. He shut down Lobo's favorite radio station which was set to play the same song into a transmitter in Lobo's head.
And are you seriously comparing Quicksilver to Power Girl in speed? haermm
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Woah woah. You're using Vril Dox beating Lobo as a low showing? 👇 Dox cheated, he rigged the fight. He shut down Lobo's favorite radio station which was set to play the same song into a transmitter in Lobo's head.haermm
Haha, Lobo is lamer than i remembered.
And why are you crying over anyway? This very thread started with using PG high showings only since her rep is full pf lower ones and use Mortal Herc`s low showings in comparation.
You make the cake and cry when it stinks and have to eat it.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
And are you seriously comparing Quicksilver to Power Girl in speed? haermm
In combat speed? (want to bet you dont know what it is?)
Since you belive to think she hads punch someone millions of times faster than what the top ter bricks can move, show me where she has done the kind. Ever.
Originally posted by Badabing
crylaugh You continue to pwn yourself. The Lobo/Logan fight was a FAN VOTED CROSSOVER, Logan and Herc was not! durlaugh
So Wolverine can beat Hercules off panel when we see anything of it but looks like a runt who gets mocked when he meets him.
Hey, im fine with that.
And lol at Lobo again, needing an "appearant!" retcon to a fan vote figth bangin
Originally posted by batdude123
That's how olympian debates.
Sarcasm has been lost in you a long time ago, hasent it? Of all the dozens in this board who spill crap, you get turned on by just one that somehow draws your attention when mockering fangirls.
I should be flattered, really should 😮💨
Power Girl and Hercules would be a hellacious knock-down, drag-out donnybrook, but I think Power Girl would take the win a slight majority of the time. The thing is that Power Girl is now about as strong and durable as Herc, but she also has pretty potent heat vision, super speed, super senses, and flight. His only advantage is that he’s a better hand-to-hand fighter, but that’s going to be just short of what’s needed to beat a full-fledged Kryptonian most of the time.
A lot of people in this thread doesn’t seem to realize that Power Girl got a power-up during Infinite Crisis. Most of the scans posted here show a weaker version of Power Girl. The current Power Girl has been restored to her full Earth 2 abilities. When the arc to get her to this point started, the (relatively new) Supergirl, who was stated by Batman to be as strong as Superman, got into a fight with Power Girl, who’s powers were on the fritz and going up and down. When Stargirl boosted Supergirl’s strength by channeling solar power at her, Power Girl was still able to match Kara, a Kara who was about as strong as Superman before the boost.
Supergirl did put Power Girl in a full nelson after they both left the shrunken city of Kandor, but they had been there a month and Power Girl had not been exposed to a yellow sun during that time and was weakened. However, Supergirl had been via Ultraman’s solar machine there. Supergirl even tells Power Girl she’s lucky Karen wasn’t at full strength while she’s holding her down. In the latest issue of Brave & the Bold (#7), Power Girl knocks out Wonder Woman with a single punch (though Diana is blindsided). However, when Wonder Woman blindsides Power Girl later, she’s unable to KO her. Currently, Superman, Supergirl, and Power Girl are presented as near equals in raw power, and that’s just a little too much for Hercules.
