Thor vs Darkseid

Started by UniOmni12 pages
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
DS doesn't fight anyone like he fights Superman. You said DS gets beaten by top tiers. Not true. He gets physically beaten 3 out of maybe 10 or so encounters with Superman. Also, Superman is as strong as Thanos. or very close to it. Also Why would DS fight Thanos hand to hand when he could simply absorb all of the power Thanos has within him. HE did just absorb the OE from Desaad while Desaad while powered up by it and the staff of highfather. And DS has already been known to absorb power of god like beings.

Why is Superman nearly as strong as Thanos?

Because you wish it?

He doesn't dominate people in his tier the way Thanos does, so where do you draw these conclusions from?

The way he beats on Uxas?

Originally posted by UniOmni
Why does he need lifting feats if he physically manhandled people in Supermans tier?

Surfer, who punched lunatik to the top of a planet.

Thor, who punched a zombie into space while drastically weakened, no hammer.

Lasted the longest against Tyrant, in a solo fight, when Tyrant had previously badly beaten a team consisting of BRB, Gladiator, Surfer, Jack of Hearts, and Ganymede.

The first three are proven planet busters.

Hulk who has the best strength feats of all.

He punched Captain Marvel from Saturn to Earth.

He always beat Dumb Drax, who ripped apart a Star and shrugged off a punch from Professor Hulk.

Professor Hulk who shook dimensions in his fight with Ironclad at the Crossroads.

You tell me why Superman would be any different, since he's handled people more powerful(Surfer, Thor).

And get this.........his blasts/eyebeams have actually killed people.

He wasted Thor in a time travel arc, leaving him a husk on the ground.

Thanos is stronger than Superman.

Why?

Cuz he beats on people in Supermans tier like children.
And he's never lost to anyone in Supermans tier.

You're not a good debater.

No one in the Superman "tier" are as strong as Superman. Not even close if you wanna get technical. And with the exception of surfer, I dont' know if any of them are as durable as Superman. Thanos with no power amping or blast wouldn't be able to beat Superman.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Why is Superman nearly as strong as Thanos?

Because you wish it?

He doesn't dominate people in his tier the way Thanos does, so where do you draw these conclusions from?

The way he beats on Uxas?

You didn't even address the issue that DS would likely just absorb Thanos power into his own. Or just create a boom tube around thanos and send him into the phantom zone. With no tech, Thanos is pretty much stuck.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
No one in the Superman "tier" are as strong as Superman. Not even close if you wanna get technical. And with the exception of surfer, I dont' know if any of them are as durable as Superman. Thanos with no power amping or blast wouldn't be able to beat Superman.

WTF?

This is why people don't like you.

Captain Marvel stalemates an amped Superman in DOV.

He's strong as Superman.

Hulk has strength feats that eclipse Superman.

He's stronger than Superman under some portrayals.

Surfer is as, if not more durable than Superman.

Thanos beat him nearly to death with a few punches.

And wtf power amping do you refer to?

When's the last time you recall Thanos explicitly amping?

He's a freak among Eternals already, and has been powered up a few times.

Thanos with power or blasting wouldn't beat Superman.....

Superman without power wouldn't beat Darkseid.........

Where's the relevance?

GTFO!

Originally posted by UniOmni
WTF?

This is why people don't like you.

Captain Marvel stalemates an amped Superman in DOV.

He's strong as Superman.

Hulk has strength feats that eclipse Superman.

He's stronger than Superman under some portrayals.

Surfer is as, if not more durable than Superman.

Thanos beat him nearly to death with a few punches.

And wtf power amping do you refer to?

When's the last time you recall Thanos explicitly amping?

He's a freak among Eternals already, and has been powered up a few times.

Thanos with power or blasting wouldn't beat Superman.....

Superman without power wouldn't beat Darkseid.........

Where's the relevance?

GTFO!

If people don't like me becuz I have opinions about comic book characters, then they need to seek counseling. That is too much vested emotion in a 2 dimensional character. Surfer doesn't have the strength feats Superman does, and He fights like a bafoon around thanos, so I dont' take Thanos beating surfer with any kind of validity. When Hulk saves the omniverse, let me know, until then, He has no feats that surpass superman. And for the record, Superman would not fight thanos like any of the "top" tiers that Thanos has fought. One more thing, Superman's power keeps growin. How people keep thinking he's in the same tier with Thor and surfer as strength goes down thru the years is just insane.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Why does he need lifting feats if he physically manhandled people in Supermans tier?
Well for one he's never beaten a top tier comparable to Supes. So yeah, I'll take evidens over bullshit. 🙂

Surfer, who punched lunatik to the top of a planet.
Superman can do better....and I hope you agree with that because honestly, if you think differently then your lying to yourself.

Thor, who punched a zombie into space while drastically weakened, no hammer.
Lol at you comparing that to Superman's strength feats....Superman has punched Bizarro through the earth's surface to china from Metropolis. I think it's alot more impressive seeing how Bizarro>>>>>random Zombie.

Lasted the longest against Tyrant, in a solo fight, when Tyrant had previously badly beaten a team consisting of BRB, Gladiator, Surfer, Jack of Hearts, and Ganymede.
Lmao, this isn't about whose overall powerful. That feats irrelevent because he used more than just physical strength. Who cares if he can stand up to beings with all his powers. Black bolt can Ko bricks, but does that account to his physical strength?

The first three are proven planet busters.
Planets they busted with the power cosmic and magic....irrelevent...

Hulk who has the best strength feats of all.

He punched Captain Marvel from Saturn to Earth.

He always beat Dumb Drax, who ripped apart a Star and shrugged off a punch from Professor Hulk.

Professor Hulk who shook dimensions in his fight with Ironclad at the Crossroads.

Thanos defeated those character's with more than strength...remember the Black bolt example?

You tell me why Superman would be any different, since he's handled people more powerful(Surfer, Thor).

And get this.........his blasts/eyebeams have actually killed people.

He wasted Thor in a time travel arc, leaving him a husk on the ground.

Thanos is stronger than Superman.

Why?

Cuz he beats on people in Supermans tier like children.
And he's never lost to anyone in Supermans tier.

Bad logic, just because I can squat more than a fat guy, doesn't make my arm strength superior. Or just because I can jump higher than someone, doesn't mean I can run faster. You can't say one is superior than another in a certain category, just because he's overall tougher. That's shitty logic at it's finest. 😉

You're not a good debater.
Lmao at you popping out nowhere and judging my debating skills. If you want to here my opinion, I think that your a uptight ass who who spends his time ranting and complaining. I don't impress you, you don't impress me. 🙂

But hey it's just a opinion, so it doesn't mean it's true.

Originally posted by UniOmni
WTF?

This is why people don't like you.

Captain Marvel stalemates an amped Superman in DOV.

He's strong as Superman.

Hulk has strength feats that eclipse Superman.

He's stronger than Superman under some portrayals.

Surfer is as, if not more durable than Superman.

Thanos beat him nearly to death with a few punches.

And wtf power amping do you refer to?

When's the last time you recall Thanos explicitly amping?

He's a freak among Eternals already, and has been powered up a few times.

Thanos with power or blasting wouldn't beat Superman.....

Superman without power wouldn't beat Darkseid.........

Where's the relevance?

GTFO!

i agree 100%

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Lol at you comparing that to Superman's strength feats....Superman has punched Bizarro through the earth's surface to china from Metropolis. I think it's alot more impressive seeing how Bizarro>>>>>random Zombie.
Actually... that 'Viking' would destroy Bizarro... Superman, Dr Strange, etc.

However... Thor had the power of the Runes when he did that as well...

Although, it is funny how you know nothing about Harald, but you're willing to say he's way below Bizarro... heh.

Originally posted by Bransolute
Actually... that 'Viking' would destroy Bizarro... Superman, Dr Strange, etc.

However... Thor had the power of the Runes when he did that as well...

Although, it is funny how you know nothing about Harald, but you're willing to say he's way below Bizarro... heh.

He said Zombie, so don't get upset with me because I wasn't sure about what he was talking about....

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
He said Zombie, so don't get upset with me because I wasn't sure about what he was talking about....
Well, the only person Thor has punched into orbit is Harald. He could also be a zombie... as well.

Either way, it's painfully obvious both of you haven't read the series (or Uni has, and he's trying to play up Thor's feats).

I'm also not getting mad, just finding it funny how you judged him, and you don't know who he is...

Originally posted by Bransolute
Well, the only person Thor has punched into orbit is Harald. He could also be a zombie... as well.

Either way, it's painfully obvious both of you haven't read the series (or Uni has, and he's trying to play up Thor's feats).

I'm also not getting mad, just finding it funny how you judged him, and you don't know who he is...

Well geez, I'm not able to recall all of Thors feats because admittedly I'm not well knowledged on him....It's not like those type of things are uncommon or anything.....

And yeah I haven't read it. Most of the time when people use terms such as "A Zombie" I assume it's some kind of canon fodder. Or a "Alien" or some shit like that. So yeah, it's kind of hard know when someone doesn't give out names.

Go Bran go !! 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Blah blah blah, everything you say is misinterpertated bullshit. I hate to say this word, and I'm usually the one against it, but your lying. Ds doesn't consistently lose to Superman or any top tiers. His first loss in Bryne's run on Action comics was retconned into being Desaad and the Superman and Batman one had alot of shit going. Such as the boomtube and the sun amp. Thus those 2 showings are [b]IRRELEVANT. Your left with Acrapolopips now and their second encounter in Action comics. If your going to base a characters performance off two showings that aren't even credible sources, then your just kidding yourself.

We've seen Seid look better in a majority of their confrontations. You can't even prove that Thanos is as strong as Superman, so stop trying to use that crap as evidence. You can't just pick a characters bad moments and use that to say he/she is weak. That's a sign of desperation and shows how far you'll go to prove a point.

And wtf? Do you honestly take that Batkick seriously? I bet you think Spider-man can replicate it. 🙄

[/b] Well you shouldn't criticize at all because you can be worst in all categories. It comes off as distasteful and hypocritical.

And alot of people are so eager to degrade character that they'll find some of the dumbest shit imaginable to prove it. It's just blind hatred so who cares what they think. And you think Seid is a bich(I don't even know wtf that is)? Well when you have a bunch of morons who don't know how to handle a character, it's not his fault he looks like crap. It's just how it is, and that's why I ignore craptastic writing that's an utter disgrace to the character's reputation. But being the way you are, I bet you feel and think the exact opposite.... [/B]

here we go now one of the Ds fans comes to protect Darkseids tattered legacy. How touching.

Im glad you ignore his crappy feats. Thats how most of Ds fanatics handle his pathetic moments. I mean where is this Proof that Ds was drugged? I have never read any proof stating that he was drugged when he fell. Prolly the same kinda of bullshit when I used to hear Jeph loeb was the only writer to give Supes a win over Ds. 😆

Here we go now with your attacking of Thanos even though he crushes top tiers. Hell he didnt even lose to Odin when they fought. he doesnt go down in three panels like ds has done in the past.

A bich is a *****. Ds has really become one. He ran from Superman after he threatened him. Nothing else you can say really other than Ds is quite sad even when he gets his omega powers back.

Everyone outside you and some Ds fanatics who have made thier home here on kmc would try any of this shit elsewhere. ds is mocked in every forum on the net. He is called pussyseid or jobberseid. I used to defend him but no more he ran from superman like some coward right after he got his powers back.

Im glad Ds has the ale and is manipulating characters as I have heard becuz straight up hes nothing special anymore.

Originally posted by UniOmni
How do we know DD is stronger than Superman?
He's got no lifting feats.

How do we know Validus is stronger than Superman?
Not a lift to his name.

Why does Superman get a pass, but nobody else does?

Darkseid gets his ass beat by Thanos, for the simple fact that he's more consistently beaten top tiers.

Darkseid doesn't get to keep being embarassed, and still keep his rep.
No way is that happening.

I don't understand how anyone can say Darkseid would beat Thanos, when Thanos has never been beaten the way Darkseid has.

Darkseid fanboys must have blinders on whenever they read comics nowadays.

Notice i said fanboys, and not fans.

I'm a major fan of the character, but i can see that he's fallen.

Cosigned to the gazillionth power. Really Ds fans this is a wakeup call you cant ignore his embarrassing feats anymore. Ds has become a shadow of what he used to be so please just accept it and lets move on.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
No one in the Superman "tier" are as strong as Superman. Not even close if you wanna get technical. And with the exception of surfer, I dont' know if any of them are as durable as Superman. Thanos with no power amping or blast wouldn't be able to beat Superman.
Here we go I love it. Before you used to agree that Thanos would whip Superman becuz we all know hed crush him. Now since you cant run from the Superma blemishes anymore youll try to hype Superman over Thanos. You really are quite funny how you flipflop. Anyways Thanos crushes Superman or Ds. I think Superman woul dlast longer than Ds nowadays and thats IF HE EVEN STAYED TO FIGHT.

Originally posted by quanchi112
here we go now one of the Ds fans comes to protect Darkseids tattered legacy. How touching.

Im glad you ignore his crappy feats. Thats how most of Ds fanatics handle his pathetic moments. I mean where is this Proof that Ds was drugged? I have never read any proof stating that he was drugged when he fell. Prolly the same kinda of bullshit when I used to hear Jeph loeb was the only writer to give Supes a win over Ds. 😆

Here we go now with your attacking of Thanos even though he crushes top tiers. Hell he didnt even lose to Odin when they fought. he doesnt go down in three panels like ds has done in the past.

A bich is a *****. Ds has really become one. He ran from Superman after he threatened him. Nothing else you can say really other than Ds is quite sad even when he gets his omega powers back.

Everyone outside you and some Ds fanatics who have made thier home here on kmc would try any of this shit elsewhere. ds is mocked in every forum on the net. He is called pussyseid or jobberseid. I used to defend him but no more he ran from superman like some coward right after he got his powers back.

Im glad Ds has the ale and is manipulating characters as I have heard becuz straight up hes nothing special anymore.

Um, You realize that The ale is an upgrade. That is like saying without Death's upgrade Thanos is nothing. It's part of him. That is all. Go back to your regularly scheduled psychotic obsession with Thanos and DS.

Originally posted by Bransolute
Well, the only person Thor has punched into orbit is Harald. He could also be a zombie... as well.

Either way, it's painfully obvious both of you haven't read the series (or Uni has, and he's trying to play up Thor's feats).

I'm also not getting mad, just finding it funny how you judged him, and you don't know who he is...

I remember when starking argued with me for days about foundations only to find out later he hadnt read it but probably saw a few scans. This doesnt surprise me at all. Some people see a few scans and pretend they know the entire story inside and out.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um, You realize that The ale is an upgrade. That is like saying without Death's upgrade Thanos is nothing. It's part of him. That is all. Go back to your regularly scheduled psychotic obsession with Thanos and DS.
No totally different entirely. After Ds gets killed which he needs to be before Batman gets a hold of him again and makes him look oh so pathetic, then he wont have the ale. It wont be touched uppon I bet after his final push. It makes Ds beating characters believeable. Im glad they put it in. Becuz with just his omega powers hes still afraid of Superman and needs the ale to even fight him nowadays i suspect.

😄

Originally posted by quanchi112
No totally different entirely. After Ds gets killed which he needs to be before Batman gets a hold of him again and makes him look oh so pathetic, then he wont have the ale. It wont be touched uppon I bet after his final push. It makes Ds beating characters believeable. Im glad they put it in. Becuz with just his omega powers hes still afraid of Superman and needs the ale to even fight him nowadays i suspect.

😄

As I said, Back to your obsession.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
As I said, Back to your obsession.
I talk about facts while you live in a fantasy world where your favorite characters always win and when they lose its pushed under the rug. Just quit backing Ds and admit hes a pussy.