Debate, this debate is over, Pyron doesnt contend with time powers, he has nothing to resist them, nor does he have anything to defeat or block them.
if all he had was matter manip as an extra ability i dont see why he would not be celestial level, ime curious, do they have souls? saying Pyron is Andromeda size from a background sounds more fanboyish to me
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
You don't even know what a celestial is...yet you claimed Kain one? Lol...How will Nozdormu kill Pyron? I'll give you one hint about the Celestials...their leader is on Big G's power level.
i know some Celestials, and that the one above all (he isnt TOAA) is one of them (their leader i thinkg maybe?) and ive read scathan has bested a foe even LT could not, however you dont need to be the top tier Celestial to be one, whos the weakest of them all and what are his feats i am more interested in
also Nozmordu doesnt have to kill pyron, he could however possibly sned him through a time tunnel before the universe was created, possibly before the big bang, time traveling is his specalty, then Pyron will be blown to pieces as the Big bang happens and his energy dispursed, OR he would just not lose, he wont lose the match so either way it will be a Draw by Noz
Originally posted by Burning thought1. He is the leader. Scathan had gotten power directly from TOAA, and it was a one time thing. The weakest? Hell if I know. I could get some power feats on them, but I am lazy.
i know some Celestials, and that the one above all (he isnt TOAA) is one of them (their leader i thinkg maybe?) and ive read scathan has bested a foe even LT could not, however you dont need to be the top tier Celestial to be one, whos the weakest of them all and what are his feats i am more interested inalso Nozmordu doesnt have to kill pyron, he could however possibly sned him through a time tunnel before the universe was created, possibly before the big bang, time traveling is his specalty, then Pyron will be blown to pieces as the Big bang happens and his energy dispursed, OR he would just not lose, he wont lose the match so either way it will be a Draw by Noz
2. He can warp people thru time? Why doesn't he just do that to Sargeras? Also, the Big Bang doesn't exist in the DSverse.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. He is the leader. Scathan had gotten power directly from TOAA, and it was a one time thing. The weakest? Hell if I know. I could get some power feats on them, but I am lazy.2. He can warp people thru time? Why doesn't he just do that to Sargeras? Also, the Big Bang doesn't exist in the DSverse.
1. ill concede celestial kain anyway since i dont know what their weakest powers are, my evaluation of Kain being celestial because i dont see much in skyfathers so i was thinking of who was the next tier up
its DK who decides what verse this is, if she says its our real life verse then Nozmordu can do it. Why he doesnt do it to Sarg is beyond me, you have to take into account CIS and PIS in all these things, same things could be said why didnt Elune the godess simply stop the battle from happening and stop them all from fighting and things like that, theres tonnes of CIS and PIS in Warcraft i would say since some of the dragons have powers that in certain situations would pwn other enemies
Originally posted by Burning thought
its DK who decides what verse this is, if she says its our real life verse then Nozmordu can do it. Why he doesnt do it to Sarg is beyond me, you have to take into account CIS and PIS in all these things, same things could be said why didnt Elune the godess simply stop the battle from happening and stop them all from fighting and things like that, theres tonnes of CIS and PIS in Warcraft i would say since some of the dragons have powers that in certain situations would pwn other enemies
Nozmordu didn't do anything to Sargeras because he couldn't, Remember Burning Thought that Nozmordus power is a gift from a Titan the highfather to be preciese and it is true that he certainly have given him great control over time, but against a being such as Sargares the brother to Highfather and there elected Champion infused with Demonic power he wouldn't have any success IMO. neither would he against Archimonde ore Kil'Jaeden because both of them can Command time with the Paramount spells to some extent (will just find out how much). But against Pyron... Pyron who doesn't have any Time control power therefore Nozmordu will win.
On another note Pyron goes down at 3 ore 4
hmm yes possibly true, he probablly cannot effect Titans and beings who have protecton, although i cannot remember any stated protection so i cannot bring it up, although it probably makes sense he cannot effect a Titan who is brother of the being who gave him the tiny portion of his power, so i belive myself that aspects would not effect those who have many many times their power already. And great knowledge on the time powers.
Originally posted by Burning thought
hmm yes possibly true, he probablly cannot effect Titans and beings who have protecton, although i cannot remember any stated protection so i cannot bring it up, although it probably makes sense he cannot effect a Titan who is brother of the being who gave him the tiny portion of his power, so i belive myself that aspects would not effect those who have many many times their power already. And great knowledge on the time powers.
Exactly as you stated yourself it was but a tiny fraction of Highfathers powers.
And some beings have Protection against time based attacks cannot remember the exact details but will try and find some information on them, but I'm certain that the Titans is near invulnerable to time based attacks and the Eredar to some extent also.
Thanks.
Originally posted by UtrigitaI don't know a whole lot about Malygnos, but Nelly is not taking down Pyron.
Nozmordu didn't do anything to Sargeras because he couldn't, Remember Burning Thought that Nozmordus power is a gift from a Titan the highfather to be preciese and it is true that he certainly have given him great control over time, but against a being such as Sargares the brother to Highfather and there elected Champion infused with Demonic power he wouldn't have any success IMO. neither would he against Archimonde ore Kil'Jaeden because both of them can Command time with the Paramount spells to some extent (will just find out how much). But against Pyron... Pyron who doesn't have any Time control power therefore Nozmordu will win.On another note Pyron goes down at 3 ore 4
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
I don't know a whole lot about Malygnos, but Nelly is not taking down Pyron.
Malygos is like the point of all magic in Azeroth, the warcraft planet (i mite have this wrong, i may be talking about a continent but woops anyway 😉 ) so basically he has every spell in warcraft
Originally posted by Burning thought
Malygos is like the point of all magic in Azeroth, the warcraft planet (i mite have this wrong, i may be talking about a continent but woops anyway 😉 ) so basically he has every spell in warcraft
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with the exception that Magic come from the twisted nether and is corrupting by natur, but Malygos command every spell that exist on Azeroth.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Don't ask me, I'm not the thread starter. Even OVA Pyron at 20% is much faster than any opponent here.
Yes but that isn't going to help him if he cannot get to the target now is it.
And he most certainly wouldn't be capable of getting within range of Nelly which has completely control of the earth and has showen ability to bury himself beneath the earth. Setting up walls of earth around himself.
So the air is The best friend Pyron got in a battle against Nelly.
Originally posted by Burning thoughtSlow as a snail? Also, how does slow work, does it just happen, or does it have to hit, and btw, Pyron can easily shield yourself.
woooo speed means everything, he wont be the fastest when Malygos casts slow on him, then he becomes as slow as a snail.....then hes at Malygos mercy
yes it just happens, its not a projectile if thats what you mean, also shielding wont help him, all the other effects will stack after that, he can cast tonnes of weakness spells, use combinations of frost, energy and all other magical attacks under the sun, he could sheep him probabily as well, in which case hes dead
Originally posted by UtrigitaPyron flys in his battles anyway, in a little less than 2 seconds he flew around the entire planet. He can make miniature suns to keep enemies at bay, and can change his size to be even bigger than Nelly. He can easily output nuke level blasts at 20% in the OVA.
Yes but that isn't going to help him if he cannot get to the target now is it.And he most certainly wouldn't be capable of getting within range of Nelly which has completely control of the earth and has showen ability to bury himself beneath the earth. Setting up walls of earth around himself.
So the air is The best friend Pyron got in a battle against Nelly.
Which is no problem for Pyron.