Pyron takes on the aspect gauntlet!

The battle takes place on Azeroth and Neltharion is not corrupted 😄

he doesnt have to be killed in all three, his more powerful ability is that on a whim he can play any event again and again until he gets the uperhand, so it could easily be an endless battle or he does what i said, teleports pyron to a place in being where he cannot do anything and loses through BFR, straight into the void with him.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
5. Mana shield protects against everything? Toy with Pyron? Pyron can shield and spam teleport to make sure he's not hit. So he's the Lord of Magic on Azeroth? Big deal. Pyron is the lord and master of the universe. Mana shield? That's the shield that feeds off his own mana, right? Why can't he run out? Or better yet, why can't Pyron break it? He has broken powerful magical shields before.

6. I have one question about Noz. I read on wowwiki that he indeed does exist in the past, present, and future all at once, but it says nowhere that he needs to be defeated in all 3 to be killed. So is it just an assumption?

5: I nominate that to the under-rate of the week.. Trust me.. when you think about it, lord and master of the universe isnt matched with lord and master of magic.. Lord and master of the universe is a very plain title, where he is the conqueror.. Lord and master of magic is due to the fact that he is indeed or of the greatest force of magic at existance.. Pyron earned his title.. Malygos IS his title.. there's a difference.. I suggest you think it trough..

The manashield of Malygos would be tougher to break trough than anything Pyron has ever fought.. I'm sure Pyron has broken trough magical shields before, but nothing matches the shield of Malygos.. That is, if he would ever get the chance to try against the shield of Malygos..

Since this is before the corruption of Neltharion, Malygos is the second greatest threat.. For a reason.. I'm sure Pyron's shield and teleportation skills are impressive.. I'm sure they withstand near any kind of attacks.. but Malygos has more to bring into the fight than just attacks.. Pyron seem to be a natural built warrior.. a frontliner, I would like to call him.. offensive, offensive and offensive.. has a number of defensive and summoning/creation abilities as well..

So, I will call him frontliner for now.. he's a warrior of brute force.. Malygos is what I would like to call an "all-around-fighter".. He is not all pure power.. Have any of you considered the fact that he can spell-lock? Freeze ((not ice-freeze.. but magically freeze)), dispell positive effects from opposition, prevent them from doing specific things and manipulate the surrounding to his advantage..

As I linked a picture of before, a GREATLY and I mean GREATLY weakened dragon, which is under a spell-blockade, decapitate several people by just directing his hand at them..

Now think that dragon as a full strengthed blue dragon.. then multiply that with... probably around 50-100.. And you might get a hunch of how powerful Malygos is..

6: You wanna know why it isnt said? Because he has never been defeated.. Why would they mention something that have never happened, and possibly wont ever happen ((outside PIS.. I will curse the day, if I ever hear Blizzard mentioning bringing him into WoW.. WoW is already throwing dirt on the actual powers of characters))

He doesnt need to be defeated in all three.. if his present dies, his future dies and his past will fade possibly.. but the thing is, that he cant die.. Pyron, Kain, Jedah and all those characters that you lot fancy so much would never be capable of taking Nozdormus life.. I'm sorry, but they cant.. No, not even Kain with his time powers..

Nozdormu can see/exist in the future, remember? He lives them all stimulantly.. So, think like this.. Nozdormu sees the future.. His soul is drained.. Or he get slained.. Is he really stupid enough to still make that encounter? Maybe..

He might switch strategy, since he realise he cant make it the way he intended.. He looks into the future again... Again, he dies.. Will he now go into the fight with that strategy? No..

He thinks of another strategy.. He watches the strategy from the future.. Again, he perish.. Will he do it still? Doubtly..

Another try.. He looks to see what happens if he never does the encounter.. He lives.. Time goes on and when his opponent least expect it, the wrath of time will smite upon him..

The best thing Pyron can possibly hope for, is draw..

But.. Malygos stops him, since it is Neltharion before corruption..

agreed he can play a fight over and over again if he likes and as you say especially since hes in Azeroth as well, he can dip into his time periods and knows his own death and could most certainly just not do the tactics, although i dont think he could damage pyron he will not be beaten by him either. So i would say draw

Originally posted by Darth Extecute
Now think that dragon as a full strengthed blue dragon.. then multiply that with... probably around 50-100.. And you might get a hunch of how powerful Malygos is..

That probably wouldn't be enough the aspects are said to have the power of there entire Dragon Flight combined at the hight of there power and it still wasn't enough. So...

6: You wanna know why it isnt said? Because he has never been defeated.. Why would they mention something that have never happened, and possibly wont ever happen ((outside PIS.. I will curse the day, if I ever hear Blizzard mentioning bringing him into WoW.. WoW is already throwing dirt on the actual powers of characters))[/B]

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But.. Malygos stops him, since it is Neltharion before corruption.. [/B]

Yes.

Originally posted by Darth Extecute
5: I nominate that to the under-rate of the week.. Trust me.. when you think about it, lord and master of the universe isnt matched with lord and master of magic.. Lord and master of the universe is a very plain title, where he is the conqueror.. Lord and master of magic is due to the fact that he is indeed or of the greatest force of magic at existance.. Pyron earned his title.. Malygos IS his title.. there's a difference.. I suggest you think it trough..

The manashield of Malygos would be tougher to break trough than anything Pyron has ever fought.. I'm sure Pyron has broken trough magical shields before, but nothing matches the shield of Malygos.. That is, if he would ever get the chance to try against the shield of Malygos..

Since this is before the corruption of Neltharion, Malygos is the second greatest threat.. For a reason.. I'm sure Pyron's shield and teleportation skills are impressive.. I'm sure they withstand near any kind of attacks.. but Malygos has more to bring into the fight than just attacks.. Pyron seem to be a natural built warrior.. a frontliner, I would like to call him.. offensive, offensive and offensive.. has a number of defensive and summoning/creation abilities as well..

So, I will call him frontliner for now.. he's a warrior of brute force.. Malygos is what I would like to call an "all-around-fighter".. He is not all pure power.. Have any of you considered the fact that he can spell-lock? Freeze ((not ice-freeze.. but magically freeze)), dispell positive effects from opposition, prevent them from doing specific things and manipulate the surrounding to his advantage..

As I linked a picture of before, a GREATLY and I mean GREATLY weakened dragon, which is under a spell-blockade, decapitate several people by just directing his hand at them..

Now think that dragon as a full strengthed blue dragon.. then multiply that with... probably around 50-100.. And you might get a hunch of how powerful Malygos is..

6: You wanna know why it isnt said? Because he has never been defeated.. Why would they mention something that have never happened, and possibly wont ever happen ((outside PIS.. I will curse the day, if I ever hear Blizzard mentioning bringing him into WoW.. WoW is already throwing dirt on the actual powers of characters))

He doesnt need to be defeated in all three.. if his present dies, his future dies and his past will fade possibly.. but the thing is, that he cant die.. Pyron, Kain, Jedah and all those characters that you lot fancy so much would never be capable of taking Nozdormus life.. I'm sorry, but they cant.. No, not even Kain with his time powers..

Nozdormu can see/exist in the future, remember? He lives them all stimulantly.. So, think like this.. Nozdormu sees the future.. His soul is drained.. Or he get slained.. Is he really stupid enough to still make that encounter? Maybe..

He might switch strategy, since he realise he cant make it the way he intended.. He looks into the future again... Again, he dies.. Will he now go into the fight with that strategy? No..

He thinks of another strategy.. He watches the strategy from the future.. Again, he perish.. Will he do it still? Doubtly..

Another try.. He looks to see what happens if he never does the encounter.. He lives.. Time goes on and when his opponent least expect it, the wrath of time will smite upon him..

The best thing Pyron can possibly hope for, is draw..

But.. Malygos stops him, since it is Neltharion before corruption..

1. I wasn't serious, it is a title nontheless, and is not really a factor here. For example, both Pyron and Galactus are described as powerful cosmic beings, I could say "ZOMG since Galactus could stomp Malygos(Which he can, don't doubt that) Pyron can too since they both Cosmicz0r!"

See what I mean?

2. Donavan's bead shield(don't know what else to call it) is one of the most powerful shields in DS, his power is directly fueled by 3 actual Pantheon gods of vast power, and he himself is a powerful Dhampir(half-vampire), also, the beads themselves have power. Pyron broke that shield quite easily...TWICE!!!

3. Pyron's powers do attribute to offense, but he is not some dumb brute swinging an axe. He has a large variety of ranged powers that he can use, ranging from normal fireballs to teleporting concussive blasts(the blasts themselves teleport), can use his shapeshifting in combat(flaming uppercut ftw), is VERY fast, very physically strong as well, has a shield that has never been penetrated and is one of the most famous spam teleporters in 2D fighters. He can create Phobos on a whim, but they would likely only be a distraction to the Dragon Aspects.

4. Is spell lock sumthin like locking magic abilities? If it is, Pyron is not magic in any way whatsoever. As for freeze, his shield or mini suns could protect him(he has used them defensively). Dispell? Like dispelling his shield? Pyron's shield comes from his body, he can easily make it again. I am well aware of the effects magic can do. They have a way of doing the impossible.

5. Pyron's not some WoW mortal(yes I know WoW is just one game, but shorter to type 😄).

6. I am not denying his power, never have.

1. So it isn't true. Cool. Sumthin I can work with now.

2. So he can stop it before Jedah takes less than a second to raise his hand and eat his soul? Same with Kain. PYron could if he could do a powerful enough attack to one shot him. This guy is described as the physically weakest of all the Aspects, what is his defense?

3. So he can see a possible outcome and try to change it? I guess it could only be a draw, that is, unless Pyron could kill him fast enough, only way I see different.

4. I disagree.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Thanks for the word quilt. 😒

1. I wasn't serious, it is a title nontheless, and is not really a factor here. For example, both Pyron and Galactus are described as powerful cosmic beings, I could say "ZOMG since Galactus could stomp Malygos(Which he can, don't doubt that) Pyron can too since they both Cosmicz0r!"

See what I mean?

2. Donavan's bead shield(don't know what else to call it) is one of the most powerful shields in DS, his power is directly fueled by 3 actual Pantheon gods of vast power, and he himself is a powerful Dhampir(half-vampire), also, the beads themselves have power. Pyron broke that shield quite easily...TWICE!!!

3. Pyron's powers do attribute to offense, but he is not some dumb brute swinging an axe. He has a large variety of ranged powers that he can use, ranging from normal fireballs to teleporting concussive blasts(the blasts themselves teleport), can use his shapeshifting in combat(flaming uppercut ftw), is VERY fast, very physically strong as well, has a shield that has never been penetrated and is one of the most famous spam teleporters in 2D fighters. He can create Phobos on a whim, but they would likely only be a distraction to the Dragon Aspects.

4. Is spell lock sumthin like locking magic abilities? If it is, Pyron is not magic in any way whatsoever. As for freeze, his shield or mini suns could protect him(he has used them defensively). Dispell? Like dispelling his shield? Pyron's shield comes from his body, he can easily make it again. I am well aware of the effects magic can do. They have a way of doing the impossible.

5. Pyron's not some WoW mortal(yes I know WoW is just one game, but shorter to type 😄).

6. I am not denying his power, never have.

1. So it isn't true. Cool. Sumthin I can work with now.

2. So he can stop it before Jedah takes less than a second to raise his hand and eat his soul? Same with Kain. PYron could if he could do a powerful enough attack to one shot him. This guy is described as the physically weakest of all the Aspects, what is his defense?

3. So he can see a possible outcome and try to change it? I guess it could only be a draw, that is, unless Pyron could kill him fast enough, only way I see different.

4. I disagree.

Your most welcome 😉

1.1: I know what you mean, but since you brought up title, so did I..

1.2: Says me very little.. Was its limits controled by the endless amount of magic that its wielder possessed? In that case, they get equal.. How does the bead shield work? And breaking the shield is not the only task Pyron has to take on to defeat Malygos..

1.3: With a mere thought, Malygos would destroy most phobos possibly.. And I never said Pyron was dumb.. Just dont have as much to use into his advantage.. He may have a protective fireshield.. Malygos might just activate a shield that absorb fire.. But a disadvantage that Pyron will stumble over, is the illusions.. Multiple Malygos will harass him with spells, but this is just a minor thing of what Malygos would do if the situation demanded it..

1.4: I only mentioned very minor parts of what Malygos magic can do.. Indeed, if something can make the impossible, its magic.. If anyone below pantheon level could do something that in mortal words would be defined as impossible, Malygos would probably be that anyone..

1.5: I know he isnt.. but you dont seem to get the idea.. those may have been mortals, but the dragon was under a spell blockade.. and he had just recently been very near death.. and he was nearly deep frozen..
And he splatted those heads like nothing, by just raising his hand.. he's in that strip nothing like his prime.. and his prime isnt even worth whispering with Malygos as comparation.. There's a lot to magic.. Splatting, attacking and destroying is just a minor part of what a blue dragon has at stash.. Especially the aspect..

1.6: Your not denying them, but your not realising them either..

2.1: Indeed.. Kill his present and he is defeated..

2.2: Time..

2.3: Pyron may be superior any other foe in combat, but he cant battle time.. At the very least, its a draw to Nozdormus benefit..

2.4: I know..

Originally posted by Darth Extecute
Your most welcome 😉

1.1: I know what you mean, but since you brought up title, so did I..

1.2: Says me very little.. Was its limits controled by the endless amount of magic that its wielder possessed? In that case, they get equal.. How does the bead shield work? And breaking the shield is not the only task Pyron has to take on to defeat Malygos..

1.3: With a mere thought, Malygos would destroy most phobos possibly.. And I never said Pyron was dumb.. Just dont have as much to use into his advantage.. He may have a protective fireshield.. Malygos might just activate a shield that absorb fire.. But a disadvantage that Pyron will stumble over, is the illusions.. Multiple Malygos will harass him with spells, but this is just a minor thing of what Malygos would do if the situation demanded it..

1.4: I only mentioned very minor parts of what Malygos magic can do.. Indeed, if something can make the impossible, its magic.. If anyone below pantheon level could do something that in mortal words would be defined as impossible, Malygos would probably be that anyone..

1.5: I know he isnt.. but you dont seem to get the idea.. those may have been mortals, but the dragon was under a spell blockade.. and he had just recently been very near death.. and he was nearly deep frozen..
And he splatted those heads like nothing, by just raising his hand.. he's in that strip nothing like his prime.. and his prime isnt even worth whispering with Malygos as comparation.. There's a lot to magic.. Splatting, attacking and destroying is just a minor part of what a blue dragon has at stash.. Especially the aspect..

1.6: Your not denying them, but your not realising them either..

2.1: Indeed.. Kill his present and he is defeated..

2.2: Time..

2.3: Pyron may be superior any other foe in combat, but he cant battle time.. At the very least, its a draw to Nozdormus benefit..

2.4: I know..

1.1. You brought up title first. 😉

1.2. Basically, Donavan just has to think it, and the beads will disconnect, and float in front of him in a spiral, the beads are powered by the limitless power of 3 Gods, and the attack is set off by a powerful Dhampir. I know it is not the only task, but you gotta work on these things one at a time. 😉

1.3. Phobos are pretty strong, I don't know if he could destroy them with a thought, but he would beat them without a lot of effort probably. Also, Pyron's shield isn't fire, it's just energy. Illusions? That could be a problem, yes.

1.4. Yes, magic is like that. Then again, Pyron's very existence is a mockery of reality.

1.5. I get it, as the Aspect, he is far more powerful.

1.6. I realise some of his powers, remember, my knowledge on this character is pretty limited.

2.1. Kay.

2.2. I was actually wrong, it is Malygos who is described as physically weakest.

2.3. Seems that way.

2.4. Fred Fred Burger.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
pissed

1.1. You brought up title first. 😉

1.2. Basically, Donavan just has to think it, and the beads will disconnect, and float in front of him in a spiral, the beads are powered by the limitless power of 3 Gods, and the attack is set off by a powerful Dhampir. I know it is not the only task, but you gotta work on these things one at a time. 😉

1.3. Phobos are pretty strong, I don't know if he could destroy them with a thought, but he would beat them without a lot of effort probably. Also, Pyron's shield isn't fire, it's just energy. Illusions? That could be a problem, yes.

1.4. Yes, magic is like that. Then again, Pyron's very existence is a mockery of reality.

1.5. I get it, as the Aspect, he is far more powerful.

1.6. I realise some of his powers, remember, my knowledge on this character is pretty limited.

2.1. Kay.

2.2. I was actually wrong, it is Malygos who is described as physically weakest.

2.3. Seems that way.

2.4. Fred Fred Burger.

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1.1: Nope

1.2: The gods powers in one universe can be entirely different from those of one in another universe.. Just because Malygos isnt a good, doesnt mean he cant make things more effective than actual gods of another universe..

1.3: They are summons/creations, no? He desummon/decreate them.. Or he simply freeze them trough magic.. Anyway, minor unit is no factor in the fight.. And define, energy, please? I recall that energy was something special in DS..

1.4: So is many other characters.. Malygos would rule our planet in a matter of hours, I believe, if he was sent to reality..

1.5: By far..

1.6: Then your underestimating the powers of magic.. At least warcraft magic..

2.1: -

2.2: Excluding post-demon soul Neltharion, Malygos is probably one of the strongest, if not THE strongest, even though he lack physical advantages.. Magic is a HUGE area in the warcraft universe..

2.3: Seeing is believing..

2.4: Burgerking?

Lock this f.Ucking thread.

Originally posted by Darth Extecute
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1.1: Nope

1.2: The gods powers in one universe can be entirely different from those of one in another universe.. Just because Malygos isnt a good, doesnt mean he cant make things more effective than actual gods of another universe..

1.3: They are summons/creations, no? He desummon/decreate them.. Or he simply freeze them trough magic.. Anyway, minor unit is no factor in the fight.. And define, energy, please? I recall that energy was something special in DS..

1.4: So is many other characters.. Malygos would rule our planet in a matter of hours, I believe, if he was sent to reality..

1.5: By far..

1.6: Then your underestimating the powers of magic.. At least warcraft magic..

2.1: -

2.2: Excluding post-demon soul Neltharion, Malygos is probably one of the strongest, if not THE strongest, even though he lack physical advantages.. Magic is a HUGE area in the warcraft universe..

2.3: Seeing is believing..

2.4: Burgerking?

1.2. Never said that. These specific gods are elemental gods I think. A fire one, lightning one, and an ice one I think. Also, Pyron's shield can withstand great damage, it took multiple swings from Donavan's sword, which quite easily cut a thick building in half.

1.3. Alright. He creates them. Energy sumthin special in DS? Not to my knowledge, it's just an energy shield, nothing fancy.

1.4. Pyron would rule the universe if sent to ours. 313

1.5. Right.

1.6. What? I just said I have limited knowledge on him, how is that underestimating anything?

2.1. This guy would stomp Warcraft. galan_beyonder

2.2. IMO, it would be Nozdormu cause of the time powers. His physical weakness can still be exploited.

2.3. This guy would also stomp Warcraft. galan_mr_mxyzptlk

2.4. ioriyagami

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1.1. Yes.

1.2. Never said that. These specific gods are elemental gods I think. A fire one, lightning one, and an ice one I think. Also, Pyron's shield can withstand great damage, it took multiple swings from Donavan's sword, which quite easily cut a thick building in half.

1.3. Alright. He creates them. Energy sumthin special in DS? Not to my knowledge, it's just an energy shield, nothing fancy.

1.4. Pyron would rule the universe if sent to ours. 313

1.5. Right.

1.6. What? I just said I have limited knowledge on him, how is that underestimating anything?

2.1. This guy would stomp Warcraft. galan_beyonder

2.2. IMO, it would be Nozdormu cause of the time powers. His physical weakness can still be exploited.

2.3. This guy would also stomp Warcraft. galan_mr_mxyzptlk

2.4. ioriyagami

1.1: Your confusing me with Remindme.. One fanboy with another.. I know its kinda hard to tell the difference at times..

1.2: So, his shield is basically elemental?

1.3: Ah.. So, energy is like electricity?

1.4: That cannot be proven..

1.5: -

1.6: I know you lack knowledge in him.. but from what I've seen in the past, you hold somewhat knowledge in warcraft at least..

2.1: Certainly

2.2: Nozdormu has advantages with time, yes.. but that doesnt mean he's the best choice in combat.. He may manipulate time, but he cant come near the destructive force that Malygos can bring forth..

2.3: Certainly

2.4: Indeed

Originally posted by Sado-sama
Lock this f.Ucking thread.

Why so?

Originally posted by Darth Extecute
1.1: Your confusing me with Remindme.. One fanboy with another.. I know its kinda hard to tell the difference at times..

1.2: So, his shield is basically elemental?

1.3: Ah.. So, energy is like electricity?

1.4: That cannot be proven..

1.5: -

1.6: I know you lack knowledge in him.. but from what I've seen in the past, you hold somewhat knowledge in warcraft at least..

2.1: Certainly

2.2: Nozdormu has advantages with time, yes.. but that doesnt mean he's the best choice in combat.. He may manipulate time, but he cant come near the destructive force that Malygos can bring forth..

2.3: Certainly

2.4: Indeed

1.2. Maybe...not sure, if it is it has the elemental attributes of all 3 Gods, and has his own power in there.

1.3. No, just a normal energy shield, it has no specific elemental attributes.

1.4. YA HUH!

1.5. ....

1.6. I know a little, don't know much on the Aspects tho.

2.1. Yep(I was serious btw)

2.2. Yeah, but like you said he can replay time if a battle would not go his way to change the strategy.

2.3. Yep(I was serious once again)

2.4. Yeah...

what do you mean you were serious, how can you possibly be serious facing Mxy or beyonder VS Warcraft...however if you took away KMC rules then Warcraft may have some fun 😈

Originally posted by Burning thought
what do you mean you were serious, how can you possibly be serious facing Mxy or beyonder VS Warcraft...however if you took away KMC rules then Warcraft may have some fun 😈

Mxy, doesnt he take power from 5th dimensions and such, and has powers from such, also Mxy aint that great, he can be tricked, by like Joker, ime sure the incredible manipulators especially Titans in Warcraft are more than capable of getting him to do something stupid against himself

as for beyonder, i dont know, wasnt his power all just a mental illusion in the end and the other abstracts were simply going along with him, thats what i heard.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1.1. Oh. Sorry. :embarassed:

1.2. Maybe...not sure, if it is it has the elemental attributes of all 3 Gods, and has his own power in there.

1.3. No, just a normal energy shield, it has no specific elemental attributes.

1.4. YA HUH!

1.5. ....

1.6. I know a little, don't know much on the Aspects tho.

2.1. Yep(I was serious btw)

2.2. Yeah, but like you said he can replay time if a battle would not go his way to change the strategy.

2.3. Yep(I was serious once again)

2.4. Yeah...

1.1: Its cool

1.2: So, nothing indicating its more powerful than Malygos shield..

1.3: So, nothing indicating its more powerful than Malygos shield..

1.4: Nope

2.1: Maybe you are right, maybe you arent.. This isn't the thread to discuss such a matter in, so I wont bother..

2.2: Yes, he would certainly crush Malygos.. But he isn't more powerful..

2.3: Maybe you are right, maybe you arent.. This isn't the thread to discuss such a matter in, so I wont bother..

Originally posted by Darth Extecute
1.1: Its cool

1.2: So, nothing indicating its more powerful than Malygos shield..

1.3: So, nothing indicating its more powerful than Malygos shield..

1.4: Nope

2.1: Maybe you are right, maybe you arent.. This isn't the thread to discuss such a matter in, so I wont bother..

2.2: Yes, he would certainly crush Malygos.. But he isn't more powerful..

2.3: Maybe you are right, maybe you arent.. This isn't the thread to discuss such a matter in, so I wont bother..

1.2. Because it may be elemental? 😕

1.3. Stops all attacks, never been penetrated, can do it at will and teleport with it on...you choose.

1.4. Yes. 😉

2.1. I am right. 😉

2.2. Hmmmm...

2.3. I am right. 😉

Anyway, this is starting to get a little off topic.

anyway as we stated, he doesnt clear this gauntlet one way or the other