Originally posted by DigiMark007I never attacked evolutionary biology or called invalid did I? Someone is only seeing in dichotomies, a pity really. Also, you said Genesis was literal? And what Christian sects threw it out the window? Hardly any that I can think of. Don't most Americans believe the earth in 6000 years old?
Nah, the burden of proof isn't on evolutionary biologists that back their sh*t up, it's on internet posters that decide Adam and Eve were real people and the Book of Genesis is literal fact....which is an opinion that has long since been thrown out the window by all but the most extreme and stubborn Christian sects.Also, I want to hit everything in Bardock's sig...especially the 2nd girl. Looks like that hot chick from "How I Met Your Mother".
Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
1) Then you are blind, [b]violence and conflict have been very common aspects of Christianity and Judaism for millenia. Are not violence and conflict forms of corruption ?2) Okay, atleast we can come to some agreement there. Judaism is not the oldest religion. There were religions prior to it.
3) There's absolutely no evidense to support Adam and Eve's existance though. [/B]
3) There is no evidence against it either, unless one can only see in dichotomies, which would be sad and close minded.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Who decides whether Religious texts are supposed to be taken literally?
The people who use common sense decide that its not supposed to be taken literially. Why do you think its the fundies who are the ones who always take religon literially? Their idiots you know and I know it.
Hell if you did thorough research into religon you would come to the same conclusion. Just because somebody has an opinion doesnt mean its valid. Some people are of the opinion that Columbus discovered America.
Originally posted by AlfheimI see, but even with intense interpretation Religious texts do contradict each other don't you think?
The people who use common sense decide that its not supposed to be taken literially. Why do you think its the fundies who are the ones who always take religon literially? Their idiots you know and I know it.Hell if you did thorough research into religon you would come to the same conclusion. Just because somebody has an opinion doesnt mean its valid. Some people are of the opinion that Columbus discovered America.
Originally posted by Bardock42
As in....they are a Religion?
For example Islam says there is only one god, that contradicts Hindusim were they believe in many? It doesnt because Hindus believe that the many gods are aspects of one god.
Ok Islam then contradicts paganism because they believe in many gods as well? If you analyse paganism deeply you will see that pagans believe that everything is infinite, whats the connection with Islam? Dont muslims believe that God is infinite? If hes infinite doesnt that mean hes everywhere so doesnt that mean there is divinity in everything? Logically yes but of course fundies will argue otherwise.
Hell if you look at some interpretations of Hinduism is not far removed from some stuff Dawkins has said about god.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Wow. You just changed my whole life.
Theres no need for the sarcasm im not trying to convert you, its just a discussion.
Originally posted by Nellinator
1) No, they aren't. They may be signs of corruptions amongst subscribers which may or may not be a reflection on the religion, or the violence and conflict may be justified, in which case it is definitely not corruption.3) There is no evidence against it either, unless one can only see in dichotomies, which would be sad and close minded.
1) That is such a cop-out. 👇 You know very well there has been much injustified violence and conflict as a result of Christianity (Spanish Inquisition, Salem Witch Trials, Crusades, Native American Holocaust-to name a few).
If This is not corruption, then how are Judaism and Christianity non-corrupt while Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, and all other religions are ?
2) But you see....Adam and Eve have nothing but the Bible's fables to go by. And Evolution..well...has loads and loads of physical and scientific evidense to go by. 😬
Originally posted by Alfheim
For example Islam says there is only one god, that contradicts Hindusim were they believe in many? It doesnt because Hindus believe that the many gods are aspects of one god.Ok Islam then contradicts paganism because they believe in many gods as well? If you analyse paganism deeply you will see that pagans believe that everything is infinite, whats the connection with Islam? Dont muslims believe that God is infinite? If hes infinite doesnt that mean hes everywhere so doesnt that mean there is divinity in everything? Logically yes but of course fundies will argue otherwise.
Hell if you look at some interpretations of Hinduism is not far removed from some stuff Dawkins has said about god.
Theres no need for the sarcasm im not trying to convert you, its just a discussion.
Total different thing. Either claim that they are fundamentally the same thing or that some connections can be drawn. Giving a few connections does not prove that they are fundamentally the same.
Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
1) That is such a cop-out. 👇 You know very well there has been much injustified violence and conflict as a result of Christianity (Spanish Inquisition, Salem Witch Trials, Crusades, Native American Holocaust-to name a few).If This is not corruption, then how are Judaism and Christianity non-corrupt while Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, and all other religions are ?
2) But you see....Adam and Eve have nothing but the Bible's fables to go by. And Evolution..well...has loads and loads of physical and scientific evidense to go by. 😬
I'm not talking about moral corruption, I'm talking about corruption of truth.
2) Exactly what I said. You only see this in a dichotomy, which is why you are missing out.