The Fury versus WWH
With the impending Huc related beat down Stark does one of the most drastic things in his life. He screws with time. Intending to pull out several other Hulks to 'aid' him he instead mistakenly gains the killer Cybiote.
It wastes him.
Hulk breaks into Stark Tower and isn't too happy having his revenge denied.
Location : Stark Tower
Stipulation : No PIS, No CIS.
Ready FIGHT !
Besides T-Pain... it really depends what Fury.
IMO, the only Fury that can defeat WWH is the one that fought MJJ. After the super computer he absorbed. That one would ass rape Hulk. Really... he'd shove his lobster claw through Hulk's anus.
Otherwise, he's been punked badly by lower super heroes.
And if he was at the same level after he took the destruction of a universe as when he fought the heroes... then it sort of contradicts each other.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Besides T-Pain... it really depends what Fury.IMO, the only Fury that can defeat WWH is the one that fought MJJ. After the super computer he absorbed. That one would ass rape Hulk. Really... he'd shove his lobster claw through Hulk's anus.
Otherwise, he's been punked badly by lower super heroes.
And if he was at the same level after he took the destruction of a universe as when he fought the heroes... then it sort of contradicts each other.
while I agree that it does depend on his level, the one that got punked by the Xmen wasn't the Fury. It was a low level copy made by Jamie Braddock.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
while I agree that it does depend on his level, the one that got punked by the Xmen wasn't the Fury. It was a low level copy made by Jamie Braddock.
Even if it was, he wasn't 'punked', he had to be taken out with a f*cking BLACK HOLE !
I think that kinda says something ? Dont you .
Originally posted by TricksterPriestThat's nice.
you mean after he tried dimension porting the first time? Cause the universe getting smashed didn't hurt him. It was when he used his dimensional teleport that he got messed up.
However, I'm talking about this:
*I'm sure you know about this*
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Originally posted by TricksterPriest
you mean after he tried dimension porting the first time? Cause the universe getting smashed didn't hurt him. It was when he used his dimensional teleport that he got messed up.
Jaspers/Fury just got stomped by Exiles
Maybe a fascade by Merlyn
If that's true, Jaspers and Fury remain dead
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
That's nice.
*even though that is an assumption,
and it's an assumption of what actually hurt him as well*
"assumption?"
That's not an "assumption" and you know it isn't because we had this debate,
and evidently the Fury resisted the nullification of Time & Space without a scratch.
The Fury off-panel was bombarded with who knows what during his journey from
Reality 238 to the 616 universe.
All kinds of obstacles could've been in his way, gamma explosions, super novas,
quasars, the vacuum of Space itself for such a long period of time,
other universal implosions and lord knows what else.
Remember, the 238 reality is UniverseS away from 616.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
However, I'm talking about this:
*I'm sure you know about this*
That's the end of that little skirmish,
how about the first TEN Pages of that battle,
where Fury was owning all of them?
Fury got confused for a moment because of the Phantom-like Zeit-Geist,
who Fury couldn't detect with its sensors,
Fury was attacked simultaneously while confused, he was slightly vulnerable,
but it was a temporary reprieve, cause Fury came back.
Let's also forget that Fury resisted an Omniversal attack in that skirmish too.
Here's the complete battle, and what went down for real:
Captain Britain - owned:
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Wardog - owned:
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Legion - owned
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Cobweb owned:
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Oxo - owned:
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The Omniversal power of Fascination (aka - Scatterbrain) owned:
And Captain Britain, who joined the fight again, and got owned again:
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continues in the next post:
Finally Zeit-Geist joins the battle:
Zeit is a freakin Abstract being (not as powerful as an Abstract Concept though)
The Fury was registering an attack on its person, but couldn't see it,
bacause Zeit is barely part of any one dimension, he's more wraith-like than Kitty, completely undetectable and can only partly materialize on the physical plane,
so Zeit attacks Fury from the inside out:
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While the Fury is confused,
the surviving members attack Fury simultaneously,
one of those attacks being Omniversal (Fascination/Scatterbrain)
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Heck, Fascination/Scatterbrain (Omniversal power) plays the biggest role in the attack:
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So they manage to bury Fury under a mini mountain of rocks,
temporarily slowing down the Fury,
who will definitely come back:
Originally posted by Mr MasterSo... we don't know what hurt him?
"assumption?"That's not an "assumption" and you know it isn't because we had this debate,
and evidently the Fury resisted the nullification of Time & Space without a scratch.The Fury off-panel was bombarded with who knows what during his journey from
Reality 238 to the 616 universe.All kinds of obstacles could've been in his way, gamma explosions, super novas,
quasars, the vacuum of Space itself for such a long period of time,
other universal implosions and lord knows what else.Remember, the 238 reality is UniverseS away from 616.
Interesting...
So, wouldn't it be an "assumption" by saying he could have been hurt by this and that.
Originally posted by Mr MasterIt's obvious he was owning them (or Britain I guess), and in the first page I showed, he took Britain out.
That's the end of that little skirmish,
how about the first TEN Pages of that battle,
where Fury was owning all of them?Fury got confused for a moment because of the Phantom-like Zeit-Geist,
who Fury couldn't detect with its sensors,
Fury was attacked simultaneously while confused, he was slightly vulnerable,
but it was a temporary reprieve, cause Fury came back.Let's also forget that Fury resisted an Omniversal attack in that skirmish too.
I have no idea how tough Zeit-Geist is, and I have no idea who he is (or any of those heroes for that matter). 😐 I just assume he's like Kitty.
On that topic, what the hell does Scatterbrain do that makes her omniversal?
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
it really depends what Fury.
Imo, either Fury kills Hulk.
Hulk won't have the specific circumstances at his disposal that will duplicate
or even imitate the scenerio where Fury got temporarily owned by heroes,
One of which is an Abstract being, and another who can affect beings on an Omniversal scale.
The Hulk of reality 238 got killed by Fury,
I know it's not the same thing, just mentioning it.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Otherwise, he's been punked badly by lower super heroes.
And if he was at the same level after he took the destruction of a universe as when he fought the heroes... then it sort of contradicts each other.
I have to disagree cause the setting isn't that black & white.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
So... we don't know what hurt him?
We don't.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Interesting...So, wouldn't it be an "assumption" by saying he could have been hurt by this and that.
Nah, cause it had to be something,
and we atleast know for sure
that it was not the nullification of 238 that harmed him one bit.
So what else is left?
The journey, I mean that's what's stated on panel anyway,
"it's journey was not pleasant"
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
It's obvious he was owning them (or Britain I guess),and in the first page I showed, he took Britain out.
He owned Britain twice,
killed Two of them
and owned everyone else with the exception of Zeit (the Abstract cat)
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
However, I only saved up to that point in my Photobucket however many months ago.
So I don't have the first part.
If you have iChat or AIM I can send you those b. 🙂
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
I have no idea how tough Zeit-Geist is,
and I have no idea who he is (or any of those heroes for that matter).
I just assume he's like Kitty.
From his bio:
Powers/Abilities:
"Zeitgeist exists in the physical plain in only the most abstract sense.
He apparently materializes from some other dimension,
likely a pocket of Limbo, as need be.
He can pass through solid matter with minimal effort and is indetectable
by virtually all forms of mechanical, computerized, or energy scanning.
With a thought, Zeitgeist can physically materialize as much as need be,
in order to physically contact objects or beings.
He can solidify all or any portion of his body.
By partially materializing within solid matter he can cause great physical pain,
destroy matter, and/or disrupt computerized systems.
His physical form is not subject to normal injury
and can reform even after being shredded."
This cat is ill.
Zeit is no joke,
despite the use of numerous means of detection by the Fury,
Fury wasn't able to register Zeit's presence, Fury became temporarily disoriented,
then when Fury got jumped by Zeit, Scatterbrain and the rest,
he was temporarily owned.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
On that topic, what the hell does Scatterbrain do that makes her omniversal?
Fascination aka Scatterbrain:
"And with her touch,
the guard finds his Consciousness
instantly expanded across the Infinite breadth of the Omniverse"
Originally posted by Mr MasterEven if he does kill him, it won't happen soon. I mean, Britain took some punishment from him for a little bit, and WWH>>>>>>>>>Britain.
Imo, either Fury kills Hulk.Hulk won't have the specific circumstances at his disposal that will duplicate
or even imitate the scenerio where Fury got temporarily owned by heroes,
One of which is an Abstract being, and another who can affect beings on an Omniversal scale.The Hulk of reality 238 got killed by Fury,
I know it's not the same thing, just mentioning it.
Fury's hard to compare to other beings IMO.
Even if Hulk can't win, I think he can do fine, unless it's the one that beat Jaspers.
Seemed like phasing... and plus, I'm not sure how powerful Scatterbrain's blasts are.
I don't really recall that... either that, or I didn't read the story.
Originally posted by Mr MasterStill though, does their attacks>>>>the destruction of a universe?
I have to disagree cause the setting isn't that black & white.
I mean, after Fury got ruffed up a bit... he was put through a rock...
Originally posted by Mr MasterStill assuming, isn't it?
We don't.Nah, cause it had to be something,
and we atleast know for sure
that it was not the nullification of 238 that harmed him one bit.So what else is left?
The journey, I mean that's what's stated on panel anyway,
"it's journey was not pleasant"
I said it's an assumption of what actually hurt him, and that still holds true. We don't know if it was a kitten, or even Jesus. If we don't know, then what does that make it when we try to say what hurt him?
Originally posted by Mr Master
If you have iChat or AIM I can send you those b. 🙂
Originally posted by Mr MasterHe sounds a lot like Martian Manhunter in the phasing sense...
From his bio:Powers/Abilities:
"Zeitgeist exists in the physical plain in only the most abstract sense.
He apparently materializes from some other dimension,
likely a pocket of Limbo, as need be.
He can pass through solid matter with minimal effort and is indetectable
by virtually all forms of mechanical, computerized, or energy scanning.
With a thought, Zeitgeist can physically materialize as much as need be,
in order to physically contact objects or beings.
He can solidify all or any portion of his body.
By partially materializing within solid matter he can cause great physical pain,
destroy matter, and/or disrupt computerized systems.
His physical form is not subject to normal injury
and can reform even after being shredded."This cat is ill.
Zeit is no joke,
despite the use of numerous means of detection by the Fury,
Fury wasn't able to register Zeit's presence, Fury became temporarily disoriented,
then when Fury got jumped by Zeit, Scatterbrain and the rest,
he was temporarily owned.
Originally posted by Mr MasterAh... does that mean her beams are that powerful though? I mean, it seems her main power from that scan, comes from scattering people's brains throughout the omniverse.
Fascination aka Scatterbrain:"And with her touch,
the guard finds his Consciousness
instantly expanded across the Infinite breadth of the Omniverse"
I mean, she seemed as powerful as Britain... not to say Britain isn't powerful (he's got the upper hand on omniversal beings as well), but still, Britain is no Huc.
Please, do not confront Master on the crazy statements he makes. He will just throw a thousand scans up on here, keep making the same crazy statements over and over, and get rude and insulting.
No, Scatterbrain and Fascination are not "omniversal" in power stature.
Regardless of where the guards mind was sent.
Yes, geist is just like the Vision, Darkoth and any number of other characters. He is not an abstract entity by any stretch of the imagination.
He is just a ghost-dude from another dimension.
