Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Even if he does kill him, it won't happen soon. I mean, Britain took some punishment from him for a little bit, and WWH>>>>>>>>>Britain.
He might last a little while but not cause of Britain's performance,
Brian got owned immediately.
In this particular fight, one blow both times.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Fury's hard to compare to other beings IMO.
Even if Hulk can't win, I think he can do fine, unless it's the one that beat Jaspers.
Imo, upgrade Fury wins immediately,
former Fury wins after a short while.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Seemed like phasing...
It's more than that. The Zeit is like a Phantom,
in fact,
Zeitgeist is literally translated as "Time Ghost."
It is more loosely translated to mean "Spirit of the Times."
According to his bio.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
and plus,
I'm not sure how powerful Scatterbrain's blasts are.
She used her omniversal power on him right before Zeit jumped in,
she also touch the concentration of power the second time around.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
I don't really recall that... either that, or I didn't read the story.
The 238 Universe was a mirror alternate reality of 616.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Still though, does their attacks>>>>the destruction of a universe?I mean, after Fury got ruffed up a bit... he was put through a rock...
I'm sure Scatterbrain did a good amount of damage
when she sunk her fingers into Fury's head,
but for the most part, (aside from her)
their attacks meant nothing until Zeit confused Fury,
then they attacked as one.
Still though, Fury wasn't beaten, only temporarily stalled.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Still assuming, isn't it?I said it's an assumption of what actually hurt him, and that still holds true. We don't know if it was a kitten, or even Jesus. If we don't know, then what does that make it when we try to say what hurt him?
I never said I knew excatly what hurt him,
only that it was surely the journey from 238 to 616.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
I have/had them... in black and white. Just didn't put the whole fight in my Photobucket however many months ago.
Cool.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Ah... does that mean her beams are that powerful though?
I mean, it seems her main power from that scan,
comes from scattering people's brains throughout the omniverse.
Like I said, she dug her fingers into Fury head right before Zeit joined the fight.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
I mean, she seemed as powerful as Britain...
She's tougher than Brian:
Here they both get attacked by Fury in the same manner:
Scatterbrain comes back fresh,
while Brian is still dizzy:
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
not to say Britain isn't powerful (he's got the upper hand on omniversal beings as well), [/B]
I agree he's powerful, but taking on omniversal beings?
During his status as the Crosstime guardian, he was upgraded it seemed.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
but still, Britain is no Huc. [/B]
I would've like to see what Brian from X-Men #462 was capable of.
Originally posted by Mr Master
He might last a little while but not cause of Britain's performance,
Brian got owned immediately.In this particular fight, one blow both times.
Are you saying he would one-shot Hulk?
Talking about the one that fought the heroes.
Because Fury definitely isn't at Jaspers beating levels going by forum rules in this thread... in fact, he'd be at "I just got my head ripped off and was owned by a chick" levels.
Originally posted by Mr MasterBy upgrade, you mean the one that fought Jaspers? Ya, I'm not arguing that.
Imo, upgrade Fury wins immediately,
former Fury wins after a short while.
Originally posted by Mr MasterSo, because his name means something, that means he did more than phasing?
It's more than that. The Zeit is like a Phantom,
in fact,
Zeitgeist is literally translated as "Time Ghost."
It is more loosely translated to mean "Spirit of the Times."
According to his bio.
Intriguing...
Originally posted by Mr MasterYa... that didn't work, as Fury adapted.
She used her omniversal power on him right before Zeit jumped in,
she also touch the concentration of power the second time around.
I'm asking how powerful her beams are.
Originally posted by Mr MasterUh... huh...
The 238 Universe was a mirror alternate reality of 616.
Originally posted by Mr Master
I'm sure Scatterbrain did a good amount of damage
when she sunk her fingers into Fury's head,
but for the most part, (aside from her)
their attacks meant nothing until Zeit confused Fury,
then they attacked as one.Still though, Fury wasn't beaten, only temporarily stalled.
That's like saying someone who got KO'ed wasn't beaten, only temporarily stalled...
Originally posted by Mr Master
Like I said, she dug her fingers into Fury head right before Zeit joined the fight.
Originally posted by Mr Master
She's tougher than Brian:Here they both get attacked by Fury in the same manner:
Scatterbrain comes back fresh,
while Brian is still dizzy:
Originally posted by Mr MasterWell, he's done this...
I agree he's powerful, but taking on omniversal beings?During his status as the Crosstime guardian, he was upgraded it seemed.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Excalibur 47:
Pawns a bunch of guards set to guard Roma (Omniversal guard), and Saturnyne.With just his fingers, he bends Saturnyne's gun.
Wrecks shit up in the Roma's Starlight Citadel (Omniversal place).
It seems like he could have punched S out there...
Originally posted by Mr Master462... 462... is that the one where he was punching Phoenix around?
I would've like to see what Brian from X-Men #462 was capable of.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
So, why would he last a while?
He would, a little while.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Are you saying he would one-shot Hulk?
Talking about the one that fought the heroes.
Nah, just kill him after a short struggle.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Because Fury definitely isn't at Jaspers beating levels going by forum rules in this thread... in fact, he'd be at "I just got my head ripped off and was owned by a chick" levels.
"head ripped off?" ... "owned by chick?"
I have no idea what you're talking about.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
So, because his name means something, that means he did more than phasing?Intriguing...
Humor, I recognize it.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Ya... that didn't work, as Fury adapted.I'm asking how powerful her beams are.
I'm not sure,
but that's inconsequential because she dug her fingers in Fury's head
right before the simultaneous attack by the team, Zeit and herself.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Uh... huh...
Yep.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
He moved his consciousness, so it wouldn't work...That's like saying someone who got KO'ed wasn't beaten, only temporarily stalled...
Only Fury wasn't knocked out.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
But that doesn't tell me how powerful her beams are...
She attacked Fury with beams, but she also exercised her omniversal power.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Brian got attacked later, and got hit harder and more times...Plus he's either dizzy, or he's blinded by the light...
Negative, Brian didn't get attacked later before Fury was momentarily buried,
and you have no proof that Brian was hit harder either.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Well, he's done this...
1. Those guards are a joke, I don't know why they even put them there.
2. He bent Sat's gun, doesn't mean anything.
3. He didn't wreck shit up,
he only kicked and broke one of the many chess boards Roma uses.
Those chessboards are meaningless without Roma's touch.
Do you really think if that chessboard had significance in relation to Reality,
that would've been allowed?
I don't consider this taking on Omniversal powers.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
It seems like he could have punched S out there...
Brian is tougher than Saturnyne.
Atleast he was, I'm not sure where's he at at this point.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
462... 462... is that the one where he was punching Phoenix around?
He got jumped by Sat's elite team, he owned them all.
This was much more impressing than those paper guards.
Sat punched him dead in the grill, he didn't even flinch.
Originally posted by Mr MasterLike I said, "why?".
He would, a little while.
Following your logic, Fury should kill him in the first shot.
So, why would Hulk last a second?
Originally posted by Mr Master
Nah, just kill him after a short struggle.
Originally posted by Mr MasterDie by Sword.
"head ripped off?" ... "owned by chick?"I have no idea what you're talking about.
Originally posted by Mr MasterBut her power is omniversal (responding to this basically).
I'm not sure,
but that's inconsequential because she dug her fingers in Fury's head
right before the simultaneous attack by the team, Zeit and herself.
Originally posted by Mr Master
.....................................................................................Heck, Fascination/Scatterbrain (Omniversal power) plays the biggest role in the attack:
.....................................................................................
And right there, she fired blasts, and helped Brian put Fury down through the ground.
I'm curious as to why she's being called omniversal, if she isn't "scattering brains". 🙂
Originally posted by Mr Master😐
Only Fury wasn't knocked out.
Anyway, was Fury not taken down by those beings?
Would doing what those heroes did to Fury not count as being "beat"?
Originally posted by Mr MasterWhen?
She attacked Fury with beams, but she also exercised her omniversal power.
Because the only time she exercised her "omniversal" power, was when she tried to scatter Fury's brains.
What have her beams done to exercise omniversal power?
Originally posted by Mr Master
Negative, Brian didn't get attacked later before Fury was momentarily buried,
and you have no proof that Brian was hit harder either.
Well, he only b*tchslapped Scats and stomped on her head...
As compared to being elbowed in the guy, punched across the chin, and then smashed into the ground...
Brian's beating seemed worse...
Originally posted by Mr MasterOK. 🙂
1. Those guards are a joke, I don't know why they even put them there.
2. He bent Sat's gun, doesn't mean anything.
3. He didn't wreck shit up,
he only kicked and broke one of the many chess boards Roma uses.
Those chessboards are meaningless without Roma's touch.Do you really think if that chessboard had significance in relation to Reality,
that would've been allowed?I don't consider this taking on Omniversal powers.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Brian is tougher than Saturnyne.Atleast he was, I'm not sure where's he at at this point.
If I am, then that is my main point.
Brian... who is about Wonderman level, is tougher than an omniversal being... imagine that. 🙂
Originally posted by Mr MasterSexcellent.
He got jumped by Sat's elite team, he owned them all.
This was much more impressing than those paper guards.Sat pounched him dead in the grill, he didn't even flinch.
Originally posted by Mr. SlippyfistBecause Fury definitely isn't at Jaspers beating levels going by forum rules in this thread... in fact, he'd be at "I just got my head ripped off and was owned by a chick" levels.
I assume you Mean after Captain UK pwned fury. Yeah there were pretty lucky circumstances their. The fury was VERY VERY VERY Weak after fighting and killing Jaspers.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Like I said, "why?".Following your logic, Fury should kill him in the first shot.
So, why would Hulk last a second?
I don't see how following my logic leads one to believe I think Fury one shots him.
My thought is simple. Fury wins in both cases.
Obviously after the upgrade, he would win far quicker.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Uh-huh...
Right.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Die by Sword.
Yea well, unfortunately those Furys in "Die by the Sword" are not like classic Fury,
and as you know, even the first page of "Die by the Sword" #3 says so:
"One wears the Face & Form & memories of James Jaspers,
his companions wear the Form ... of the entity called Fury,
Neither of them is precisely what they seem,
but that revelation is for another time"
.............................................................................................................
Let's not compare the two shall we, until further info is released.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
But her power is omniversal (responding to this basically).
We know her touch can reel you consciousness across creation and back.
So in that respect, yea.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
And right there, she fired blasts, and helped Brian put Fury down through the ground.I'm curious as to why she's being called omniversal, if she isn't "scattering brains".
Oh I see, you thought I was sayin she was exercising omniversal power cause she's in the scene,
nah, I'm just giving her, her do respect, if that confused, my bad.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Anyway, was Fury not taken down by those beings?Would doing what those heroes did to Fury not count as being "beat"?
I always thought "beat" was when you can't get back up.
But I guess I'll give you that one, perhaps per forum rules it would count as a loss.
Originally posted by Mr. SlippyfistWhen?
Because the only time she exercised her "omniversal" power, was when she tried to scatter Fury's brains.
What have her beams done to exercise omniversal power?
That's what I said.
And I never said her beams have omniversal power.
I'll look into how potent her beams are, I can assure you.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Brian was attacked on the same page Scatts was... but later in the page.
Later in the page Fury nothing more happened to Brian.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Well, he only b*tchslapped Scats and stomped on her head...
As compared to being elbowed in the guy, punched across the chin, and then smashed into the ground...
Brian's beating seemed worse...
One of those "b*tchslaps" killed Oxo,
Imo, there's not much of a difference.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
So... Brian is/was tougher than Saturnyne who is under my understanding... omniversal. Am I correct?
Omniversal in was respect?
Saturnyne can't wave a hand and sunder Universes, or even a universe.
In fact, Sat has no real powers at all:
Her thing is all Tech.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
If I am, then that is my main point.Brian... who is about Wonderman level, is tougher than an omniversal being... imagine that.
If you knew about Saturnyne,
you wouldn't be using this silly sarcasm b.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Sexcellent.
This was actually funny. 🙂
Foundsit.
Originally posted by Mr MasterWell, it sounded like you meant that Hulk wouldn't put up any fight against Fury.
I don't see how following my logic leads one to believe I think Fury one shots him.My thought is simple. Fury wins in both cases.
Obviously after the upgrade, he would win far quicker.
Like we've seen the sort of stuff Hulk has taken, but what exactly has Fury done that makes me believe he can easily beat Hulk (besides the obvious of course, do I need to extend on this, because I feel like I'll have to end up explaining what I meant anyway...)?
Originally posted by Mr MasterShouldn't we also have to wait until 'Die by Sword' ends before you can pass that erroneous scan off as fact?
Yea well, unfortunately those Furys in "Die by the Sword" are not like classic Fury,
and as you know, even the first page of "Die by the Sword" #3 says so:"One wears the Face & Form & memories of James Jaspers,
his companions wear the Form ... of the entity called Fury,[B]Neither of them is precisely what they seem
,but that revelation is for another time"
.............................................................................................................Let's not compare the two shall we, until further info is released.[/B]
Unfortunately, it works both ways. 😬
Also, I'm not saying the scan is right or wrong... but right now, we are led to believe that that is Jaspers, and that is Fury... Is it wrong to follow that?
And if I'm led to believe that both are the real deal, I'd rather follow that, then an implication. 😬
Of course, the implication could be right of course, and it wouldn't matter much to me. 🙂
Originally posted by Mr Master
Oh I see, you thought I was sayin she was exercising omniversal power cause she's in the scene,
nah, I'm just giving her, her do respect, if that confused, my bad.
"Heck, Fascination/Scatterbrain (Omniversal power) plays the biggest role in the attack:"
Certainly lead me to believe her beams were omniversal...
Originally posted by Mr MasterSo, you thought "beat" was either killed, or paralyzed (can't get up)? Um...
I always thought "beat" was when you can't get back up.But I guess I'll give you that one, perhaps per forum rules it would count as a loss.
Originally posted by Mr MasterWell, you said that Scatterbrain did the most, and Fury stood up to omniversal power when she attacked with others...
That's what I said.And I never said her beams have omniversal power.
I'll look into how potent her beams are, I can assure you.
Certainly would lead most to believe she's omniversal...
Originally posted by Mr MasterEh?
Later in the page Fury nothing more happened to Brian.
Originally posted by Mr MasterSo, a backhand slap basically is not much different than a swing?
One of those "b*tchslaps" killed Oxo,Imo, there's not much of a difference.
Originally posted by Mr MasterJust going by what she is considered.
Omniversal in was respect?Saturnyne can't wave a hand and sunder Universes, or even a universe.
In fact, Sat has no real powers at all:
Her thing is all Tech.
Roma's Omniversal, and I've never seen her destroy a universe with the wave of her hand. Baring Celestial Nullifier.
So, power makes one Omniversal?
Because if you can tell, I really care little about how powerful a character has to be to earn it's rank.
Also, is Sat considered Omniversal, or not? Because in comics...
