Classic MM vs. CURRENT LT · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

nvrbeenwthagirl Restricted

Originally posted by Kutulu
So Bush is a king now? 😕

Um. I used two kings for my analogy. When talking about FIGHTING. I used bush in my analogy about growth in power. Kandy used kerry when Talking about FIGHTING. Quan says to use two dictators when talking about FIGHTING. I did something like that with two Kings. Not kerry. That was kandy. Keep up. And stop looking for ways to sock and troll and you can't even pay attention correctly.

Mr Master Junior Member

Classic MM, FTW, in a stomp.

nvrbeenwthagirl Restricted

Originally posted by Mr Master
Classic MM, FTW, in a stomp.

You always say that. It's bullshit. Un supported by anything but your own loopy way. But Let me present you with a problem. IN 84 There was nothing outside of the multiverse but the beyonder's wrealm correct? now if you say the lt hasn't grown in power that would mean he actually had power over the beyonder wrealm since the beyonder wrealm was everything But the multiverse which is now the omniverse. Now in 84 the LT had never shown anything but multiversal power. currently he's shown holding two megaverses in his hand. Now how could classic mm be more poweful than a being who can actually hold two mega verses in his hand? The megaverses didn't exist back then. So the lT didn't have authority or power over them. now that they do exist, it would seem that the lt's powers has grown to include them and indeed the omniverse. There is no way to get around this. You just are a classic MM and beyonder FANATIC and refuse to see the folly of your ways. And guess what, others agree with me. they pm me all of the time. They are just afraid of your rediculous scan posting and ranting until people relent and let you have your way.

Erik-Lensherr "The devil made me do it"

I find it useless to discuss comics characters that were retconned into not being that powerfull ever. 😬

kevdude The Hooded Man

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
I find it useless to discuss comics characters that were retconned into not being that powerfull ever. 😬

I agree, why debate retconned characters when thats not the real them?? Pretty silly 😮‍💨

Creshosk Senior Member

It does rather ignore the concept of the retcon doesn't it?

To argue one side or the other would to be to ignore the stipulations of the match.

Classic MM was second to TOAA.
Current LT is second to TOAA

Which is greater? 2 or 2?

King Kandy Senior Member

Someones power as an individual =/= their authority.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by King Kandy
Someones power as an individual =/= their authority.

Concerning the Battlefield
Unless otherwise stated by the thread originator, the standard distance between combatants will be .5 kilometers in line of sight at the onset of battle, and there will be an implied "buzz" to signify the onset of battle. It will be assumed combatants are primed to go at the gun.
Also, all characters, regardless of where the fight takes place, or what universe/medium they are native to, will have full access to their abilities at optimum efficiency as they are depicted in their native universes. It will be assumed that each character fights as they are normally presented regardless of battle locale. This means that, for example, Flash will in fact have SpeedForce abilities if the battle took place in Marvel Manhattan. Battles will always take place on an assumed equal playing field.

King Kandy Senior Member

Exactly. They fight on nuetral ground, and LT's universes can't protect him in this fight.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by King Kandy
Exactly. They fight on nuetral ground, and LT's universes can't protect him in this fight.

Okay since the underlining and italics were missed lets try this again:

"Also, all characters, regardless of where the fight takes place, or what universe/medium they are native to, will have full access to their abilities at optimum efficiency as they are depicted in their native universes."

Air Legend Moderat0r

Originally posted by Creshosk
It does rather ignore the concept of the retcon doesn't it?
To argue one side or the other would to be to ignore the stipulations of the match.
Classic MM was second to TOAA.
Current LT is second to TOAA
Which is greater? 2 or 2?

The only difference between the current LT and the LT is the word "current" in front of it (something nvr likes to do). The LT was never retconned and MM was greater than LT before the retcon, therefore, Classic MM wins.

nvrbeenwthagirl Restricted

Originally posted by Air Legend
The only difference between the current LT and the LT is the word "current" in front of it (something nvr likes to do). The LT was never retconned and MM was greater than LT before the retcon, therefore, Classic MM wins.

Obviously you didn't get what creshook was trying to illustrate. You probably wouldn't. It's for the intelligent.

starlock Team Authority

LT for the win

celestialdemon Down from the Upside

Classic MM wins.

King Kandy Senior Member

Originally posted by Creshosk
Okay since the underlining and italics were missed lets try this again:
"Also, all characters, regardless of where the fight takes place, or what universe/medium they are native to, will have full access to their abilities at optimum efficiency as they are depicted in their native universes."

That's right. And he has full access to HIS powers, not "The powers of his underlings."

If I made a thread "George Bush vs. John Kerry in a boxing match", you couldn't say "Bush has an army, so he wins" because it's JUST him.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by King Kandy
That's right. And he has full access to HIS powers, not "The powers of his underlings."
If I made a thread "George Bush vs. John Kerry in a boxing match", you couldn't say "Bush has an army, so he wins" because it's JUST him.

Do you realize what "His powers" means?

What you're doing would be tatamount to denying a summoner, that which they summon. Because clearly the abilities of the summoner are not the ability of the summoned.

If his power is derived from other beings, they'd still get that power in these matches. Flash's power is derived from the speedforce. regardless of the setiing he still gets access to the speed force.

If LT's powers are derived from his underlings [tone=singsong]guess what...

That's right...[/tone]

2=2

King Kandy Senior Member

And... I've yet to see proof that his powers are dependant on his authority.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by King Kandy
And... I've yet to see proof that his powers are dependant on his authority.

Then why are you arguing about it?

It doesn't matter what the source of his powers are... most likely being TOAA anyway... but he gets them.

Air Legend Moderat0r

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Obviously you didn't get what creshook was trying to illustrate. You probably wouldn't. It's for the intelligent.

His point is moot. He said Classic MM was second to TOAA back then and that LT is second to TOAA now. That is absolutely false. MM was the second most powerful being in Marvel back then, Beyonder was the most powerful. There was no mention of TOAA back then. So his laughable 2=2 equation "fails".

nvrbeenwthagirl Restricted

Originally posted by Air Legend
His point is moot. He said Classic MM was second to TOAA back then and that LT is second to TOAA now. That is absolutely false. MM was the second most powerful being in Marvel back then, Beyonder was the most powerful. There was no mention of TOAA back then. So his laughable 2=2 equation "fails".

NOw you question Cresh? One of the best posters here? You should hang your head in shame. IN the manner that you do? So rude.