Superman is an 100 in strength.

Started by Silent Master24 pages

Originally posted by Silent Master
You do know that Jurgens said that he was joking when he said that, right?

http://www.comicboards.com/superman/view.php?trd=040224024110

http://www.comicboards.com/thor/view.php?trd=040223201106

http://www.comicboards.com/thor/view.php?rpl=040224035208

Originally posted by Silent Master
according to the interviewers, Dan never hinted that he was joking. Sorry bud. I'm saying what they said in the interview. Please spare me what you want it to say. Becuz the interiview I posted says that he didn't joke at all and they stand behind thier interview.

http://www.comicboards.com/thor/view.php?rpl=040224035208
This really sums it up. Now get the **** outta here.
Dan took back his statement after controversy. Niggas do that shit all of the time. Don't try to make me out to be a liar when I know what the **** I'm talking about.

I'm confused after reading the interview, as to what the follow-up with Dan Jurgens implies here:
http://www.comicboards.com/thor/view.php?trd=040223201106

Note I am not siding with anybody here, I'm just looking for clarification:

Posted by Dan Jurgens on Monday, February 23 2004 at 20:11:06 GMT

After numerous e-mails from friends pointing to a minor firestorm of sorts regarding my comments relating to the power levels of Thor and Superman, I thought some clarity might help.

Yes, in the exchange, I was asked if Superman was a million times more powerful than Thor. I said yes.

I also chuckled as I said it, a very important part of the response that did not translate into print. I don't blame Rich as he gave me the chance to edit the interview. Quite frankly, it never occurred to me that anyone would seriously think that statement was an accurate representation of my belief on the matter.

So... we screwed up.

Superman is NOT a million times more powerful than Thor. In my book, he is probably not even twice as powerful as Thor. Superman has more expansive powers than Thor, IMO, thanks to his vision powers, etc.

I also think they fight quite differently. Thor tends to be more of a brawny reactionary type, while Superman probably fights with a more strategic approach. Thor is more likely to cut loose with the full measure of his powers as he does not have the "dampers" on that power that Superman was raised with. Both qualities can be an advantage or disadvantage, depending on the circumstances.

If they fought ten times, neither would win all ten, or even seven, eight or nine battles, for that matter. Not anymore than the Miami Dolphins would beat the Jets ten games out of ten.

I apologize for any confusion.

DJ

He didn't take anything back, he explained his comment.

Besides, you'll also notice that in that interview he said Superman would lose to his Thor, that is hardly something he'd say if he really thought Superman was millions of times more powerful.

Originally posted by Silent Master
He didn't take anything back, he explained his comment.

Besides, you'll also notice that in that interview he said Superman would lose to his Thor, that is hardly something he'd say if he really thought Superman was millions of times more powerful.

I thought he was saying that Superman would lose due to his slight weakness to magic? But yeah, good point.

Originally posted by Silent Master
He didn't take anything back, he explained his comment.

Besides, you'll also notice that in that interview he said Superman would lose to his Thor, that is hardly something he'd say if he really thought Superman was millions of times more powerful.

He said Superman would lose to Thor becuz of Magic. He also said Odin was planetary lvl. So shut up. You said I was a liar and I wasn't. The shit hit the fan and Higher powers made dan recant. He didn't even recant well. Of course he believes Superman to be millions of times stronger than thor if He only thinks Odin is planetary. Superman has shown more power than planetary. If you were really that intelligent, you'd of picked up on that. Instead you want to try and make yourself be someone important enough for me to lie to? LMAO. 😆

It's actually an interesting interview, I found the following comment amusing:

RC: So, in your opinion, if Darkseid fought Doomsday without employing technology and strategy, Doomsday would win every time?

DAN JURGENS: Yes. Right.

Originally posted by Kutulu
I thought he was saying that Superman would lose due to his slight weakness to magic? But yeah, good point.

He did mention magic as the reason, but a weaknss to magic shouldn't matter if Superman was really millions of times more powerful.

DAN JURGENS: No . . . not even possible. Even if you bring back Thor to his basic self, the Thor of issue one of my run, he would beat Superman.

Originally posted by Kutulu
I thought he was saying that Superman would lose due to his slight weakness to magic? But yeah, good point.

That is what he was saying. Check it, he also says Odin is planetary lvl.

Odin>>>Thor. That also means that Superman would be millions of times more powerful since Superman is more powerful than planetary lvl. Dan meant what he said. He was backtracking due to higher powers.

Originally posted by Kutulu
It's actually an interesting interview, I found the following comment amusing:

We've already talked about that. dan goes on to say that Superman and Doomsday are the same lvl in strength, but In the story he has Superman amped and still getting his ass kicked.

Originally posted by Silent Master
He did mention magic as the reason, but a weaknss to magic shouldn't matter if Superman was really millions of times more powerful.

DAN JURGENS: No . . . not even possible. Even if you bring back Thor to his basic self, the Thor of issue one of my run, he would beat Superman.

HIs thor had the odin force did he not?

I said you were a liar because you are, you claimed he was forced to recant when the truth is that he merely explained his comments, at no point did he say or even imply that he was forced to do so.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
HIs thor had the odin force did he not?

Not in issue one of his run.

DAN JURGENS: No . . . not even possible. Even if you bring back Thor to his basic self, the Thor of issue one of my run, he would beat Superman.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I said you were a liar because you are, you claimed he was forced to recant when the truth is that he merely explained his comments, at no point did he say or even imply that he was forced to do so.

I'd say you are an idiot if you dont' think marvel made him recant that statement. Given the fact that all evidence points to him actually believing what he said. or did you miss the part where he said odin was only planetary lvl. Where does that put thor? And do you realize how powerful Superman is? certainly beyond planetary. So am I liar or are you just too dimwitted to look at the facts?

Fan outrage means unhappy marvel.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Not in issue one of his run.

DAN JURGENS: No . . . not even possible. Even if you bring back Thor to his basic self, the Thor of issue one of my run, he would beat Superman.

Dont get all riled up. Some people make things up. If thse people cannot provide proof just laugh it off.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Dont get all riled up. Some people make things up. If thse people cannot provide proof just laugh it off.

shut the **** up. I just posted the interview. Why don't you read it instead of trolling. as a matter of fact. i'm reporting you for trolling and flaming.

There is no evidence that he was being serious when he made the million of times smore powerful comment.

In fact he has flat out stated that it was a joke.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
shut the **** up. I just posted the interview. Why don't you read it instead of trolling. as a matter of fact. i'm reporting you for trolling and flaming.
Report me go ahead. Just remmeber that next time you bash. Im fine with that I have said. I caught you in a lie the other day, anyways.

Originally posted by Silent Master
There is no evidence that he was being serious when he made the million of times smore powerful comment.

In fact he has flat out stated that it was a joke.

And yet he says odin is only planetary lvl. So what would that make thor? he didn't recant his statement about odin. Only an idiot would think he was joking. I have pwned you and made you look like a fool. Becuz that is what you tried to do to me. anyone with half a brain can see that he was serious and that fan outrage made the higher powers upset. now i don't appreciate you calling me a liar. You should be calling me smart for being able to look at all of the events and put two and two together and come up with four. you came up with 3. you were way off. I do not like you. I don't like people calling me a liar and when I show my stance, you just completely ignore the evidence.