Superman is an 100 in strength.

Originally posted by roughrider
You remember back when Mongul was considered stronger than Pre-Crisis Superman? And Doomsday at his best, is considered even stronger than the current Post-Crisis one? And they get these labels by their creators and DC editors WITHOUT moving a planet. Why?

Answer: Superman is using a different power when moving a giant object while flying - extending his telekinetic field that allows him flight - so it's not an act of strength and cannot be considered a strength feat. He seems to have a large number of equal opponents when it's fist to fist.

That is completely unfouded and completely theoretical.

Superman uses his bioelectric aura to hold objects together,
not to lift them.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Yes.
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Just to be clear, I posted that Dan was joking when made the millions of times more powerful comment.

As you can see, I then posted links to Dan saying that he was joking when he made that comment.
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You then claimed Dan wasn’t joking and that Marvel forced him to recant.

As of yet, you have provided no proof to back this up

You think marvel would want dan to say, marvel is forcing me to recant. Are you really that slow on the uptake? The evidence of the interview itself and what the interviewer says about dan's recant is all I need. Now go chew bricks. I gave my reason's why I said what I said, which wasn't a lie. That you look a fool is not my problem. No go hide under a rug or something.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
no. My pic is in the members pic thread.

Checked through the entire pics thread, didn't see a post by you.

Originally posted by roughrider
You remember back when Mongul was considered stronger than Pre-Crisis Superman? And Doomsday at his best, is considered even stronger than the current Post-Crisis one? And they get these labels by their creators and DC editors WITHOUT moving a planet. Why?

Answer: Superman is using a different power when moving a giant object while flying - extending his telekinetic field that allows him flight - so it's not an act of strength and cannot be considered a strength feat. He seems to have a large number of equal opponents when it's fist to fist.

That was a john byrne retconn which has since recently been retconned out. And it wasn't tk, it was just a field to hold stuff together.

Thank you for admitting you have no actual proof that Marvel forced him to recant and were therefore lying when you claimed it.

BTW, when it comes to what Dan meant, Dan >>>>>> someone else.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Thank you for admitting you have no actual proof that Marvel forced him to recant and were therefore lying when you claimed it.

BTW, when it comes to what Dan meant, Dan >>>>>> someone else.

Originally posted by Sirius77
That is completely unfouded and completely theoretical.

Superman uses his bioelectric aura to hold objects together,
not to lift them.

It's the aura that allows him to fly, isn't it? By force of will, he's extending it to other objects while in flight.

What the biggest thing he ever lifted or moved when he wasn't using flight? Certainly not something planet-sized.

Originally posted by roughrider
It's the aura that allows him to fly, isn't it? By force of will, he's extending it to other objects while in flight.

What the biggest thing he ever lifted or moved when he wasn't using flight? Certainly not something planet-sized.

NO. That theory was reconned out. Desaad theorizes that superman flies by manipulating space time and pulls himself.

I never claimed that he didn't say that he viewed Odin as planetary level or that Thor would win due to magic, however neither of the statement is proof that he was serious about Superman being millions of times more powerful.

Again, he flat out said that he was joking about that part and that Superman wasn’t millions of times more powerful, also, you have as yet posted no proof that he was lying or was forced to recant.

Originally posted by roughrider
It's the aura that allows him to fly, isn't it? By force of will, he's extending it to other objects while in flight.

What the biggest thing he ever lifted or moved when he wasn't using flight? Certainly not something planet-sized.

How can you not be flying and move a planet? If you count the wheels of the mageddon warhead. They were the size of planets at least.

But it doesn't matter, it has been stated that the only thing that he uses his bioelectric aura for other than durability is holding large objects together.

Also, his bioelectric aura has nothing to do with flight. Luthor said that it is a manipulation of space.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I never claimed that he didn't say that he viewed Odin as planetary level or that Thor would win due to magic, however neither of the statement is proof that he was serious about Superman being millions of times more powerful.

Again, he flat out said that he was joking about that part and that Superman wasn’t millions of times more powerful, also, you have as yet posted no proof that he was lying or was forced to recant.

The interviewer states that Dan had three opportunities to make it clear what he meant. The interview then goes on to state that he listened to the tape to make sure and dan didnt' not laugh. Dan went on to Say it was just a misunderstanding. He never says that the interviewer is lying. Given the fact that he puts odin's power lvl so low, and then we all know Odin>>Thor, that would mean that he meant what he said. He also says earlier in the same interview that Thor beat all of those guys only becuz of the odin power. Please don't hate on me becuz I used decutive reasoning skills and had previously researched the topic and came up with a reasonable conclusion and you didn't. That you can only take things at face value without reading the context is not my concern.

Originally posted by Sirius77
How can you not be flying and move a planet? If you count the wheels of the mageddon warhead. They were the size of planets at least.

Exactly my point. He has to be in flight for such a feat to occur.
This is chicken-and-egg theory still, but it would help to explain why non-flyers like Mongul, Doomsday, Darkseid, Orion, Thanos & Hulk are constantly propped - by writers & editors, not just fans - to be his equal in strength, if not superior.

Originally posted by roughrider
Exactly my point. He has to be in flight for such a feat to occur.
This is chicken-and-egg theory still, but it would help to explain why non-flyers like Mongul, Doomsday, Darkseid, Orion, Thanos & Hulk are constantly propped - by writers & editors, not just fans - to be his equal in strength, if not superior.

Superman moved the wheels of mageddon. Mageddon was bigger than the solar system. He's also matched lobo in strength who has picked up a box that weighted the entire weight of the universe.

Originally posted by roughrider
Exactly my point. He has to be in flight for such a feat to occur.
This is chicken-and-egg theory still, but it would help to explain why non-flyers like Mongul, Doomsday, Darkseid, Orion, Thanos & Hulk are constantly propped - by writers & editors, not just fans - to be his equal in strength, if not superior.

So then are you saying that EVERY character that has ever moved a planet did so without the use of physical strength?

Originally posted by Sirius77
So then are you saying that EVERY character that has ever moved a planet did so without the use of physical strength?

I think so. Putting aside the actual weight, it's impossible for raw strength to move it without busting right through the crust, destroying all life on it by the shifting, you name it. A Celestial can just point a finger at a planet and shift it, taking control of it's gravitational field or whatever unnamed power they have, or Hal Jordan/Spectre using power granted by The Presence to push the two earths apart in Avengers/JLA, and on and on...

If the mass of a planet can be condensed into something smaller, like Thor picking up part of the Midgard Serpent, or All Star Superman picking up a key with the mass of a white dwarf star - that could be a showing of strength, I believe.

Originally posted by roughrider
I think so. Putting aside the actual weight, it's impossible for raw strength to move it without busting right through the crust, destroying all life on it by the shifting, you name it. A Celestial can just point a finger at a planet and shift it, taking control of it's gravitational field or whatever unnamed power they have, or Hal Jordan/Spectre using power granted by The Presence to push the two earths apart in Avengers/JLA, and on and on...

If the mass of a planet can be condensed into something smaller, like Thor picking up part of the Midgard Serpent, or All Star Superman picking up a key with the mass of a white dwarf star - that could be a showing of strength, I believe.

Originally posted by roughrider
I think so. Putting aside the actual weight, it's impossible for raw strength to move it without busting right through the crust, destroying all life on it by the shifting, you name it. A Celestial can just point a finger at a planet and shift it, taking control of it's gravitational field or whatever unnamed power they have, or Hal Jordan/Spectre using power granted by The Presence to push the two earths apart in Avengers/JLA, and on and on...

If the mass of a planet can be condensed into something smaller, like Thor picking up part of the Midgard Serpent, or All Star Superman picking up a key with the mass of a white dwarf star - that could be a showing of strength, I believe.

Superman just holds the planet together with his beo. Nothing more nothing less. He uses raw strength for everything else.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The interviewer states

I'm stopping you right here. Dan states he was joking, end of argument.

Again, you have yet to post any proof that he was lying or that Marvel forced him to recant as you claimed, IOW, you lied.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I'm stopping you right here. Dan states he was joking, end of argument.

Again, you have yet to post any proof that he was lying or that Marvel forced him to recant as you claimed, IOW, you lied.

I'm so over you lol. The interviewer states that DAN had three opportunities to change what was said and how it was presented. He says that dan did not laugh on the tape. Now if you say I lied one more time, I'll report every instance of you insulting me. I'm pretty much over you lol. I have proven my case and used excellent deductive and reasoning skills to do it. It doesn't concern me that you are salty over it. Please get over yourself and find something else to occupy your time.