Molecule Man/Beyonder vs Living Tribunal/Spectre

Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually you can't re-create one Omniverse and leave the other out,
when their trying to place both companies in one Omniverse.

Precisely, which is why its silly.

For now, no allusion of that being possible.

they can't be from the same omniverse when the premise of the story was that the universes where making each other sick. Becuz they were so much unalike. when the magus merged universes, they weren't killing each other.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I'm sure Roma could erase the part of the omniverse that was marvels since thier life essence was forged in the crystal thingy. But the source is the life force of the DC. Unless Roma has control over the source, (NOT), then she can't erase the dc universes.

Your trying to ignore the fact that its not "part of the omniverse"

But any Universe in the entire Omniverse:

"In All the Omniverse there is NOT ONE Universe
that I cannot Destroy at the Touch of a Switch"

Let's not spin it yall, it is a fact.

So again,

this means that Roma (amongst others) can erase DC.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually you can't re-create one Omniverse and leave the other out,
when their trying to place both companies in one Omniverse.

It didn't say the same omniverse, and it didn't say two omniverses, for all we know tere might be a third omniverse where the Marvel/DC crossover's take place...

Beyond whats stated on panel is just speculation and nothing more.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Your trying to ignore the fact that its not "part of the omniverse"

But any Universe in the entire Omniverse:

"In All the Omniverse there is NOT ONE Universe
that I cannot Destroy at the Touch of a Switch"

Let's not spin it yall, it is a fact.

So again,

this means that Roma (amongst others) can erase DC.

No. Becuz She cannot destroy that which the source protects. Source>>>>Roma. As a matter of fact, she can't even destroy every universe in marvel. Cuz MJJ can stop her cold. Source>>>>>>>MJJ

Was Roma shown before the Cross over or after??? 😕

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The Source is the life force of the DCU.
So roma won't be erasing any of those universes.
Nice try tho.

Actually if the Source's life-force is part of the same Omniverse as Marvel's
then it too is just a Crystal at the disposal of the Omniversal guardians.

According to JLA/Avengers ... not me.

I would never accept that nonsense.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And the spectre would kill her for even trying. You are reaching. Aren't you.

No he can't,
if he's part of the same Omniverse as Roma,
he has to concede to whatever she wishes to do as Omniversal guardian.

She guards his reality too according to what you believe to be canon. 🙂

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And master just like you dont' like me quoting you, don't ****ing ever tell me what I"m doing. I hate that shit. I haven't conceded to any of your wankey theories.

Actually you did concede, you just didn't realize it.

If Marvel & DC are part of the same Omniverse,
Roma (amongst others) can erase DC period.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Especially since The DCU's life blood is the source. Not roma's crystal. [/B]

If the DCu's life blood is part of the same Omniverse as Marvel's,
then the Source's life-line is connected to a Crystal owned by Roma.

This is ofcourse only if we consider JLA/Avengers canon.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually if the Source's life-force is part of the Omniverse,'
then it too is just a Crystal at the disposal of the Omniversal guardians.

According to JLA/Avengers ... not me.

I would never accept that nonsense.

No he can't,
if he's part of the same Omniverse as Roma,
he has to concede to whatever she wishes to do as Omniversal guardian.

She guards his reality too according to what you believe to be canon. 🙂

Actually you did concede, you just didn't realize it.

If Marvel & DC are part of the same Omniverse,
Roma (amongst others) can erase DC period.

If the DCu's life blood is part of the same Omniverse as Marvel's,
then the Source's life-line is connected to a Crystal owned by Roma.

This is ofcourse only if we consider JLA/Avengers canon.

You obviously don't understand the source. The source isn't just the life source. It is abeing greater than the spectre. Roma won't be obliterating any parts of it. You lose. You don't have to accept anything. You NEVER do. i've proven that the two aren't both under roma's spell. Thier life forces even make each other sick. You only wish the event to not be cannon becuz Krona is shown over those items of power. And Spectre over them and krona. The story is cannon. Sorry you that. It's fact. And roma cannot erase any dcu universes, as of now those realities are seperated on panel by the Spectre. If you remember during the story, it starts out with the two realities already merged to some degree. hence the cross overs of various villians. they become truly seperated once again later on.

Hey Mr M. Do you have any evidence that they were refering to the same OMNIVERSE?

Or is all this just speculatory spin based off your interpritation of a few words?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Hey Mr M. Do you have any evidence that they were refering to the same OMNIVERSE?

Or is all this just speculatory spin based off your interpritation of a few words?

Need you ask?

Originally posted by Creshosk
They didn't say that they were in the same omniverse.
they only said that the occupy the same space.

I don't see the difference Cresh.
We know they mean the same Omniverse.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Now echnically the reality that it took place in could be on the border overlap of the two omniverses
(Yeah I know its stupid sounding but the companies chose to pervert the word).

Interesting observation but I have to disagree.

Because Krona actually supposedly entered each company separately
before he began his mission to merge them.

So when Polemacus is illustrated, it's supposed to be in Marvel,
and when Qward is illustrated, it's supposed to be in DC.

Originally posted by Creshosk
It didn't say the same omniverse, and it didn't say two omniverses,
for all we know tere might be a third omniverse
where the Marvel/DC crossover's take place...

It said they "occupy the same Space"
That's a blatant ceritfication that they are within the same Omniverse imo.

And I never heard of a third Omniverse,
but it's a cool idea. (that would be better actually)

Originally posted by Creshosk
Beyond whats stated on panel is just speculation and nothing more. [/B]

I don't believe the statements made in those scans leaves room for speculation.

Come on yall, they F'd up, let's not take this company-crossover seriously and move on.

Anybody going to answer my question? lol. And The Source is suppose to be the Source of everything, its outside watching everything it created.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Hey Mr M. Do you have any evidence that they were refering to the same OMNIVERSE?

This is Polemacus (a Universe in Marvel)

This is Qward (a Universe in DC)

according to JLA/Avengers they are part of the same Omniverse:

"Another Universe occupying the same Space"

Originally posted by Creshosk
Or is all this just speculatory spin based off your interpritation of a few words? [/B]

"speculatory spin based off your interpritation?"

Nah, just what is stated clearly and definitively above in the scans.

But if you honestly believe that means something other,
fine, as you wish. 🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master
This is Polemacus (a Universe in Marvel)

This is Qward (a Universe in DC)

according to JLA/Avengers they are part of the same Omniverse:

"[B]Another Universe occupying the same Space"

"speculatory spin based off your interpritation?"

Nah, just what is stated clearly and definitively above in the scans.

But if you honestly believe that means something other,
fine, as you wish. 🙂 [/B]

No where does it say they are part of the same omniverse. Your own oppinion. And since roma only has power over the marvel omniverse, your opinion means not too much in this matter. Sorry. The story also says that krona deliberatly weakened the seperation of the realities. We all know later on that it was the bringing together of the two realities that was the weakening. Ooops. bet you didnt' know that did you. Thus krona brought the two realities together, before beginning to destroy them. As I just sat here and read the entire series.

Originally posted by kevdude
Was Roma shown before the Cross over or after???

If you mean what came first,

Roma's been around since the early 80's,
far before JLA/Avengers.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I don't see the difference Cresh.
We know they mean the same Omniverse.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Interesting observation but I have to disagree.

Because Krona actually supposedly entered each company separately
before he began his mission to merge them.

So when Polemacus is illustrated, it's supposed to be in Marvel,
and when Qward is illustrated, it's supposed to be in DC.

Originally posted by Mr Master
It said they "occupy the same Space"
That's a blatant ceritfication that they are within the same Omniverse imo.

Originally posted by Mr Master
And I never heard of a third Omniverse,
but it's a cool idea. (that would be better actually)

Originally posted by Mr Master
I don't believe the statements made in those scans leaves room for speculation.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Come on yall, they F'd up, let's not take this company-crossover seriously and move on.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
No where does it say they are part of the same omniverse. Your own oppinion. And since roma only has power over the marvel omniverse, your opinion means not too much in this matter. Sorry. The story also says that krona deliberatly weakened the seperation of the realities. We all know later on that it was the bringing together of the two realities that was the weakening. Ooops. bet you didnt' know that did you. Thus krona brought the two realities together, before beginning to destroy them. As I just sat here and read the entire series.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
No where does it say they are part of the same omniverse. Your own oppinion.

Originally posted by Mr Master
This is Polemacus (a Universe in Marvel)

This is Qward (a Universe in DC)

according to JLA/Avengers they are part of the same Omniverse:

"Another Universe occupying the same Space"

Now your azz, is definitely using unsupported opinions,
in light of the evidence.

Do what you do friend.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And since roma only has power over the marvel omniverse,
your opinion means not too much in this matter. Sorry.

Roma, and others, have power over the entire Omniverse,

and if DC is part of that Omniverse,
then DC is subject to the influence of Roma and others.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The story also says that krona deliberatly weakened the seperation of the realities. We all know later on that it was the bringing together of the two realities that was the weakening. Ooops. bet you didnt' know that did you. Thus krona brought the two realities together, before beginning to destroy them.
As I just sat here and read the entire series.

This has absolutely nothing to do with DC & Marvel sharing the same Omniverse.
Which is what that garbage cross-over tried to portray.

Again,
it's quite simple,

if DC and Marvel share the same Omniverse,

then Roma and others can erase DC.

Heck Wanda already did, so did the Alien Entity & Thanos and on and on.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Not mine, JLA/Avengers'[]/b]

Originally posted by Mr Master
[B]Now your azz, is definitely using unsupported opinions,
in light of the evidence.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Do what you do friend.

Roma, and others, have power over the entire Omniverse,

Remember that word you choose to omit from our previous discussion on what an omniverse was and how that word is infered?

DC is not Marvel.

Originally posted by Mr Master
and if DC is part of that Omniverse,

Originally posted by Mr Master
then DC is subject to the influence of Roma and others.

This has absolutely nothing to do with DC & Marvel sharing the same Omniverse.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Which is what that garbage cross-over tried to portray.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Again,
it's quite simple,

if DC and Marvel share the same Omniverse,

Originally posted by Mr Master
then Roma and others can erase DC.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Heck Wanda already did, so did the Alien Entity & Thanos and on and on.

Remember our discussion about what an omni verse actually is and how Marvel is misuisng another word?

Originally posted by Creshosk
They didn't say omniverse.

I didn't think they had to, but as you sih.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Doesn't discount them from existing in an overlapse.

Never heard of such a thing, cool idea though.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Your opining and nothing more I'm affraid.

Well according to M theory there's an infinite number of realities so that mmatter can assume all possible form. This leads to questions of where the fanfiction realities take place. the not sanctioned by either company for the story to be told.

But that's all we can do. it didn't say they were in the Marvel Omniverse, thus ginivg Roma domain over them. So it's just speculation to say that it is as there's no real on panel verification.

As you wish.

Originally posted by Creshosk
okay.
Wouldn't be the first time ither company screwed up and told a non-canon story as canon. [/B]

👆

According to the official definition of omniverse, it's all things fiction with in a set Omniverse.