Thanos vs Thor and Superman

Jurgens said Thor had some of the Odinpower during this and since he wrote the comic I'd say he knows

Originally posted by Larceny
Which has no relevance to the point at hand.

A King Thor that was operating at normal level's, and that is canon.

Does it matter if your comfortable with the way he died? No. Does it change the fact that he died? No.

He doesn't, which has been pointed out by Bran. 🙂

You were the one who pointed it out.

Did you feel comfortable with mantis one-shotting Thor? No. Does it change the fact that he was one-shotted? No.

As said, prove that Hulk was at the same levels in the future as he is when we discuss him in threads today.

I'm not sure how you count from where you are from, but the way I see it, bran counted one clean victory and two cheap victories (mountain and cheapshot). Makes no difference though. A win is a win. Insert obligatory smiley.

Originally posted by 123KID
Jurgens said Thor had some of the Odinpower during this and since he wrote the comic I'd say he knows

And this is where reading comics helps.....

i do read comics

but even if i didn't and my IQ was thirty points lower it wouldn't change the fact the WRITER of the comic means more than you and he said Thor had some of the Odinpower

Originally posted by 123KID
i do read comics

but even if i didn't and my IQ was thirty points lower it wouldn't change the fact the WRITER of the comic means more than you and he said Thor had some of the Odinpower

He had the odinforce during the arc, but Strange apparently cut him off from the odinforce.

so he says

but Jurgens, the guy who wrote that comic, says Thor still had some of the Odinforce

well who should i take the word of: Strange or the comic author ?

Originally posted by Ouallada
You were the one who pointed it out.

Did you feel comfortable with mantis one-shotting Thor? No. Does it change the fact that he was one-shotted? No.

As said, prove that Hulk was at the same levels in the future as he is when we discuss him in threads today.

I'm not sure how you count from where you are from, but the way I see it, bran counted one clean victory and two cheap victories (mountain and cheapshot). Makes no difference though. A win is a win. Insert obligatory smiley.

Nope, I stated he had no use of Mjlonir which is quite relevant to the issue and the topic of Thor killing Hulk. You on other hand decided to inform us it was Thor's fault he lost possession of Mjolnir..... which is irrelevant to the point at hand.

I actually don't care, because again, it has no relevance to this thread or the topic at hand.

Were now asked to prove negatives? You my friend made the claim, you my sir prove he wasn't.

Believe what you wish, but Hulk doesn't have more wins. Post every scan of every fight and see for yourself. You made the claim, now produce some evidence. 🙂

Originally posted by 123KID
so he says

but Jurgens, the guy who wrote that comic, says Thor still had some of the Odinforce

But you know, the guy that wrote the comic, wrote that Strange was given an artifact by the Skyfathers of Midgard to suppress Thor's connection with the Odin Power.

and so it did

but not completely

Originally posted by Larceny
Nope, I stated he had no use of Mjlonir which is quite relevant to the issue and the topic of Thor killing Hulk. You on other hand decided to inform us it was Thor's fault he lost possession of Mjolnir..... which is irrelevant to the point at hand.

I actually don't care, because again, it has no relevance to this thread or the topic at hand.

Were now asked to prove negatives? You my friend made the claim, you my sir prove he wasn't.

Believe what you wish, but Hulk doesn't have more wins. Post every scan of every fight and see for yourself. You made the claim, now produce some evidence. 🙂

You brought up the point. I just wanted to make sure it was placed in the proper context. I fail to see how it is irrelevant. I can say that DS finished off the AM, but without placing it in the proper context, we could have some pretty stupid things said. Same thing applies here.

The topic at hand is simply you claiming that Thor > SS based simply on two meetings, without taking context into account (hence my ensuring that we have the correct context above). That debate has lead to me likening Thor killing the Hulk that easily to Mantis one-shotting Thor. I like it as much as you do, the difference being that the former makes possibly even less sense than the latter.

You cannot prove a negative only if the opposite has not been established. I hear that Hulk has a huge respect thread showing off his healing factor, which has worked on much more than an impaled chest. The positive has been proven. Time for you to put your money where your mouth is.

Once again, the fights have been listed. The issues have been listed. I believe a little research is in order for you. Besides, King Thor and the What-if notwithstanding, how many victories do you have? 3-0 to Hulk thus far.

Insert smiley.

Originally posted by 123KID
and so it did

but not completely

Which you have no proof of.

Jurgens' word is more proof than Dr. Strange's word

Originally posted by Ouallada
You brought up the point. I just wanted to make sure it was placed in the proper context. I fail to see how it is irrelevant. I can say that DS finished off the AM, but without placing it in the proper context, we could have some pretty stupid things said. Same thing applies here.

The topic at hand is simply you claiming that Thor > SS based simply on two meetings, without taking context into account (hence my ensuring that we have the correct context above). That debate has lead to me likening Thor killing the Hulk that easily to Mantis one-shotting Thor. I like it as much as you do.

You cannot prove a negative only if the opposite has not been established. I hear that Hulk has a huge respect thread showing off his healing factor, which has worked on much more than an impaled chest. The positive has been proven. Time for you to put your money where your mouth is.

Once again, the fights have been listed. The issues have been listed. I believe a little research is in order for you. Besides, King Thor and the What-if notwithstanding, how many victories do you have? 3-0 to Hulk thus far.

Insert smiley.

Nope it was irrelevant. He didn't have Mjolnir, why he didn't have it was irrelevant as it had no relation to the death of Hulk.

Which he is, and can be discussed in the proper thread. The "Can Thor defeat these two characters thread should suffice". However as long as we talk about Mantis, we must also discuss the "brick". Your choice.

I don't have to prove anything. I made no claim, however you did. That claim being that Hulk wasn't as powerful then as he usually is, something you can't prove. Hence the reason you made the attempt to place the burden of proof on me.

I know what happened, I've read each fight and Hulk hasn't defeated Thor more times than Thor's defeated Hulk, but again, since you made the claim the burden of proof is placed upon you. 🙂

Originally posted by 123KID
Jurgens' word is more proof than Dr. Strange's word

Yet you have no proof.

http://www.comicboards.com/jurgens-rc.php

RC: Take the recent Thor fight against Hulk, Wolverine, Thing and other Marvel characters-wherein Thor absolutely dominates his competition. People want to know . . . how the hell did Thor pull that off? Did he have the Odin-power at the time?

DAN JURGENS: It was still an Odin-powered Thor. It had to be.

Originally posted by 123KID
http://www.comicboards.com/jurgens-rc.php

RC: Take the recent Thor fight against Hulk, Wolverine, Thing and other Marvel characters-wherein Thor absolutely dominates his competition. People want to know . . . how the hell did Thor pull that off? Did he have the Odin-power at the time?

DAN JURGENS: [b]It was still an Odin-powered Thor. It had to be. [/B]

Ok I may be wrong. One more question. In what way did Thor utilize the odin power?

Originally posted by Larceny
Ok I may be wrong. One more question. In what way did Thor utilize the odin power?

He desperately duplicated Superman's uber heat vision to let him kill Wolverine!!111

Originally posted by Red Shift
He desperately duplicated Superman's uber heat vision to let him kill Wolverine!!111

Which happened before the suppression of he Odin power. The Odin Power was negated mid-way through the fight, before the killing of Hulk. 😉

i would imagine the Odinpower increases your strength a bit

Originally posted by 123KID
i would imagine the Odinpower increases your strength a bit

Only if utilized in that manner.