Originally posted by Remindme1. What proof is there he is faster than Chaos?
Sephiroth is faster than Weiss and Chaos, DJ is slow in comparison.Stronger? best feat being?
2. Well...lemme think, slamming people's heads thru walls, being stronger than Heihachi who rips apart Jacks with his bare hands(big robots). Wandering Flame can tell you more, he's the Tekken expert. Or Sado22.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. What proof is there he is faster than Chaos?2. Well...lemme think, slamming people's heads thru walls, being stronger than Heihachi who rips apart Jacks with his bare hands(big robots). Wandering Flame can tell you more, he's the Tekken expert. Or Sado22.
1. Nothing, but Chaos would lose to Sephiroth, that we know is a fact. So Logic tells you that he's on the same speed level. Weiss duel wields, and we Know Sephiroth would beat him to, so we know Sephiroth can move his sword as fast as Weiss both of his.
2. Alright, so effortlessly slicing through buildings doesn't count? Or being as strong as someone who floor'd SIN?
Originally posted by Remindme
1. Nothing, but Chaos would lose to Sephiroth, that we know is a fact. So Logic tells you that he's on the same speed level. Weiss duel wields, and we Know Sephiroth would beat him to, so we know Sephiroth can move his sword as fast as Weiss both of his.
Being able to defeat someone doesn't mean you can move as fast as said person. Just because Weiss and Chaos can move at those speeds doesn't mean Sephiroth can. He can defeat them but that doesn't mean he's as fast as them.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Being able to defeat someone doesn't mean you can move as fast as said person. Just because Weiss and Chaos can move at those speeds doesn't mean Sephiroth can. He can defeat them but that doesn't mean he's as fast as them.
How's he supposed to defeat them if he can't keep up with them.
How's he supposed to even get a hit on them if he isn't as fast?
Originally posted by Remindme
How's he supposed to defeat them if he can't keep up with them.How's he supposed to even get a hit on them if he isn't as fast?
So someone has to be fast to defeat someone? Great logic. (1) There's this thing in the Final Fantasy VII universe called Materia that allows people to use this thing called magic. (2) Just because Sephiroth isn't as fast as Chaos or Weiss doesn't mean he's slow. Sephiroth is fast just not on their level. (3) Sephiroth has this neat little thing where he can teleport. Teleport would help anyone. Need I go on?
Originally posted by ESB -1138
So someone has to be fast to defeat someone? Great logic. (1) There's this thing in the Final Fantasy VII universe called Materia that allows people to use this thing called magic. (2) Just because Sephiroth isn't as fast as Chaos or Weiss doesn't mean he's slow. Sephiroth is fast just not on their level. (3) Sephiroth has this neat little thing where he can teleport. Teleport would help anyone. Need I go on?
1. Sephiroth very rarely uses materia, and i don't recall him having time materia in Clouds Story
2. Sephiroth does need to be near their speed, or else dodging becomes exceptionally easy
3. Teleport is verry handy yes. Except when you opponent is so fast it's very nearly as fast, that sort of takes the shine off.
Originally posted by SHM
Sephiroth don't have teleport. Not in FFVII.And the guys of SE said that nothing is stronger or above him. That includes Chaos and Omega.
When SE states a character is stronger than the other, they are talking about everything. Power, speed, skill, etc.
No, stronger doesn't mean you are the fastest. Sonic is by far a lot faster than Samus Aran but when it comes down to the actual fight Samus will be more than able to defeat Sonic.
Just because Chaos Vincent was able to move fast that doesn't mean Sephiroth can move faster. And saying that the creators said he was stronger than everyone else doesn't mean crap because (A) he has never shown the ability to even move that fast and (B) if he could move that fast the outcome of a certain fight would have been different whether or not he was toying around or not.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
No, stronger doesn't mean you are the fastest.
To the guys of SE it means exactly that(and more). That's what really matters.
Just because Chaos Vincent was able to move fast that doesn't mean Sephiroth can move faster. And saying that the creators said he was stronger than everyone else doesn't mean crap because (A) he has never shown the ability to even move that fast and (B) if he could move that fast the outcome of a certain fight would have been different whether or not he was toying around or not.
Square-Enix's interpretation of the word "strength", is different than yours. We are talking about a quote, where they talk about a character created by them. Because of that, we should use their interpretation of the word, instead of our own.
Way to go, Ladies_Man_666
j/k
You mentioned AC Sephiroth, and by default he should not be able to perform Supernova as he never has.
You didn't mention what version of Devil Jin, though.
May I mention similarities?
1. They both have telekinesis. Devil Jin can explode a speeding mortocycle and choke oppponents from a distance. Sephiroth can collapse a building with his. I would like to post videos, though I'm too lazy.
2. They can fly fast.
3. They can project attacks that cut clean through massive objects, such as skyscrapers. Devil Jin did so in one Tekken 6 trailer; Sephiroth did so in the fight with Genesis.
4. They're both evil, well that's a duh.
5. They're both strong and not weak. Sephiroth can hit Cloud so hard that he goes back quickly and far through a concrete building. Devil Jin threw Heihachi through a concrete wall.
6. Possess massive durability. Devil Jin gets scratched not by an exploding mortocycle. Sephiroth does the same against Genesis' explosive fireballs.
7. They look cool. 313
Alas, as for my honest opinion.
Devil Jin < AC Sephiroth
Upgraded Devil Jin (we should all know who that is) > AC Sephiroth