Devil Jin vs. Sephiroth

Started by Violent2Dope5 pages

Originally posted by Wandering Flame
We should of course go by showings, people.

Cloud being able to beat Loz does not mean he is as fast or faster than him.

Exactly. Loz is much faster than Cloud, yet OVERALL Cloud is stronger, that is what the creators meant when they said Seph was stronger.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Exactly. Loz is much faster than Cloud, yet OVERALL Cloud is stronger, that is what the creators meant when they said Seph was stronger.

No, it's not. When the creators talk about "strength" they are talking about everything, including speed.

Originally posted by SHM
No, it's not. When the creators talk about "strength" they are talking about everything, including speed.
Prove it.

SHM has is right, The creators ment speed, strength, skill, magic blah blah blah.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Sephiroth's durability is not so special actually. Also, Seph is not faster than Chaos until he shows that he is.

I agree, Sephiroth has never shown a impressive about of durability when it comes to getting pwned on.

However.

He has shown almost indestructability to fire.

We have yet to see him out of breath

Originally posted by EvilAngel
SHM has is right, The creators ment speed, strength, skill, magic blah blah blah.
PROVE IT!

Sephiroth never shows how fast really he is cuz he toys around all the time, seeing how fast Loz is, and Loz being just an essence of Sephiroth indicates how fast Sephiroth could be, probably even faster then Loz..

I'd say chopping up giant buildings and canons like paper with one hand effortlessly is a much greater strength feat then anything DJ or Heihachi displayed, not to mention all the other powers Sephiroth has over DJ, like control over the negative lifestream, lifestream was able to disintegrate meteor, and is the source of all energy in FFVII, TK powerful enough to bring down the top of a giant building, and we have yet to see Sephiroths true power still..

I just dont see any way DJ can win this.. his beam would probably be swatted away like Zack's blade beam..

Sephiroth wins this in a stomp.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
PROVE IT!

Okay, Weiss was KNOWN to be Sephiroth's inferior during the days of the war. And he isn't stronger than Sephiroth now either

Genesis is suggested to be on the same power level as Sephiroth lost horribly to Sephiroth in a spar.

No matter how fast or powerful someone strikes became, Sephiroth has always been able to speed up his own to match.

Sephiroth has yet to show any kinds of signs that he's gonig as fast as he can.

Sephiroth is the only character to have spells without the need of materia (Jenova excluded)

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Okay, Weiss was KNOWN to be Sephiroth's inferior during the days of the war. And he isn't stronger than Sephiroth now either

Genesis is suggested to be on the same power level as Sephiroth lost horribly to Sephiroth in a spar.

No matter how fast or powerful someone strikes became, Sephiroth has always been able to speed up his own to match.

Sephiroth has yet to show any kinds of signs that he's gonig as fast as he can.

Sephiroth is the only character to have spells without the need of materia (Jenova excluded)

You didn't prove he is faster than Chaos at all.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Prove it.

An example: There is an interview with Kitase, where he states that Yazoo's bullets couldn't hit Cloud, because Cloud was too strong. He was talking about Cloud's skill and speed obviously, but he used the word "strong" to describe it.
Many people use the word "stronger" to say that a character is better overall than the other. It's easier to use "stronger" instead of "more powerful, physical stronger, faster, more skilled, etc".

Originally posted by SHM
is better overall
Exactly.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Exactly.

That means you accept Seph is as fast as Chaos and Omega then?

Originally posted by SHM
That means you accept Seph is as fast as Chaos and Omega then?
No, better OVERALL.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
No, better OVERALL.

Sorry, but "better overall" doesn't mean "better in everything"? English is not my first lenguage, and I thing I used the wrong word to describe what I meant. 😛

But this is not important. Read the example I gave.

I got it. The japanese interveiw reveals all. The word he uses doesn't mean stronger exactly, apparently it's a word they use to describe a warrior, and it's means better/stronger/skilled/FASTER

Originally posted by EvilAngel
I got it. The japanese interveiw reveals all. The word he uses doesn't mean stronger exactly, apparently it's a word they use to describe a warrior, and it's means better/stronger/skilled/FASTER
No, it doesn't. Til he has a feat to prove it, he can only move as fast as what he has shown.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
I got it. The japanese interveiw reveals all. The word he uses doesn't mean stronger exactly, apparently it's a word they use to describe a warrior, and it's means better/stronger/skilled/FASTER

Exactly.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
No, it doesn't. Til he has a feat to prove it, he can only move as fast as what he has shown.

Don't need to, if it's from an interveiw it is a fact, unless the thread starter wants to disclude them from the debate.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
No, it doesn't.

Yazoo's bullets couldn't hit Cloud, because of Cloud's physical strength then.
Yeah, that really makes sense. 🙄

Originally posted by SHM
Yazoo's bullets couldn't hit Cloud, because of Cloud's physical strength then.
Yeah, that really makes sense. 🙄

How cool would that be though 😆

Originally posted by SHM
Yazoo's bullets couldn't hit Cloud, because of Cloud's physical strength then.
Yeah, that really makes sense. 🙄
Stronger overall smartass. NOTHING even hints Sephiroth can go as fast as Chaos.