Originally posted by Burning thought
then that planet has a problem, kain wants the soul...hes gettin the soul...also what you talking about, its the stream of souls isnt it, so Kain will send it there, or just stick his sword in sephiroth, or have it nearby if he tries to rip it out and imprison it within the blade before Sephiroth can do anything, or he can mind spark him, turning his brain off....
or he could this...or he could do that....or this...etc etc etc
hes has soooo many options, but its likely hell just shield at the same time as launching a time bolt, Sephiroth will pray before turning into the next exhibition in the Nosgoth museum of arts
Sorry BT, i can't let you claim it.
Lifestream is not a soul techincally. In fact it's even stated in FFVII It's just the essence of life.
Kain cannot absord the Lifestream
Originally posted by EvilAngel
Sorry BT, i can't let you claim it.Lifestream is not a soul techincally. In fact it's even stated in FFVII It's just the essence of life.
Kain cannot absord the Lifestream
Kain cannot, the Sword has no limit, it simply drains into it the souls it wants, Kain would just dip the sword into the stream, and surely enough it will be his....
and what do you mean, i thought thats where the dead go? thats basically souls....fancy name, life stream...if its not the soul, then Sephiroth has nothing to stop his soul itself being ripped from him, if he does not even have a soul, then Kains possession will worth wonders
Originally posted by Furion
Kain wouldn't be able to touch Sephiroth with soulreaver due to sephiroth's superior swordplay and I MEAN SUPERIOR SWORD PLAY! PERIOD
rubbish, Kain can teleport instantly, if he doesnt od that, he will dimension warp...hell touch Sephiroth big time, or he could use his TK and freeze him, or use the TK to launch the sword away from him, or into Sephiroth.....
(by touch i ment with his sword....)
So, with exception of KH Sephiroth, this is basically AC Sephiroth vs Kain.
Seph is using Jenova's body/head and by consequence, have all the powers the J-cells grants + the power of Negative Lifestream.
Some of his abilities then:
- Transform parts of his body in giant Jenova monsters
- Regeneration
- Create objects(including weapons) and living beings(the three brothers and the Shadow Creepers, for example)
- Have at least the same speed of Chaos Vincent and Omega Weiss
- Can turn intangible
- Can create illusions
- Can read minds
- A mental power so great, that he can hold back a magic spell with power enough to destroy everything on the planet in seconds, while immobilizing 8 strong warriors in the air crushing their bodies.
- He can create an insanely powerful barrier to protect himself(the one in the Northern Crater is a good example)
- Can kill an entire planet and move it across the universe as a ”space-ship”
- Have physical strength to cut buildings in half, easily
- Can use Iakiri(the blue “line” that cut the Junon Cannon)
- Incredible damage soak(Genesis’ fire did nothing to him) and probably is bullet proof(Empowered Hojo/Weiss was bullet proof, and there is nothing above Sephiroth in FFVII)
- Don’t need to breath, sleep, or eat(because his body is Jenova)
- Can shapeshift
- Powerful magic, like: Pale Horse, Deen, DeBarrier, DeSpell, Demi3, Break, Wall, Shadow Flare, Super Nova, etc.
He is the strongest existence in FFVII, a world where some characters(a few) can destroy everything in a planet. Guys, stop underestimating him please.
Originally posted by SHM
So, with exception of KH Sephiroth, this is basically AC Sephiroth vs Kain.Seph is using Jenova's body/head and by consequence, have all the powers the J-cells grants + the power of Negative Lifestream.
Some of his abilities then:
i left the pieces of that list that will help him 😉 🙂
Originally posted by Burning thought
Kain cannot, the Sword has no limit, it simply drains into it the souls it wants, Kain would just dip the sword into the stream, and surely enough it will be his....and what do you mean, i thought thats where the dead go? thats basically souls....fancy name, life stream...if its not the soul, then Sephiroth has nothing to stop his soul itself being ripped from him, if he does not even have a soul, then Kains possession will worth wonders
You cannot know the reaction, so you cannot claim such things.
It's not the same as Souls.
Originally posted by Burning thought
rubbish, Kain can teleport instantly, if he doesnt od that, he will dimension warp...hell touch Sephiroth big time, or he could use his TK and freeze him, or use the TK to launch the sword away from him, or into Sephiroth.....(by touch i ment with his sword....)
1. Sephiroth has teleport too.
2. I have NEVER seen any footage to suggest Kain is remotely on the same level in sword skill.
however
Kain own him due big time to the time magic cheapness
Originally posted by EvilAngel
You cannot know the reaction, so you cannot claim such things.It's not the same as Souls.
1. Sephiroth has teleport too.
2. I have NEVER seen any footage to suggest Kain is remotely on the same level in sword skill.
however
Kain own him due big time to the time magic cheapness
1. yes i know, but he doesnt have the dimension warp
2. see above, his dimension warping will make sephiroths skill nothing, also to menstion.....Sephiroth will not have a sword....
what do you mean, if he has never had his soul attacked...never had to defend against such things, then you cannot simply assume he is immune to them can you....
Originally posted by Burning thought
1. yes i know, but he doesnt have the dimension warp2. see above, his dimension warping will make sephiroths skill nothing, also to menstion.....Sephiroth will not have a sword....
what do you mean, if he has never had his soul attacked...never had to defend against such things, then you cannot simply assume he is immune to them can you....
1. Difference being?
2. Sephiroth can remake his sword out of the essencei n the air.
I do because (I wwon't repeat myself again it's becomnig annoying) he doesn't have a soul, it's negative Lifestream.
Souls are food in Kains world
Lifestream has been show to be the most destructive force in the FF series.
for the last time:
THEY ARE DIFFERENT
Originally posted by Furion
Yeah if it wasn't for that damn time move it would be a fair fight. So all Time screwing is kicked out. Oops, did I just take away Kain's biggest advantage? Tell me were you would see Kain without anyone Sephiroth or Kain screwing around with time.
i would see Sephiroth getting BFR, i would see Sephiroth getting beaten the ass out of him, his sword constantly slicing him, his sword flying away from him, Kains every hit sending forth the blasting energies of the reaver....then hell infect him with the conflict emblem and make Sephiroth attack any minions he has summoned, they will all suddenly attack him.
Kain will mist for every strike at him, and will reform if anything does hit him...he could dimension warp..and if useing the full emblems power of the sword....hes got weather under his control, lighting constantly hitting sephiroth...energy blasts...
Sephiroths own magic reflecting back at him, oh did i not menstion kains uber shield? reflects magic back...AND makes him immune to physical damage....
what else does Kain have, now his time powers are gone none of that mumbo jumbo, i dont thnk this sephiroth has blood so no blood spells, He do a Jedah for a laugh and use his own blood as a projectile
Originally posted by EvilAngel
1. Difference being?2. Sephiroth can remake his sword out of the essencei n the air.
I do because (I wwon't repeat myself again it's becomnig annoying) he doesn't have a soul, it's negative Lifestream.
Souls are food in Kains world
Lifestream has been show to be the most destructive force in the FF series.
for the last time:
THEY ARE DIFFERENT
1. Dimension warping is warping space itself, he can make it so that his one strike can hit many times all over Sephiroth, or use his dimension warp to simply go to another dimension
he doesnt have a soul? can you show me this please
well yeh, they can be food...that makes no diffrence to what a soul is, its often descirebd as the essence of a being (maybe life essence) the soul...the spirit....cna you prove there is no such thing as souls, ime simply curious not that it matters ofc
Powers Sephiroth received from KH:
Instant Teleportation
Power to summon Giant Flames that will pull Kain towards them
Power to instantly zap Kain's Strength to within aa single hit for a KO
Power to summon small energy balls to throw.
Power to summon Small meteors to throw at Kain continuesly.
Can do a move were sephiroth will hit Kain like 10 times if he doesn't block.
Can go Beserk
Originally posted by Furion
Powers Sephiroth received from KH:
Instant Teleportation
Power to summon Giant Flames that will pull Kain towards them
Power to instantly zap Kain's Strength to within aa single hit for a KO
Power to summon small energy balls to throw.
Power to summon Small meteors to throw at Kain continuesly.
Can do a move were sephiroth will hit Kain like 10 times if he doesn't block.
Can go Beserk
instant teleport...means nothing to kain....
giant flames? please, Kain himself has pyrokinesis and can cause things to burn with a gesture, he also has power over the elemetns himself....also all this your saying are magical in nature...kains shield would reflect it...and those that are not, like the attacks are physical...which his shield is immune to
kain needs to do hardly anything to secure a 10/10 win in this battle, youd have to do mroe than take away his time powers