Originally posted by Burning thought
well essentially bullet speed in the first game apparently, although his official speed is unkown, hes just described as being faster, stronger and more agile than any human and this was puny young kain, who Elder kain would duche with one armbut his speed in this fight is coming from his dimensional warping ,he basically will effectively may as well be moving at the speed of light, only without the gravity build up and his increase in mass so he wont be hitting Sephiroth like Pyron would hit Sephiroth, hell just be flashing through dimension warps beating on sephiroth again and again....etc etc
or he could just fool with him, using TK and why is everyone ignoring the shield, do i have to post the site to prove this shield thing [B]again
V2D seen the shield, the thing is unarmed by physical and reflects magical back at opponents, no one is making Kain sushi..and if he did..what good will it do [/B]
Originally posted by Burning thoughtPyron would just laugh at Sephiroth and then pinch his planet between his fingers.
well essentially bullet speed in the first game apparently, although his official speed is unkown, hes just described as being faster, stronger and more agile than any human and this was puny young kain, who Elder kain would duche with one armbut his speed in this fight is coming from his dimensional warping ,he basically will effectively may as well be moving at the speed of light, only without the gravity build up and his increase in mass so he wont be hitting Sephiroth like Pyron would hit Sephiroth, hell just be flashing through dimension warps beating on sephiroth again and again....etc etc
or he could just fool with him, using TK and why is everyone ignoring the shield, do i have to post the site to prove this shield thing [B]again
V2D seen the shield, the thing is unarmed by physical and reflects magical back at opponents, no one is making Kain sushi..and if he did..what good will it do [/B]
Kain has tele which would help, he can run at bullet speed apparently in the first game, and has too many powers for Seph.
Originally posted by Furion
What part of instant teleport don't you get, if Kain gets anywhere near Sephiroth and he can't hit him,Sephy just teleport away.
theres a lot of things to consider, reaction speeds for one, if Kain teleports behind sephiroth, at the speed hes going to be doing it, Sephiroth is swiss cheese
Lol, just to clarify, I'm not so delued taht i think Sephiroth would last more than a few moment vs Pyron
Originally posted by Burning thought
mist form he can go as fast as the winbut here, hes quite quick in this one video, 0.48 to about 0.52
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So thats dimential Shift? 48-52? Looks like a normal teleport. Sorry could you remind me of the diffference again please?
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Pyron would just laugh at Sephiroth and then pinch his planet between his fingers.Kain has tele which would help, he can run at bullet speed apparently in the first game, and has too many powers for Seph.
in Blood omen 2, it was stated he was going to move at his main speed as a special ability, where all your opponents would be like..bullet time speed, but it was cut, so whether he is actually as quick as a bullet while running ime not sure now, considering his evolution nobody knows kains stats, hes simply said to be Uberz after evolution by both fans and the developers (altho i dont think the Developers say things like Uberz)
Originally posted by Burning thought
why is everyone ignoring the shield, do i have to post the site to prove this shield thing [B]again V2D seen the shield, the thing is unarmed by physical and reflects magical back at opponents, no one is making Kain sushi..and if he did..what good will it do [/B]
Originally posted by EvilAngel
Lol, just to clarify, I'm not so delued taht i think Sephiroth would last more than a few moment vs PyronThanks
So thats dimential Shift? 48-52? Looks like a normal teleport
it looks like it doesnt it, but normal teleport is simply transfer of your molecules scientifically speaking in diffrence through that one plain, wheras Kain goes through other dimensions and planes, over and over again, in quick succession and attacks straight from coming out of the void, wheras Sephiroth would materlise and strike, Kain would strike while materlising, also the reaver>>masurmane or however you spell Sephiroths blade
and i think you may have seen this, this is kains normal teleportation
Originally posted by Burning thought
it looks like it doesnt it, but normal teleport is simply transfer of your molecules scientifically speaking in diffrence through that one plain, wheras Kain goes through other dimensions and planes, over and over again, in quick successionand i think you may have seen this, this is kains normal teleportation
cool lol, thats clever, whoever thought that up has a nice imagination
people have to be clever to think up Fiction i guess..
but anyway, even ime tired to feed this spite fest 😛
Kain cream cakes Sephiroth
Furtion you could prob keep taking abilites from kain all night until eventually Sephiroth and possibly any character can have a chance of defeating him lawls...even without his uber shield he canot die anyway and still has all his reaver snapper doodles
Originally posted by Furion
Doesn't freaking need to kill him, cuts off both arms and legs and rips out his heart. Then leaves. No mist form cause like I said, Sephiroth would set EVERYTHING on fire so if he went mist, he would evaporate.
Kain has had his heart ripped out before, it didnt barely phase him....
Kain reforms with his arms and legs back...in seconds he rehealed, infact in about possibly 10 seconds he has fully healed his chest after having his heart ripped out.....
evaporating mist...impossible, Mist IS the evaporation of water, almost..you cannot evaporte it further but as i said, your not listening, Kain with TK could keep sending Sephiroths sword away, even if he kepts making it again the saem would happen ,and his dimensional warping would be the end of Sephiroth...
if Kain wants ot end the fight, he could Dimension warp somewhere, summon Sephiroth to that place, then Dimension warp back...leaving Sephiroth stranded and Kain wins through BFR
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Also, it is kinda sad how you have to take away all of Kain's powers to give Seph the win.
same as i was thinking, next kain wont have his sword, will be young kain and wont have any spells, hed be basically a normal vampire...lawls
Originally posted by EvilAngelKain can go bullet speed, which is faster than the eye can see. Hell, a being who moves at 70 miles per hour would be hard to see. It's not that impressive.
Leaving all power on or your not fighting the charcetr, just some degraded form of it.Though one point which hasn't been bought up for Sephiroth yet is that he's faster than the eye can see. How's Kain gonna deal with that?
Originally posted by EvilAngel
Leaving all power on or your not fighting the charcetr, just some degraded form of it.Though one point which hasn't been bought up for Sephiroth yet is that he's faster than the eye can see. How's Kain gonna deal with that?
well he has the mind emblem, and the dimension, combination of that can pintpoint beings from across dimensions, as the dimensional guardian did, the mind emblem woudl allow kain to simply reach out and sense, the very concept of mind at his command, also Kain is not human, his senses are not human nor is his reaction time....
Kain will be moveing at a rate that sephiroth will not see either, Kain will just gesture and Sephiroth is in Telekinetic shackles, unable to move....
also as V2D said its not that impressive, ime moving my hand in front of my face (yes i look liek a spaz) and ime only seeing a blur, how much faster would i have to move it, to not see it....blades of a fan can go round fast enough that you cannot barely see them, thats not going as fast a a bullet.
Originally posted by EvilAngel
Sephiroth isn't Human either. I don't understand what that means, humans in VG's don't have human reaction times lol.What about Heartless Angel? Once cast...you will be hit, this dimension or not.
what does it do? also what do you mean, this dimension or not....has he done it across dimensions before..Kain could go to Nosgoth through dimensonal rift, he cannot even be touched there..want Sephiroth to fight kain in Nosgoth? kain will do it....