Originally posted by Alfheim
Hey I picked DH II for my New Avengers and all of a sudden its DH II time. 🙁 Stop ripping my ideas I saw him first angryfist
Yes, let's not steal characters and pretend like it's our find. That would just be wrong.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t461697.html
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Originally posted by Horrificus
Minion wins.
Minion is able to defeat Gladiator.
Haha. No. I'd love to see what you're basing that on.
And giving undue credit to a character only loses them reputation points. Look at Storm. So I like to be honest about characters, even if I'd secretly love to see Minion beat someone like Glads....but it would be some pretty massive SM/FL (though not quite as bad).
Class 100 strength, in the neighborhood of Hercules.
Teleportation
Experience, intelligence and creativity of 106 of the most powerful minds in existence, (including Reed Richards).
Near-instantaneous repair, from damage as severe as being cut in half.
Horrendously powerful weapons systems.
Incredibly durable body, showing no damage against Hulk-level opponents.
Hand weapon capable of breaking adamantium, (Logan's claw).
And that's just off the top of my head.
Originally posted by Horrificus
Class 100 strength, in the neighborhood of Hercules.
Teleportation
Experience, intelligence and creativity of 106 of the most powerful minds in existence, (including Reed Richards).
Near-instantaneous repair, from damage as severe as being cut in half.
Horrendously powerful weapons systems.
Incredibly durable body, showing no damage against Hulk-level opponents.
Hand weapon capable of breaking adamantium, (Logan's claw).And that's just off the top of my head.
I'm familiar with his power set, more so than most.
- His strength is Class 100, but he grappled with Thing for a while before overpowering him. He managed to gets some shots in on Hulk, but only with Killpower's help. Impressive, but nowhere near Glads level.
- He has never used his teleportation in a battle setting, suggesting that it's more for travel than close-range fighting.
- Experience and intelligence is great, but what would he do with it? For how impressive it should be, it's never really been utilized for anything, and wouldn't be useful against Glads.
- He wasn't cut in half. It was a slice along the center of his body, and yes it was an impressive healing feat. But he's been knocked out before by people at or below Glads' level.
- His healing is impressive but he's been damaged by a lot less than Hulk-level opponents. I don't really know what you're basing his durability on, but if it wasn't for his healing he'd be in even worse trouble.
- The adamantium feat you're referring to is erroneous. The Wolverine was from an alternate universe where his adamantium had been magically tampered with by Charnel, so they weren't as strong as regular adamantium. When he faced 616 Wolverine, Logan cut his arm off, so it's definitely NOT stronger than adamantium.
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I love Minion. Which is why I'm giving him the respect he deserves, but no more. Gladiator would beat him.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Yes, let's not steal characters and pretend like it's our find. That would just be wrong.http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t461697.html
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Yeah I know....im just joking....c'mon. 😐
Originally posted by DigiMark007Well, he pounded the Hulk around pretty well. And, I'm not listing some of the other Hulk-level beings he beat, because nobody would know who I am talking about, since it didn't really go mainstream.
I'm familiar with his power set, more so than most.- His strength is Class 100, but he grappled with Thing for a while before overpowering him. He managed to gets some shots in on Hulk, but only with Killpower's help. Impressive, but nowhere near Glads level.
- He has never used his teleportation in a battle setting, suggesting that it's more for travel than close-range fighting.
- Experience and intelligence is great, but what would he do with it? For how impressive it should be, it's never really been utilized for anything, and wouldn't be useful against Glads.
- He wasn't cut in half. It was a slice along the center of his body, and yes it was an impressive healing feat. But he's been knocked out before by people at or below Glads' level.
- His healing is impressive but he's been damaged by a lot less than Hulk-level opponents. I don't really know what you're basing his durability on, but if it wasn't for his healing he'd be in even worse trouble.
- The adamantium feat you're referring to is erroneous. The Wolverine was from an alternate universe where his adamantium had been magically tampered with by Charnel, so they weren't as strong as regular adamantium. When he faced 616 Wolverine, Logan cut his arm off, so it's definitely NOT stronger than adamantium.
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I love Minion. Which is why I'm giving him the respect he deserves, but no more. Gladiator would beat him.
Originally posted by Horrificus
Well, he pounded the Hulk around pretty well. And, I'm not listing some of the other Hulk-level beings he beat, because nobody would know who I am talking about, since it didn't really go mainstream.
As you know.
This is supposed to use the best showings of the characters in question.
Are you saying that a creature like minion, with his physical capabilities, used with the 106 mental giants in his head, could not beat Gladiator?
Seriously? Because, I don't think that sounds realistic.
Especially, given Gladiators confidence problem.
You really believe the information and experience in the 106 minds he holds, would not be able to work Gladiator's mind as well as his body?
He didn't beat the Hulk. He stalemated him for a bit with the help of Killpower, then BFR'd him out of a spaceship. It's a good showing, but to suggest that it puts him on Gladiator's level is asinine.
Gladiator has torn stars apart and gone toe-to-toe with herald-level beings.
And you still have yet to show how he'd actually be able to use the 106 personalities for anything useful (105, actually. One of them escaped). He's not telepathic, and most of them have never even been explained or used....we can only confirm the names of about 5-6 of the personalities. So "working on Gladiator's mind?" Not unless witty banter makes Glads feel less confident.
Your argument is based on listing a power set and trying to make him sound better than he is. Nothing he has done puts him on level with numerous feats that Glads has accomplished.