Scorpion vs Kain

Started by Burning thought5 pages

what do you mean? what can he do at all to do anything to kain...nobody would beat anyone would they since their both immortal and theres nothing Scorpion can do if Kain does the infamous Mist to escape attacks, teleport

even if Kain cannot defeat scorpion which i think is more unlikely since Kain has all his TK, reaver and tonnes of other things Scoprion is not beating kain, i think it would be a constant battle if you think Scoprion can escape Kains reaver powers and such

Whats the point in these? they should have a limited number of lives IMO

hm yeh probably, it is a battle for KO or incapacitation however so they are viable, i just dont see anyway for Scoprion to stop kain, hes too fast and has abilities to escape being hit altogther

but i agree, most battles immortals should have a set number of lives like the phobos battle

Don't see Scorpion beating Kain, and i don't even know what the artifacts he has are

Scorpion has shown signs of telekneesis. Specially since his spear is a spear not a serpent. He has to control it. Scorpion slow. Hahaahahha. Thats funny. Scorpion is known for his speed and versitility and skill. He knows multiple and has demostrated several dfferent martial arts styles. Not including styles with his sword. Has pyro kinesis. Has control of his own domain where he can warp to and other instantly which is a hell like enviorment. And unlike others Scorpions demostrated ability to fight while teleporting. Scorpion would beat Kain to a pulp under the circumstances

Originally posted by Csdabest
Scorpion has shown signs of telekneesis. Specially since his spear is a spear not a serpent. He has to control it. Scorpion slow. Hahaahahha. Thats funny. Scorpion is known for his speed and versitility and skill. He knows multiple and has demostrated several dfferent martial arts styles. Not including styles with his sword. Has pyro kinesis. Has control of his own domain where he can warp to and other instantly which is a hell like enviorment. And unlike others Scorpions demostrated ability to fight while teleporting. Scorpion would beat Kain to a pulp under the circumstances

yeh scoprion slow, how is he going to come against kain at all infact...Dimension movement would smash Scorpion into nothingness, obviously he is known, but not known in comparison to Kain....yeh and Kain can escape that dimension since he can move through dimensions...How would he beat Kain at all? can he grab mist? kain has too many magic powers, TK and Scorpion is on the floor or floating in the air....Kain wins...Kain would smash Scorpion into submission with the reaver possibly blowing him to pieces in the process, and if the thing can reform after that, simply imapale him and leave him on a wall or keep him on there....Kain could trick him with the mind emblem with illusions, he wont even be fighting the real kain ,and when 100 Kains all convergeo n him he wont have a prayer to know who the real one is before he gets impaled or smashed....then if he tries to counterattack, he hits nothing but vapour and mist and is standing confused before suddenly he sees a sword blade come through his body, Kain could again and again master Scorpion

Scorpion is not slow at all. He is one of the fastest people in Mortal kombat. if anything kain is slow. How would Kain dimension ssmash Scorpion. he can warp between dimensions as well. Mist huh he wouldn't have to grab him if he turns into mist. Scorpion starts raising hell with hellraiser and evaporates him with fire from the pits of the netherealm. Mist is water and it can still evaporate. There Kain is screwed. Kain in combat would get wtf pwned my scorpion due to skill,experience, and all out a better fighter. Scorpiion would simply slice and dice Kain into many peices with his kunai. He does it a shit load in mortal kombat shaolin monks. Kain best thing is his soul ripping abilities and the oh I cant be killed thinhg till my mission is accomplished. Oh and i just bought Kain Lok from e-bay. Got it. beat it. and yall highly overrate Kain's abilities. But yeah Really Kain has nothing on Scorpion. Scorps got tk as well and tk is not the end all ability.

Originally posted by Csdabest
Scorpion is not slow at all. He is one of the fastest people in Mortal kombat. if anything kain is slow. How would Kain dimension ssmash Scorpion. he can warp between dimensions as well. Mist huh he wouldn't have to grab him if he turns into mist. Scorpion starts raising hell with hellraiser and evaporates him with fire from the pits of the netherealm. Mist is water and it can still evaporate. There Kain is screwed. Kain in combat would get wtf pwned my scorpion due to skill,experience, and all out a better fighter. Scorpiion would simply slice and dice Kain into many peices with his kunai. He does it a shit load in mortal kombat shaolin monks. Kain best thing is his soul ripping abilities and the oh I cant be killed thinhg till my mission is accomplished. Oh and i just bought Kain Lok from e-bay. Got it. beat it. and yall highly overrate Kain's abilities. But yeah Really Kain has nothing on Scorpion. Scorps got tk as well and tk is not the end all ability.

Nah dimension warping Kain is faster than anything Scoprion can muster, Kain would dimension warp in a blink of an eye, its in the video. Show me Scorpion going through dimensions several times in the time of perhaps less than a second in and out attacking his enemies?

Mist is water vapour already...try agian, also your being foolish...AGAIN, if youve played LOK which i doubt considering your oddity in this matter (or super bias) you would know Kain can go in and out of mist in a blink of an eye. Scoprion wouldnt have a chance to react and use any skill, hed be getting smashed about, every hit of the reaver is enough to blast a man to pieces, it would blow Scorp or throw him all over the place getting him beat. Nah he would "try" to slice kain but kain will be mist or completly be tele blizting him, or more likely throw any of his weapons he has with TK away from Scoprion.

Please show me Scoprions TK, Kain can pick up opponetns, move weapons and such and create shackles to trap opponents, what has scorp done?

i highly overrate? when, i belive you are prob lieing and also what game? theres 5 games, you would have to play all 5 and understand the story to understand Kain.....and if you think ime overating then prove it, what have i overrated...i have proven almost every point on Kain against V2D with a site or Video.

Scoprion has nothing on kain

Ummm...BT, when does Kain get the power to eat souls with the reaver? Cause so far, he only uses it to drain blood...

What your saying is pure speculation. Scorpion in many installments has been shown porting in and out attacking his enemies. He hasnt done it in seconds from my knowlege. But he has shown to do it. That doesnt mean Kain is faster than scorpion. Just means he knows how to hide and sneak attack effectively. Stand up fight Scorpion would beat the living breaks off of Kain. Most of kains speed feats that I have seen are due to his time manip. Which he doesnt have in this battle.

Water vapor. Key word water. It still can be compeltely evaporated with heat. Ask a science professor. if given enough heat it will simply turn into a gas not vapor. Unless you want to prove to me scientifically wise that water vapor and gases are the same thing. That mist is gas. If not then your wrong my friend. Again I have just played the game. It is your who is superbiased seeing as you even have Kain in your bio. And Guess what Scorpion has already dealt with people who has Kain abilities. Smoke. So its nothing new to him and he handles smoke with ease. He will use hell raiser and simply vaporized even more whats left of Kain in mist form. Wouldn't have a second to react you say. He is immortal as well. He has more than enough time to react he cant die.

Also to prove what mist is. Put a spray bottle on mist and spray it into a cup see if it forms water. Try evaporating the collection of mist which would build up into water. Then Try spraying mist into a fire and see if it comes out the other end. Fire can exstinguish mist mist cant exstinguish fire. It quickly evaporates so kain would be screwed going mist aginst scorpion

Scorpion uses tk when guiding his Kunai/serpant attack. guiding it to his enemies.

You have proving nothing in this fight except your fanboyism. All you have said is, scorpion is not faster, scorpion would get his soul ripped out when he has no soul, scorpion cant use fire to get rid of mist. I have provided counters for everything Kain can throw at him. And Kain is definetly is not seeing scorpion in a hand to hand fight. Also Scorpion has a strong will so he wont be so easily TK raped. Specialy since he has small tk feats of his own. he has stood up aginst the likes of Ermac who is a master at TK. I have played one of the games which is good enough. Specialy since everyone says he is the strongest in LOK. So i got a pretty good grasp of his ability. Yes he is able to do the stuff people claim but people overhype it to a insane degree.

And me superbiased? No. Im just informed on both characters unlike you are. You obviously know nothing about Scorpion. I atleast know some content on Kain. First hand. i am no where near super biased on Scorpion. Im more of a subzero guy when it boils down to it.

Want me to point out when you were superbiased. When i first figured it out. When you said that one of the fastest characters in MK was slow with out proving it. Specially when you stated and clearly shown you know nothing about the MK universe. I have a feeling you just can't accept the fact that with out Kain having time manip and being able to use soul rip he can be beaten. Not killed but be bested in combat. Also another part showing your superbiased ideals is when you first stated that scorpion will get his soul ripped out. when if anyone has played any of the mortal kombat games. They would instantly know that Scorpion doesnt have a soul.

So without time manip Kain has nothing on Scorpion.

Originally posted by Csdabest
What your saying is pure speculation. Scorpion in many installments has been shown porting in and out attacking his enemies. He hasnt done it in seconds from my knowlege. But he has shown to do it. That doesnt mean Kain is faster than scorpion. Just means he knows how to hide and sneak attack effectively. Stand up fight Scorpion would beat the living breaks off of Kain. Most of kains speed feats that I have seen are due to his time manip. Which he doesnt have in this battle.

Water vapor. Key word water. It still can be compeltely evaporated with heat. Ask a science professor. if given enough heat it will simply turn into a gas not vapor. Unless you want to prove to me scientifically wise that water vapor and gases are the same thing. That mist is gas. If not then your wrong my friend. Again I have just played the game. It is your who is superbiased seeing as you even have Kain in your bio. And Guess what Scorpion has already dealt with people who has Kain abilities. Smoke. So its nothing new to him and he handles smoke with ease. He will use hell raiser and simply vaporized even more whats left of Kain in mist form. Wouldn't have a second to react you say. He is immortal as well. He has more than enough time to react he cant die.

Also to prove what mist is. Put a spray bottle on mist and spray it into a cup see if it forms water. Try evaporating the collection of mist which would build up into water. Then Try spraying mist into a fire and see if it comes out the other end. Fire can exstinguish mist mist cant exstinguish fire. It quickly evaporates so kain would be screwed going mist aginst scorpion

Scorpion uses tk when guiding his Kunai/serpant attack. guiding it to his enemies.

You have proving nothing in this fight except your fanboyism. All you have said is, scorpion is not faster, scorpion would get his soul ripped out when he has no soul, scorpion cant use fire to get rid of mist. I have provided counters for everything Kain can throw at him. And Kain is definetly is not seeing scorpion in a hand to hand fight. Also Scorpion has a strong will so he wont be so easily TK raped. Specialy since he has small tk feats of his own. he has stood up aginst the likes of Ermac who is a master at TK. I have played one of the games which is good enough. Specialy since everyone says he is the strongest in LOK. So i got a pretty good grasp of his ability. Yes he is able to do the stuff people claim but people overhype it to a insane degree.

And me superbiased? No. Im just informed on both characters unlike you are. You obviously know nothing about Scorpion. I atleast know some content on Kain. First hand. i am no where near super biased on Scorpion. Im more of a subzero guy when it boils down to it.

Want me to point out when you were superbiased. When i first figured it out. When you said that one of the fastest characters in MK was slow with out proving it. Specially when you stated and clearly shown you know nothing about the MK universe. I have a feeling you just can't accept the fact that with out Kain having time manip and being able to use soul rip he can be beaten. Not killed but be bested in combat. Also another part showing your superbiased ideals is when you first stated that scorpion will get his soul ripped out. when if anyone has played any of the mortal kombat games. They would instantly know that Scorpion doesnt have a soul.

So without time manip Kain has nothing on Scorpion.

i have not speculated anything, if youve played Defiance, you should know Kain ports in and out instantly many times, Scorpion would not have a chance to react to a kain constantly teleporting all around and smashing him across the floor with one hit. And wtf hide and sneak, dimensioning is not hide and sneak...can he see invisiblity? this scorpion?......thats hiding and sneaking as well. And no, he would not beat up kain in any situation, not until you show me a strength and speed feat yourself....

Mist is indeed water vapour, its vapour however, you would need to prove that Scorpions heat is enough to turn vapour into complete gas....try going out in a mist and let loose a blow torch, it will simply turn into more mist and condense. But this is irrelevent, Kain can change at will extremely quickly...and wtf, ime superbiased for having Kain in my Bio....that just states ime a fan of Kain, not superbiased. And yeh, a split second and kain can become normal form, also what proof do you have that heat will effect kains mist form? he has gone through heat before by all kinds of wizards and not condensed, its obvious he is not normal mist, otherwise the wind would take him, Its a combination of kain and mist, so hes ethereal but has not mistlike properties, you wont burn away kain. Also you never took away Kains shield, Kain is immediatley immune to Physical and Magical attacks.....so much for beating on kain huh?, more like beating on the shield and kain smashing him to the floor.

is that the extent of his TK? lmao.....is it even TK, can you prove this please? or are you speculating

what Fanboyism, ive stated truths on my character and when did i say his soul gets ripped? i asked if i remember correctly if he could or not...and yes he is indeed quicker, using Dimentonal manip...also what makes you think TK for Kain has anything to do with will?....his TK simply picks enemies up, if it was to do with will, he could not do it to Moebius who has incredible will. Its simply kinetic force, your simply dragging on and trying to give scoprion a chance. NO obviously its not good enough is it? if you say its overhype and dont know all the abilities, theres abilities in this one the producers did not give kain, that he had in the other games, powers players cannot control, theres tonnes of attacks and powers you see Kain use or can use in the other games. You say its overhyped to an insane degree, yet you fail to say what is overhyped.....

no i dont know anything about Scoprion apart from his name and now he doesnt have a soul, thats about it...you on the other hand think your informed on both characters yet youve played one game which has barely half of kains powers in,perhaps the minimal amounts.....

i said he would be slow compared to kain going dimentional speed, i dont see Scorpion moving this qucik...show me if he can and prove me wrong please. No i think your just begging for kain to lose against your MK chum, your begging that with these limitations Kain cannot hold his own, unfortunatley, your wrong. Does Scoprion have blood?

wrong!!! Kain takes scorpion for a song and dance before slicing him in half and beating the pieces into submission

FATALITY!!!

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Ummm...BT, when does Kain get the power to eat souls with the reaver? Cause so far, he only uses it to drain blood...

you get it at the end, but i wont spoil the story, Defiance is not the best game to try out the reaver soul powers itself

Im done arguing. Imo Scorpion wns 75%.

And you my friend have once again provin that its a fact that your opinion is wrong.

Originally posted by Csdabest
Im done arguing. Imo Scorpion wns 75%.

And you my friend have once again provin that its a fact that your opinion is wrong.

wtf lol.......well okie..IMO Kain wins 100%

And you my friend have once again proven that its a fact that your opinion is wrong

Guess what. Your wrong again.

Originally posted by Csdabest
Guess what. Your wrong again.

....where are you getting rubbish from.....now your trolling you know that? your saying my opinion is wrong, an opinion cannot truly be wrong, especially if your not even going debate the point, so your going to keep going "your wrong"........

your more wrong than me 131

Ya'll niggas need to chill...

As I stated. You have made it a fact that your opinion is wrong. A opinion can be wrong if it is given on a subject that the person is uninformed about. So your opinion of scorpion is wrong.

So once again my friend...You have proven its a fact that your wrong once again.

1. Scorpion can port in and out over and over again. Attacking his enemies. If you was informed on the issue you would know of it. And would know that Kain doing it doesnt give him any advantage. Since you were uninformed about Scorpion having this ability. Your opinion was wrong on this.

2. You gave an opinion trying to dictate what is fact. Which made your opinion wrong. The mist dissappears. If you disspearse it inflames. You are obviously uninformed on this matter which made you opinion once again wrong.

3. Obviously you haven't seen the footage where he dimistrates this. Unless you can explain to me otherwise how he guides a lifeless kunai attached to a rope at high speeds guiding it and peircing it through his enemies. Please state your view. Its clear to see its telekenesis. Unless your ready to give more uninformed opinion about something you know nothing about. Which would make your opinion once again wrong. It is you speculating that he isnt using telekensis. Without you even seeing any of the content or experencing any of it yourself. So your wrong.

3. It is fanboyism. Your shutting down every counter with out proof. even though Scorpion has proven that he is more than capable of countering what he Kain can produce given the restrictions. 60% of what is stated is mostly overhyped. Almost every game character(With any fanbase) is overhyped by his fans. So yes my views on you being a fanboy are correct. Plus you have Kain in you sig. Showing your love for the character.

4. Like I said your trying to say one person is slow compared to another. Straight up Scorpion is faster. Kain Dimensional warp may be faster but not that fast it would give a huge advantage. By you trying to justify your opinion as fact on more information that you dont know about. Makes you wrong once more.

5. With the limitation Kain would most likely get his ass handed to him by scorpion. Scorpion has the same key feats as Kain does. With Dimentional warping, having his own domain where he is in complete control of(Which i dont think Kain has) and porting instantly. The only difference is. Scorpion is the more skilled and experienced fighter imo. He has thousands of years of combat fighting amongs the strongest warriors in his universe. Plus another five thousand Fighting a endless war with the armies of Outworld with out allies. At the same time competeting in these same tournaments with the strongest people in his universe. Kain has have his share of fights as well. But not in the amount and degree that Scorpion has along with odds. So your opinion on stating two characters with the same key feats when it will boiling down who is actually the better fighter which is more skilled and experienced is wrong. Specially since you said 100% Kain wins. It would have been close to that with time warp and most likely would have been that if he had time warp and scorpion had a soul.

So as you can see. I have with your help of course. Provin that it is a fact that your opinion is wrong. So guess what......

Your wrong.

Also saying that I am more wrong than you are is false. I am right handed proving further that I am right. so guess what.

Your wrong about that too.

Originally posted by Csdabest
As I stated. You have made it a fact that your opinion is wrong. A opinion can be wrong if it is given on a subject that the person is uninformed about. So your opinion of scorpion is wrong.

So once again my friend...You have proven its a fact that your wrong once again.

1. Scorpion can port in and out over and over again. Attacking his enemies. If you was informed on the issue you would know of it. And would know that Kain doing it doesnt give him any advantage. Since you were uninformed about Scorpion having this ability. Your opinion was wrong on this.

2. You gave an opinion trying to dictate what is fact. Which made your opinion wrong. The mist dissappears. If you disspearse it inflames. You are obviously uninformed on this matter which made you opinion once again wrong.

3. Obviously you haven't seen the footage where he dimistrates this. Unless you can explain to me otherwise how he guides a lifeless kunai attached to a rope at high speeds guiding it and peircing it through his enemies. Please state your view. Its clear to see its telekenesis. Unless your ready to give more uninformed opinion about something you know nothing about. Which would make your opinion once again wrong. It is you speculating that he isnt using telekensis. Without you even seeing any of the content or experencing any of it yourself. So your wrong.

3. It is fanboyism. Your shutting down every counter with out proof. even though Scorpion has proven that he is more than capable of countering what he Kain can produce given the restrictions. 60% of what is stated is mostly overhyped. Almost every game character(With any fanbase) is overhyped by his fans. So yes my views on you being a fanboy are correct. Plus you have Kain in you sig. Showing your love for the character.

4. Like I said your trying to say one person is slow compared to another. Straight up Scorpion is faster. Kain Dimensional warp may be faster but not that fast it would give a huge advantage. By you trying to justify your opinion as fact on more information that you dont know about. Makes you wrong once more.

5. With the limitation Kain would most likely get his ass handed to him by scorpion. Scorpion has the same key feats as Kain does. With Dimentional warping, having his own domain where he is in complete control of(Which i dont think Kain has) and porting instantly. The only difference is. Scorpion is the more skilled and experienced fighter imo. He has thousands of years of combat fighting amongs the strongest warriors in his universe. Plus another five thousand Fighting a endless war with the armies of Outworld with out allies. At the same time competeting in these same tournaments with the strongest people in his universe. Kain has have his share of fights as well. But not in the amount and degree that Scorpion has along with odds. So your opinion on stating two characters with the same key feats when it will boiling down who is actually the better fighter which is more skilled and experienced is wrong. Specially since you said 100% Kain wins. It would have been close to that with time warp and most likely would have been that if he had time warp and scorpion had a soul.

So as you can see. I have with your help of course. Provin that it is a fact that your opinion is wrong. So guess what......

Your wrong.

no thats not true, i said according to what i know, considering what i know depends on what you have proven which is very little, i dont have much to go by, ive watched the MK fimls however

1. show me this, not long ago you said

Originally posted by Csdabest
He hasnt done it in seconds from my knowlege

so in conclusion, Scoprion has it, but its not the same level as kain. kains speed dimentional movement, Kain will have the advantage to go in and out of dimensions extremely quickly while Scorps does not...and cannot counter it either from what youve said.

2. mist disapears?....yeh maybe normal mist changes from one element to another, youll simply be changing kain into a diffrent elements before he reforms, also as i said, its extremely quick transition, even if Kains mist for some reason could be vapoured out more, it would be folly to try because he can beasically instantly reform. But kain does not need this in the slightest to beat Scorpion

3. erm so your actually finally oweing up that your speculating and assuming its TK hes using to control it?, ive seen MK films, he uses that thing in the films, from wat i remember ,no TK is mentioned, so how he does it is unkown, your simply calling it TK without proof so far, show me proof it is actually TK. You want me to help you with your own debate? prop you up? why should i go looking for information to help you prove something, it should be you proveing its TK, since its your statement.

4. what do you call proof?, you have not shown any proof....youve not posted one video, at least i have made a clear Kain respect thread which has good videos in this, what proof do you need? You keep saying he can counter, but how does he encounter a physical/magical immunity shield?, how does he counter TK, especially since as present he has none that you have proven?, how does he counter getting Teleport/Dimensional blitzed?

no, your views are incorrect because you have no proof, your constantly gnawring at the "zomg overhype" bone without giving any reasons at all...ive overhyped nothing dear fellow. ive shown videos to other people and other people have helped me with various sites even though it plays in my favour, there are many sites covered in what Kain can do as ive shown V2D....please tell me whats exactley overhyped. You keep jumping over the sig rubbish as well, so because you dont have a sig you dont like any characters? 🙄

5. Yeh in your dreams....same key feats? just because he has a certain power, doesnt mean he has it on the extent of kain, Kain has TK but that doesnt mean its as strong as Jean greys TK....like how Scoprions Dimnsion abilities are nothing on kains from what youve said. Kain has Nosgoth, Kain cannot be truly defeated in Nosgoth, not truly, so Scoprion would never win in that realm, also Time is immutable meaning Scoprion would be deleted from excistence by setting foot in Nosgoth. No it would not make a diffrence on how many battles Scopion has since he has not half of the powers Kain has, simple, and most of the powers he does have are not on kains level. I said 100% because with a gesture Scoprion would be in TK shackles and will lose because of it, OR with a gesture kain has a shield to cast that makes him invulerable to physical/magical attacks, Scopion cant do much at all either with Kain porting constantly around and smashing him about.

so in conclusion you are:
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Originally posted by Burning thought
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