Originally posted by Burning thoughtDr. Cox would pwn Kain so hard.
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Originally posted by Burning thought
no thats not true, i said according to what i know, considering what i know depends on what you have proven which is very little, i dont have much to go by, ive watched the MK fimls however1. show me this, not long ago you said
so in conclusion, Scoprion has it, but its not the same level as kain. kains speed dimentional movement, Kain will have the advantage to go in and out of dimensions extremely quickly while Scorps does not...and cannot counter it either from what youve said.
2. mist disapears?....yeh maybe normal mist [B]changes
from one element to another, youll simply be changing kain into a diffrent elements before he reforms, also as i said, its extremely quick transition, even if Kains mist for some reason could be vapoured out more, it would be folly to try because he can beasically instantly reform. But kain does not need this in the slightest to beat Scorpion3. erm so your actually finally oweing up that your speculating and assuming its TK hes using to control it?, ive seen MK films, he uses that thing in the films, from wat i remember ,no TK is mentioned, so how he does it is unkown, your simply calling it TK without proof so far, show me proof it is actually TK. You want me to help you with your own debate? prop you up? why should i go looking for information to help you prove something, it should be you proveing its TK, since its your statement.
4. what do you call proof?, you have not shown any proof....youve not posted one video, at least i have made a clear Kain respect thread which has good videos in this, what proof do you need? You keep saying he can counter, but how does he encounter a physical/magical immunity shield?, how does he counter TK, especially since as present he has none that you have proven?, how does he counter getting Teleport/Dimensional blitzed?
no, your views are incorrect because you have no proof, your constantly gnawring at the "zomg overhype" bone without giving any reasons at all...ive overhyped nothing dear fellow. ive shown videos to other people and other people have helped me with various sites even though it plays in my favour, there are many sites covered in what Kain can do as ive shown V2D....please tell me whats exactley overhyped. You keep jumping over the sig rubbish as well, so because you dont have a sig you dont like any characters? 🙄
5. Yeh in your dreams....same key feats? just because he has a certain power, doesnt mean he has it on the extent of kain, Kain has TK but that doesnt mean its as strong as Jean greys TK....like how Scoprions Dimnsion abilities are nothing on kains from what youve said. Kain has Nosgoth, Kain cannot be truly defeated in Nosgoth, not truly, so Scoprion would never win in that realm, also Time is immutable meaning Scoprion would be deleted from excistence by setting foot in Nosgoth. No it would not make a diffrence on how many battles Scopion has since he has not half of the powers Kain has, simple, and most of the powers he does have are not on kains level. I said 100% because with a gesture Scoprion would be in TK shackles and will lose because of it, OR with a gesture kain has a shield to cast that makes him invulerable to physical/magical attacks, Scopion cant do much at all either with Kain porting constantly around and smashing him about.
so in conclusion you are:
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1. Your point. I have admitted. I said same abilities. But they are not onpar. but this will not be enough to give kain the win. But scorpion can teleport instantly though.
2. He can. I dont ever remember him being able to once the mist was vapourized. But even if he is not completely destroyed its another feat that will prove usless aginst Scorpion.
3. Can I please have text or something indicating that it specifically TK that he is using. From the game I have blade it doesnt say. It sure shows him levitating objects. For all we know this can just be some sort of levitating magic he posses. But hey if you can then yes he has TK. But until you do. Its pure speculation as well. Also the proof is in the film as you seen. Prove that it is not. How else is he guiding it through the forest. Just because it doesnt have a eerie glow doesnt mean it not tk.
4.Dont act silly I explained to you how. With Known commonly known abilities. That everyone shouldnt have a problem. The only thing on spec is TK. Scorpion has show many time that he has pyro kinesis under his control. Which the extreme fires and heat would vaporize the heat. Also its commonly known that Scorpion can teleport. Its also known that scorpion is one of the fastets characters in the MK universe. Also you have seen the film and you seen that he can also warp to his domain in another dimension. Aswell drag other down with him. I have stated nothing that isnt commonly known information. Nor have I asked you to state anything that is also commonly known about Kain. Also you have not posted a single video in this thread. Or any information outside of your words. And a respect thread. Is that really suppose to be used as a legit source. Information made by fans of the character. So reliable.
5. My views are incorrect. No they are not. My views are my opinion. I haven't tried to state my opinion as fact such as yourself trying to contradict what would happen to mist when it comes incontact with fire. Also i gave a small segment and my opinion after playing the game. I didnt try to use it in my argument. I gave no situations of overhype to try to void any of Kains techniques. But you right now are trying to overhype the fact that I said it. So no I didnt try to use it in my argument. Its just my opinion. So please provide the abilitity or feat that I said was overhyped. I mentioned the sig once because you brought up the situation. if you dont want it talked about then dont bring up about someone being a fanboy or being overbiased. You yourself brought this up.
6. I said that had the same abilities. I never said to the same extent. But Kain is not so far ahead that it will give him such a huge advantage in this fight. Also Scorpion hasnt performed the demnsion technique multiple times in slit secounds but he has performed it once in a split second. Still I didnt say it was to the same extent. also no one spoke about Nosgoth. Same could be said about Scorpion in his own hellish realm. Being beaten and being killed are to different things. Though Kain nor Scorpion at the time can be killed. They both can be beaten. Also TK shackles you say. I havet seen Kain perform this abilitiy. Please provide. So far i have seen kain only levitate objects and people. Why would he be deleted from existence. And who said the battle took place in Nosgoth. So this part is completely irrelevent. I didnt play the last mortal kombat but from what I have now learn that Scorpion is now on the champion of the gods. So we dont really have an idea what power he posses now. Also so easy with a gesture you say. I dont remembering seeing him doing this in the game I played. Nor have I seen direct evidence that it telekenesis. Just a glow. When I see a glow i think more magical than tk.
7. Once again you have failed. You have failed to prove yourself right. But yet succeded in proving that its a fact that your wrong. Nice video. already has been done. But it can deinetly be used for you more than for me. Seeing all you counters in this argument are rubbish. I have already given detail in which why your opinions are wrong. Get off the third grade definition of an opinion. An opinion can be wrong if it is uninformed or tries to contradict fact. You have done both. You made it clear and basicly admitted earlier on that you dont know nothing about Scorpion. Which proves that your uninformed. And you tried to contradict fact when you said that mist would survive in fire. Which is why you are wrong. I atleast know all of Kains abilities if not most. May not have experienced every single feat he has had but I have had gameplay to experience his abilities. You on the other hand not with scorpion.
Once again. Nice video. I'll be sure to send it to your family in about ten years when they tell you you are wrong aswell. Then they can play this video for you and yall can have a nice good laugh.
Scrubs FTW
Originally posted by Csdabest
1. Your point. I have admitted. I said same abilities. But they are not onpar. but this will not be enough to give kain the win. But scorpion can teleport instantly though.2. He can. I dont ever remember him being able to once the mist was vapourized. But even if he is not completely destroyed its another feat that will prove usless aginst Scorpion.
3. Can I please have text or something indicating that it specifically TK that he is using. From the game I have blade it doesnt say. It sure shows him levitating objects. For all we know this can just be some sort of levitating magic he posses. But hey if you can then yes he has TK. But until you do. Its pure speculation as well. Also the proof is in the film as you seen. Prove that it is not. How else is he guiding it through the forest. Just because it doesnt have a eerie glow doesnt mean it not tk.
4.Dont act silly I explained to you how. With Known commonly known abilities. That everyone shouldnt have a problem. The only thing on spec is TK. Scorpion has show many time that he has pyro kinesis under his control. Which the extreme fires and heat would vaporize the heat. Also its commonly known that Scorpion can teleport. Its also known that scorpion is one of the fastets characters in the MK universe. Also you have seen the film and you seen that he can also warp to his domain in another dimension. Aswell drag other down with him. I have stated nothing that isnt commonly known information. Nor have I asked you to state anything that is also commonly known about Kain. Also you have not posted a single video in this thread. Or any information outside of your words. And a respect thread. Is that really suppose to be used as a legit source. Information made by fans of the character. So reliable.
5. My views are incorrect. No they are not. My views are my opinion. I haven't tried to state my opinion as fact such as yourself trying to contradict what would happen to mist when it comes incontact with fire. Also i gave a small segment and my opinion after playing the game. I didnt try to use it in my argument. I gave no situations of overhype to try to void any of Kains techniques. But you right now are trying to overhype the fact that I said it. So no I didnt try to use it in my argument. Its just my opinion. So please provide the abilitity or feat that I said was overhyped. I mentioned the sig once because you brought up the situation. if you dont want it talked about then dont bring up about someone being a fanboy or being overbiased. You yourself brought this up.
6. I said that had the same abilities. I never said to the same extent. But Kain is not so far ahead that it will give him such a huge advantage in this fight. Also Scorpion hasnt performed the demnsion technique multiple times in slit secounds but he has performed it once in a split second. Still I didnt say it was to the same extent. also no one spoke about Nosgoth. Same could be said about Scorpion in his own hellish realm. Being beaten and being killed are to different things. Though Kain nor Scorpion at the time can be killed. They both can be beaten. Also TK shackles you say. I havet seen Kain perform this abilitiy. Please provide. So far i have seen kain only levitate objects and people. Why would he be deleted from existence. And who said the battle took place in Nosgoth. So this part is completely irrelevent. I didnt play the last mortal kombat but from what I have now learn that Scorpion is now on the champion of the gods. So we dont really have an idea what power he posses now. Also so easy with a gesture you say. I dont remembering seeing him doing this in the game I played. Nor have I seen direct evidence that it telekenesis. Just a glow. When I see a glow i think more magical than tk.
7. Once again you have failed. You have failed to prove yourself right. But yet succeded in proving that its a fact that your wrong. Nice video. already has been done. But it can deinetly be used for you more than for me. Seeing all you counters in this argument are rubbish. I have already given detail in which why your opinions are wrong. Get off the third grade definition of an opinion. An opinion can be wrong if it is uninformed or tries to contradict fact. You have done both. You made it clear and basicly admitted earlier on that you dont know nothing about Scorpion. Which proves that your uninformed. And you tried to contradict fact when you said that mist would survive in fire. Which is why you are wrong. I atleast know all of Kains abilities if not most. May not have experienced every single feat he has had but I have had gameplay to experience his abilities. You on the other hand not with scorpion.
Once again. Nice video. I'll be sure to send it to your family in about ten years when they tell you you are wrong aswell. Then they can play this video for you and yall can have a nice good laugh.
Scrubs FTW
1. oh but it will
2. "shrug"
3. You have the game but want me to prove that what Kain uses is TK? OMG!!! have you even played it? i think all youve done is watched a couple of videos, throughout the game its called TK, TK shackles, TK this, TK that, here ime tired of you lieing, heres a site that tells the moves, also you say you beat the game yet youve not heard of shackles, laughable......
http://www.dark-chronicle.co.uk/def/attackkain.php
TK shackles on there, he also states it as TK in the game, which you have?, you never did say what game it was, you simply said it was LOK, all 5 of the games are the LOK
once again, its you who has to prove your own statement, if neither of us can prove or disaprove it being TK, then its simple unstated and cannot be TK in your assumtion.
4. Yes the respect thread has the precious Videos if you look them up that your saying i have not posted and its legible because it has sites to information on the thing, all these abilities you say Scoprion has Kain either has the same or a better version, id give Scorp the credit of better Pyrokineisis.
5. w/e i did not bring up sigs......your simply overhpying Scoprion by saying simply because he is faster physically he can beat kain, just because he has some of kains abilities most at a lesser extent does not mean he is equel to kain.
6. Nosgoth is kains realm, scorpions is the hellish Netherrealm isnt it? or W/e the place is called, you said that he could take Kain into the Netherrealm and i replied by saying Kain can still escape with his own dimensional powers and take Scoprion into Nosgoth. Lmao at that remark again, not heard of TK shackles yet you completed the game? jokes....He would be deleted from excistence because if something happens in Nosgoth time that is not supposed to happen, for example Scoprion apearing in it...he would end up deleted or destroyed either way, time is immutable and it destroys things that are not supposed to happen. Because you said Scoprion would take Kain to Netherrealm, Kain will take Scopion to Nosgoth. At this moment in time i doubt your playing Defiance which is where TK is seen most.....he uses TK in BO 2 as well i think. Then again you say youve only played one of the 5 games.
7. oh yeh, and all your counters are so much better, hell no, the only good counter you had was with the mist, and thats for normal mist not kains physical mist, youd be trying to burn kain AND his mist form at the same time. You have not stated anything about how he can counter half the other attacks. You know all his abilities lmao...you know hardly anything on the guy from what youve posted, by now if V2D is actually playing which i belive he prob knows its TK or has already got the TK shackles ability, you apprenty have completed the game. Also take into account youve played one game, one that shows not half of Kains abilities.
erm....no.....
Originally posted by Burning thought
1. oh but it will2. "shrug"
3. You have the game but want me to prove that what Kain uses is TK? OMG!!! have you even played it? i think all youve done is watched a couple of videos, throughout the game its called TK, TK shackles, TK this, TK that, here ime tired of you lieing, heres a site that tells the moves, also you say you beat the game yet youve not heard of shackles, laughable......
http://www.dark-chronicle.co.uk/def/attackkain.php
TK shackles on there, he also states it as TK in the game, which you have?, you never did say what game it was, you simply said it was LOK, all 5 of the games are the LOK
once again, its you who has to prove your own statement, if neither of us can prove or disaprove it being TK, then its simple unstated and cannot be TK in your assumtion.
4. Yes the respect thread has the precious Videos if you look them up that your saying i have not posted and its legible because it has sites to information on the thing, all these abilities you say Scoprion has Kain either has the same or a better version, id give Scorp the credit of better Pyrokineisis.
5. w/e i did not bring up sigs......your simply overhpying Scoprion by saying simply because he is faster physically he can beat kain, just because he has [B]some
of kains abilities most at a lesser extent does not mean he is equel to kain.6. Nosgoth is kains realm, scorpions is the hellish Netherrealm isnt it? or W/e the place is called, you said that he could take Kain into the Netherrealm and i replied by saying Kain can still escape with his own dimensional powers and take Scoprion into Nosgoth. Lmao at that remark again, not heard of TK shackles yet you completed the game? jokes....He would be deleted from excistence because if something happens in Nosgoth time that is not supposed to happen, for example Scoprion apearing in it...he would end up deleted or destroyed either way, time is immutable and it destroys things that are not supposed to happen. Because you said Scoprion would take Kain to Netherrealm, Kain will take Scopion to Nosgoth. At this moment in time i doubt your playing Defiance which is where TK is seen most.....he uses TK in BO 2 as well i think. Then again you say youve only played one of the 5 games.
7. oh yeh, and all your counters are so much better, hell no, the only good counter you had was with the mist, and thats for normal mist not kains physical mist, youd be trying to burn kain AND his mist form at the same time. You have not stated anything about how he can counter half the other attacks. You know all his abilities lmao...you know hardly anything on the guy from what youve posted, by now if V2D is actually playing which i belive he prob knows its TK or has already got the TK shackles ability, you apprenty have completed the game. Also take into account youve played one game, one that shows not half of Kains abilities.
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1. Which proves your point irrelvent then.
2. hmph
3.Im not dumb. and it was Blood Omen II Blood Omen 1 is damage too badly. I just wanted you to prove your point. Or did it hurt that badly. Also. I do have and have played it. One me to post a pic with my genitals and id card on laying on the game with my other hand holding the controller?
4.A respect thread is still formulated by fans.
5.I didnt overhype nothing of Kain. He is physically faster than Kain. And is a better fighter. I also never stated he win in the category. I stated that Kains effiency in those categories which in my opinion will not give him the win. Since its really to close to tell since they have the same abilities. That it will boil down to to his is the better fighter which Scorpion obviously is.
6. Only stated to tell you that scorpion has his own realm aswell. Which is why this battle will take place most likely take place on neutraul territory. And also Kain will need to catch Scorpion to drag him to Nosgoth. Scorpion has showed the feat if you touch him he will simply fall into his domain. Or what he likes to call it. Hell.
7.Yes I had made it clear that i only played one game. I gave it the benefit of the doubt that i doubt know all of his abilities. I even went to say i know them not from experience. Some from experience. So i gave myself room for error. Also i dont know everything about Scorpion. I know mroe than the average fan and more than I care to know of.
But im done arguing. Stick to your opinion. Ill stick to mine.
Originally posted by Csdabest
1. Which proves your point irrelvent then.
2. hmph
3.Im not dumb. and it was Blood Omen II Blood Omen 1 is damage too badly. I just wanted you to prove your point. Or did it hurt that badly. Also. I do have and have played it. One me to post a pic with my genitals and id card on laying on the game with my other hand holding the controller?
4.A respect thread is still formulated by fans.
5.I didnt overhype nothing of Kain. He is physically faster than Kain. And is a better fighter. I also never stated he win in the category. I stated that Kains effiency in those categories which in my opinion will not give him the win. Since its really to close to tell since they have the same abilities. That it will boil down to to his is the better fighter which Scorpion obviously is.
6. Only stated to tell you that scorpion has his own realm aswell. Which is why this battle will take place most likely take place on neutraul territory. And also Kain will need to catch Scorpion to drag him to Nosgoth. Scorpion has showed the feat if you touch him he will simply fall into his domain. Or what he likes to call it. Hell.
7.Yes I had made it clear that i only played one game. I gave it the benefit of the doubt that i doubt know all of his abilities. I even went to say i know them not from experience. Some from experience. So i gave myself room for error. Also i dont know everything about Scorpion. I know mroe than the average fan and more than I care to know of.But im done arguing. Stick to your opinion. Ill stick to mine.
1. erm no it doesnt.....
2. smokey bacon is nice
3. Blood omen 2 youve been playing? that probably has the least powers of all the games, even less powers than the first one, infact hes prob the weakest of the kains. This is full powered kain without time manip isnt it, also i could of sworn its called TK in Blood omen 2 as well, when he lifts objects although this could be in Defiance, TK is definaltey in defiance.
4. it doesnt matter if the fans have added other websites with relevent information and videos from the game, the fact a fan has found them is irrelevent
5. Thats the problem, it will not fall to whos the better fighter, Kain has the best weapon by far here, one strike would smash Scopion into the dirt, now imagine that over and over in the space of a second through Dimension manip and i bet youll still somehow see Scorpion having a chance of winning....
6. i didnt know Scorpion actually has to touch kain to transport him, Kain doesnt have to touch, he is using the emblem of the Dimension guardian and through it, he can see into, go into and summon others through dimensions without even being in the same dimension.
fair enough agree to disagree