Originally posted by Violent2DopeNo. I came in here and made a response to the thread. Somebody insulted Trickster, I said I was surprised, because usually he's not great (when debating comics), but that he's not far off from some of the debating that goes on around here. Then you turned this into Comic Vs. vs. Games Vs., when I was only discussing different portrayals of Trick's debating.
You came in here and claimed TP is a superior debater than anyone here, meaning that comic vs.>game vs. Don't put the blame on me.Even in serious threads there is constant trolling, most trolling Nvr(for some reason).
Really? Look at some of the better debates we have had here, like Samus vs. Master Chief, Kratos vs. Link(one I participated in), or Devil Jin vs. Nightmare.
Really? One guy claimed WWH could beat Darkseid easily because he soloed Marvel Earth lol. Quanchi can debate when he needs to, but usually just trolls Nvr about how Batman made DS bleed and all that crap. The Storm fanboys...don't even get me started on them. Those fanboys just troll and downplay the opponent's characters while powerwanking their's.
Show me someone doing that. That almost never happens.
Even tho you started the discussion?
Most of the trollers are either jumping on a bandwagon, or (more likely) are in fact very good debaters who just don't care. If it's a thread where everybody knows the outcome but Nvr, and Nvr won't ever accept that he's wrong, people don't bother seriously pointing out his ineptitude.
Yes, really. Look at some of the old Mr. Master vs. GalacticStorm threads. The most recent Ironman-level amalgam debate tournament. Even the recent debates in Wonder Woman vs. Gladiator were a step above.
That's nice. And people claim Mario is Cl. 100, and can hold condensed stars in his palm... 🙂 And, under some situations, WWH could beat Darkseid. Exactly, Quanchi can debate decently when he needs to, and Quan is a sub-par debater. It's all relative.
The Stormtards aren't terrible debaters, just dishonest, rude, and biased. But, I'd still wager on 2damn looking better if we set up a Storm vs. Ganondorf thread. Or whatever. I'm not putting heavy thought into a hypothetical thread.
Hyperbole... lulz. 🙂
Originally posted by SaintSmurph1. Right, you compared him(considered to be an incompetant debater in comic vs.) to us, stating he is better at debating. So in actuality, you were saying our average is worse than your worst. Oh and btw, if compared to game vs. TP is such and uber debater, why did he get consistently pwned here?
No. I came in here and made a response to the thread. Somebody insulted Trickster, I said I was surprised, because usually he's not great (when debating comics), but that he's not far off from some of the debating that goes on around here. Then you turned this into Comic Vs. vs. Games Vs., when I was only discussing different portrayals of Trick's debating.Most of the trollers are either jumping on a bandwagon, or (more likely) are in fact very good debaters who just don't care. If it's a thread where everybody knows the outcome but Nvr, and Nvr won't ever accept that he's wrong, people don't bother seriously pointing out his ineptitude.
Yes, really. Look at some of the old Mr. Master vs. GalacticStorm threads. The most recent Ironman-level amalgam debate tournament. Even the recent debates in Wonder Woman vs. Gladiator were a step above.
That's nice. And people claim Mario is Cl. 100, and can hold condensed stars in his palm... 🙂 And, under some situations, WWH could beat Darkseid. Exactly, Quanchi can debate decently when he needs to, and Quan is a sub-par debater. It's all relative.
The Stormtards aren't terrible debaters, just dishonest, rude, and biased. But, I'd still wager on 2damn looking better if we set up a Storm vs. Ganondorf thread. Or whatever. I'm not putting heavy thought into a hypothetical thread.
Hyperbole... lulz. 🙂
2. Right...good debaters who don't care...Quan I will give you, he has proven he is at least competent, but what about the others, like that Red Shift fellow or whatever?
Nvr isn't anywhere near as bad as people make him out to be, people freak out when he makes a Thanos spite thread, but he only does that when Quan makes a Darkseid spite thread, like "Darkseid vs. A flight of stairs". There has NEVER been a game vs. thread I have seen that was that stupid. It is retarded.
3. Kay. Look at Kiljaedan vs. Lich King, Nightmare vs. Uther Lightbearer, or Pyron takes on the Aspect gauntlet, all fairly recent debates that went well, 2 I actively participated in. I never said ALL comic vs. debates are bad.
4. Mario being Cl. 100 is a common misconception that I disproved, it comes from SMW. I can't comment on holding condensed stars, I have no idea what nutcase came up with that. The only situation WWH could possibly(but prolly not) beat DS is in a slugfest. People there(three people) claim WWH would easily beat him under any circumstance. Quan is a decent debater when he's not being a biased troll.
5. Rutog thinks Storm would beat Phoenix Force. I can think of only one claim to top that. 2Damn looking better than me(I would be debating in it mostly) in a Ganon vs. Storm thread? Doubt it, his only "skill" is overhyping feats, calling things he dislikes PIS, and calling fallacies incorrectly.
What about Hyperbole?
Anyway, I am not claiming that games vs. is all in all better at debating, only that comic vs. does have some major flaws. I myself entered a debate with Creshosk and Nvr there, and unlike what many there like Quan would of/has done, I conceded when I was beat and don't hold a grudge. I recognize comic vs. has good debaters there, but it also has many fanboys and trolls. This is undeniable.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope1.Meh... I don't take it back. Trick's certainly not our worst, though he's closer to it than our best, I'll give you. Uber debater... haermm And, I haven't seen these "pwnings", so I won't comment, but I did make the notion that there was probably a distinction between his Comic Vs. debating capabilities, and his Games Vs.
1. Right, you compared him(considered to be an incompetant debater in comic vs.) to us, stating he is better at debating. So in actuality, you were saying our average is worse than your worst. Oh and btw, if compared to game vs. TP is such and uber debater, why did he get consistently pwned here?2. Right...good debaters who don't care...Quan I will give you, he has proven he is at least competent, but what about the others, like that Red Shift fellow or whatever?
Nvr isn't anywhere near as bad as people make him out to be, people freak out when he makes a Thanos spite thread, but he only does that when Quan makes a Darkseid spite thread, like "Darkseid vs. A flight of stairs". There has NEVER been a game vs. thread I have seen that was that stupid. It is retarded.
3. Kay. Look at Kiljaedan vs. Lich King, Nightmare vs. Uther Lightbearer, or Pyron takes on the Aspect gauntlet, all fairly recent debates that went well, 2 I actively participated in. I never said ALL comic vs. debates are bad.
4. Mario being Cl. 100 is a common misconception that I disproved, it comes from SMW. I can't comment on holding condensed stars, I have no idea what nutcase came up with that. The only situation WWH could possibly(but prolly not) beat DS is in a slugfest. People there(three people) claim WWH would easily beat him under any circumstance. Quan is a decent debater when he's not being a biased troll.
5. Rutog thinks Storm would beat Phoenix Force. I can think of only one claim to top that. 2Damn looking better than me(I would be debating in it mostly) in a Ganon vs. Storm thread? Doubt it, his only "skill" is overhyping feats, calling things he dislikes PIS, and calling fallacies incorrectly.
What about Hyperbole?
Anyway, I am not claiming that games vs. is all in all better at debating, only that comic vs. does have some major flaws. I myself entered a debate with Creshosk and Nvr there, and unlike what many there like Quan would of/has done, I conceded when I was beat and don't hold a grudge. I recognize comic vs. has good debaters there, but it also has many fanboys and trolls. This is undeniable.
2. It's true. Look at Bran, Validus, Soljer, Creshosk, Batdude.
Red Shift is actually a decent debater. Again, I point you to Wonder Woman vs. Gladiator.
Nvr's very, very bad for fanboyism. He argues that Darkseid = 5 Odins, that Wonder Woman stood up to an enraged sundipped Superman with decent writing, and that certain rules only apply to "his" characters.
As for stupid threads, the primary reason is that Nvr trys to underhandedly make his characters look better by creating irrational stipulations to attempt to prove that the same thing would happen under normal circumstances.
Quanchi just creates other threads to make fun of him.
And just as many people would like Quan to leave as Nvr.
3. Tell you what, I'll look at them, if you look at the ones I mentioned. 🙂
4. But just recently dissproved... it wasn't even particularly fanboyish types that were boasting it.
Frankly, people actually believed it. And I've seen many more arguments for supposition than would ever pass in Comics Vs.
Just saying... 🙂
5. 2damn could. Granted, most would disagree with him, but most consider him to be mentally deficient.
And I'm claiming we're a more developed, better debating (when we need to be) community.
Granted, we probably have more douches. But it's easier to label someone a douche, ignoramus, or fanboy in general when debating comics... I won't get into why though, because that's a much different discussion.
Originally posted by SaintSmurphhttp://www.killermovies.com/forums/f85/t446800.html
1.Meh... I don't take it back. Trick's certainly not our worst, though he's closer to it than our best, I'll give you. Uber debater... haermm And, I haven't seen these "pwnings", so I won't comment, but I did make the notion that there was probably a distinction between his Comic Vs. debating capabilities, and his Games Vs.
Near the end of the page.
That's just an idea of what has happened to TricksterPriest during his entire stay here.
Originally posted by SaintSmurph1. He has been pwned badly, and is notorious here for being a Streetfighter and Rugal fanboy, and that's just what I know.
1.Meh... I don't take it back. Trick's certainly not our worst, though he's closer to it than our best, I'll give you. Uber debater... haermm And, I haven't seen these "pwnings", so I won't comment, but I did make the notion that there was probably a distinction between his Comic Vs. debating capabilities, and his Games Vs.2. It's true. Look at Bran, Validus, Soljer, Creshosk, Batdude.
Red Shift is actually a decent debater. Again, I point you to Wonder Woman vs. Gladiator.
Nvr's very, very bad for fanboyism. He argues that Darkseid = 5 Odins, that Wonder Woman stood up to an enraged sundipped Superman with decent writing, and that certain rules only apply to "his" characters.
As for stupid threads, the primary reason is that Nvr trys to underhandedly make his characters look better by creating irrational stipulations to attempt to prove that the same thing would happen under normal circumstances.
Quanchi just creates other threads to make fun of him.
And just as many people would like Quan to leave as Nvr.
3. Tell you what, I'll look at them, if you look at the ones I mentioned. 🙂
4. But just recently dissproved... it wasn't even particularly fanboyish types that were boasting it.
Frankly, people actually believed it. And I've seen many more arguments for supposition than would ever pass in Comics Vs.
Just saying... 🙂
5. 2damn could. Granted, most would disagree with him, but most consider him to be mentally deficient.
And I'm claiming we're a more developed, better debating (when we need to be) community.
Granted, we probably have more douches. But it's easier to label someone a douche, ignoramus, or fanboy in general when debating comics... I won't get into why though, because that's a much different discussion.
2. Batdude has had a good debate in a battlezone that I helped judge, Cresh is a good debater and bested me in one, the others I don't know.
He's also a troll/epic phail. I have seen some dumbass things from him.
He believes Darkseid>Odin, sure, but what is so bad about that? Quan uses bullshit showings like being kicked by Batman to troll Nvr and downplay Darkseid. WW did stand up to him, but was still knocked the shit out of, wasn't she?
I'm mostly talking about Thanos spite threads for Nvr. I think you are talking about that one thread where Darkseid fights a bunch of transcendants or sumthin with the ALE, he was trying to prove it was part of his powerset.
To troll him.
Quan is much worse than Nvr.
3. 😐 I didn't know we would actually have to loom at them lol. 😆
4. Like I said, a common misconception. He is shown lifting a "castle" in Super Mario World, some people took that ending literally, when it was really only there for humor. The star thing I'll admit is ridiculous.
And people believe normal Hulk is stronger than PC Superman.
5. 2Damn may beat me due to admittedly I don't read comics as much as I once did and may be lacking on the knowledge department, but I still doubt Storm could best an invulnerable character with vast magic power that holds the divine power of a god.
It prolly seems that way because you have more posters there, comics are a little easier to debate for then video games, because in comics, the characters literally talk to themselves about their feat they are doing.
It's because people are dicks and comics can be inconsistent and PIS is more prominent in comics, and some people ignore PIS to suit their argument.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope1. Meh
1. He has been pwned badly, and is notorious here for being a Streetfighter and Rugal fanboy, and that's just what I know.2. Batdude has had a good debate in a battlezone that I helped judge, Cresh is a good debater and bested me in one, the others I don't know.
He's also a troll/epic phail. I have seen some dumbass things from him.
He believes Darkseid>Odin, sure, but what is so bad about that? Quan uses bullshit showings like being kicked by Batman to troll Nvr and downplay Darkseid. WW did stand up to him, but was still knocked the shit out of, wasn't she?
I'm mostly talking about Thanos spite threads for Nvr. I think you are talking about that one thread where Darkseid fights a bunch of transcendants or sumthin with the ALE, he was trying to prove it was part of his powerset.
To troll him.
Quan is much worse than Nvr.
3. 😐 I didn't know we would actually have to loom at them lol. 😆
4. Like I said, a common misconception. He is shown lifting a "castle" in Super Mario World, some people took that ending literally, when it was really only there for humor. The star thing I'll admit is ridiculous.
And people believe normal Hulk is stronger than PC Superman.
5. 2Damn may beat me due to admittedly I don't read comics as much as I once did and may be lacking on the knowledge department, but I still doubt Storm could best an invulnerable character with vast magic power that holds the divine power of a god.
It prolly seems that way because you have more posters there, comics are a little easier to debate for then video games, because in comics, the characters literally talk to themselves about their feat they are doing.
It's because people are dicks and comics can be inconsistent and PIS is more prominent in comics, and some people ignore PIS to suit their argument.
Meh... he's a good debater, just also doesn't care.
No, he believes Darkseid = 5 Odins... 😐
And Wonder Woman should have been obliterated. Plus, he was far from "Sundipped".
I'm talking about shit like this.
KK points out WW beat a White Martian even though Martian's can't be beaten by running out of breath...
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um, It was never implied that she ran out of breath. It was shown on panel wonder Woman just fighting the martian in space.
Originally posted by KK the Great
A swing and a miss!
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
That doesn't say she won by holding her breath longer. At all.
3. Just to point it out. I suppose I can quote, otherwise.
4. Only a couple of fanboys.
5. I know, which is why I wouldn't set up the match. But, my point is made.
And, yes, comics are easier to debate, but that only makes us more developed. I still point you to, say, Mr. Master vs. Galactic Storm threads...
Actually, it's (IMO) because of game mechanics.