Originally posted by Kutulu
That's not even 616 Hulk. You lose. 🙄
Actually X-Men First Class is in 616 continuity. 😕
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=139483
http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/12/06/ghost-of-fred-van-lente-future-wolverine-first-class/
"And it means all our First Class tales are official parts of X-Men lore, in “616″ continuity, as they say, which is really exciting."
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Actually X-Men First Class is in 616 continuity. 😕http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=139483
http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/12/06/ghost-of-fred-van-lente-future-wolverine-first-class/"And it means all our First Class tales are official parts of X-Men lore, in “616″ continuity, as they say, which is really exciting."
Rounds up and the judges declare you winner.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I can see john turning invisible and just playing with Hulk. Hulk doesn't really have the senses to deal with a super fast, shape changing, invisible, phasing, metamorph, who happens to be super strong, telepathic, and carries a big stick in the form of Martian Vision.
His eyeballs can actually see invisible things.
His eyeballs can also lift mountains.
Martian Manhuner i still don´t see Hulk as one of the most powerfulls even after world war hulk.
Hulk can´t hit someone intagible.
MM has complete control over his body at a molecular level his ability to regenerate his probably superior to the hulk.
he has pretty much superman´s powers.
Hulk won´t be able to see him if he´s invisible.
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Originally posted by ExodusCloak👆
Actually X-Men First Class is in 616 continuity. 😕http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=139483
http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/12/06/ghost-of-fred-van-lente-future-wolverine-first-class/"And it means all our First Class tales are official parts of X-Men lore, in “616″ continuity, as they say, which is really exciting."
Originally posted by Nod
I am.
None too successfully.
The scans I posted are nothing like Batman being able to hit Superman. That requires only Superman not using his speed. In the scans I posted, J'onn and Flash are clearly drawn as a green and red ball of blurred speed.
Regardless, it is far from the only example of J'onn having superspeed.
Originally posted by Juntai
So if your point of view is that Hulk is the strongest, and he's immune to whatever, more power to you, but good luck trying to convice others of that when he's up against another character who can compare to him decently at his main attributes and then has another 20 powers on top, plus is a strategic genius.I believe there's characters with less versatility than MM who can down down the Manhunter, but not a one trick pony like Hulk.
sorry to change the subject, but isnt that a good reason silver surfer should beat superman? Just saying...
Originally posted by Loot
Martian Manhuner i still don´t see Hulk as one of the most powerfulls even after world war hulk.Hulk can´t hit someone intagible.
MM has complete control over his body at a molecular level his ability to regenerate his probably superior to the hulk.
he has pretty much superman´s powers.
Hulk won´t be able to see him if he´s invisible.etc
etc
etc
1. The Vision tried phasing into the Hulk.... He'll never try something like that again.
2. The Hulk crushed Dr. Strange's hand while he was in an intangible state.
3. The Hulk has the ability to see invisible objects.
4. The Hulk fought Sentry who happens to be super fast. Oh yea and he won!
5. J'onns stats have changed a little but, he still can only maintain Superman level feats for about 5 minutes. The Hulk will outlast him.
6. Professor Xavier could not control his mind and was hurt in the attempt from a psychic backlash.
7. The Hulk has shown how well he can cope when phased into solid rock.
8. Lobo turned J'onn out, and could do it again any day of the week. If he can take J'onn down the Hulk could most certainly do so as well.
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
1. The Vision tried phasing into the Hulk.... He'll never try something like that again.
2. The Hulk crushed Dr. Strange's hand while he was in an intangible state.
3. The Hulk has the ability to see invisible objects.
4. The Hulk fought Sentry who happens to be super fast. Oh yea and he won!
5. J'onns stats have changed a little but, he still can only maintain Superman level feats for about 5 minutes. The Hulk will outlast him.
6. Professor Xavier could not control his mind and was hurt in the attempt from a psychic backlash.
7. The Hulk has shown how well he can cope when phased into solid rock.
8. Lobo turned J'onn out, and could do it again any day of the week. If he can take J'onn down the Hulk could most certainly do so as well.
1. Vision's phasing is nothing like J'onn's. And that smells like PIS.
2. BS. Strange took himself out of Astral form.
3. No, he can see Astral forms and ghosts. Not the same.
4. whatdur Sentry's not that fast, and this means what against someone who is more powerful than Superman who himself is >>Sentry?
5. When the hell has this been the case in the last 5 years? Manhunter isn't that weak anymore.
6. J'onn's TP>>>Xavier's. Also smells like PIS.
7. Pointless, since J'onn can sooooo much more damage than what Kitty did.
8. And that's a low feat? 🤨 Lobo would eviscerate Hulk as well. Hulk's not fast enough, not smart enough, not versatile enough, and in the case of Lobo, not crazy or bloodlusted enough.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
8. And that's a low feat? 🤨 Lobo would eviscerate Hulk as well. Hulk's not fast enough, not smart enough, not versatile enough, and in the case of Lobo, not crazy or bloodlusted enough.
It's not even all that cut and dry. J'onn was about to lay into Lobo, but then Barda told him not to hit him too hard for fear of making him bleed (this was back when each drop of blood grew into a clone). So J'onn was basically handicapped from attacking him and was just stalling for time.
Originally posted by KK the Great
None too successfully.The scans I posted are nothing like Batman being able to hit Superman. That requires only Superman not using his speed. In the scans I posted, J'onn and Flash are clearly drawn as a green and red ball of blurred speed.
Regardless, it is far from the only example of J'onn having superspeed.
I was referring to the Joker bit. I didn't really see the second. Scan wasn't working.
But well done. 👆
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
1. The Vision tried phasing into the Hulk.... He'll never try something like that again.
2. The Hulk crushed Dr. Strange's hand while he was in an intangible state.
3. The Hulk has the ability to see invisible objects.
4. The Hulk fought Sentry who happens to be super fast. Oh yea and he won!
5. J'onns stats have changed a little but, he still can only maintain Superman level feats for about 5 minutes. The Hulk will outlast him.
6. Professor Xavier could not control his mind and was hurt in the attempt from a psychic backlash.
7. The Hulk has shown how well he can cope when phased into solid rock.
8. Lobo turned J'onn out, and could do it again any day of the week. If he can take J'onn down the Hulk could most certainly do so as well.
you really believed hulk crushed strange hands in astral plane? LMAO That´s ridiculous and impossivel of course strange left the astral plane when he tought banner was in control.
Wahat i was going to say was already told by TricksterPriest so ther´s no point in repeating ideas.