The Superman-Prime Respect Thread

Originally posted by thanos-prime
Prime had problems his whole universe was destroyed if that happened to you and then you tried to help and then find out you had been replaced and no one even knows what you did for them you would be pissed to

Exactly and it was the writers intention that SBP wasnt supposed to be a villian. It was supposed to be a complex story with no true good or bad guys. Hell in IC Batman almost killed Alex after Alex almost killed Nightwing. Obvoulsy if he had actually killed Nightwing theres a very good chance he would have killed Alex. The point that they were trying to make is eveybody has their breaking point even Batman.

Also that dimension made his sanity questionable.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
Prime had problems his whole universe was destroyed if that happened to you and then you tried to help and then find out you had been replaced and no one even knows what you did for them you would be pissed to

Originally posted by jalek moye
i highly doubt i'd try to kill billions of people who werent there. if i Did i was obviously past the redeeming point.

Im not sure what your point is but your in no position to judge. When you lose everything come back and talk to me.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Im not sure what your point is but your in no position to judge. When you lose everything come back and talk to me.

and you arnt either have you lost your whole world and universe either.

and we can judge someone even if we havnt done it, When you kill people who werent involved it doesn't matter what happened.

Originally posted by jalek moye
and you arnt either have you lost your whole world and universe either.

I havent lost my whole world and universe but have I nearly lost everything, yes. Ive actually been through very similar circumstances to SBP which is why im not quick to judge.

Originally posted by jalek moye

and we can judge someone even if we havnt done it, When you kill people who werent involved it doesn't matter what happened.

Im not saying that killing is ok, nor do I want to kill anybody but the fact of the matter is it doesnt matter how good you are everybody has a breaking point even you. Which was the point of IC.

No offence but you are most likely taking this stance because you have absoultely no knowledge or understanding what it means to go through shit like that. Hell I even used to be like you and a while back would have taken your stance, its until some f*ked up shit happened to me gave me an insight into how people become really screwed up.

The fact of the matter is its not a simple issue and you dont know anything about the subject matter which is why you have a simplistic view of it.

I odn't have simplistic view its just that it really doesn matter what happened to him. He killed an entire world and tried to kill others, and pretty much everyone he has killed had absoulutly nothing to do with his situation. Doesn't matter if he was good and broke the point was that he had done irredemmable evil. He went to the point that almost no one would. Sure people break and do some messed up stuff but he went to one of the farthest points of it.

Originally posted by jalek moye
I odn't have simplistic view its just that it really doesn matter what happened to him.

OH REALLY? Oh so you think if you were a street kid from Brazil who was disowned by his parents got raped, shot at and beaten up on a regular basis you can guarantee me you woulndt flip out some day and kill somebody? Dont tell me some shit about thats not what happened to SBP because its supposed to illustrate a point, the point is people can start out good but things can turn out so bad they become bad. Thats the point they were trying to make and they probably know something of the subject matter.....you dont. You really got the balls to turn out around and say to that kid hes a bad person when you havent been through anything like that?

The fact of the matter is you can sit behind your computer while everything is easy for you.

Originally posted by jalek moye

He killed an entire world and tried to kill others, and pretty much everyone he has killed had absoulutly nothing to do with his situation. Doesn't matter if he was good and broke the point was that he had done irredemmable evil. He went to the point that almost no one would. Sure people break and do some messed up stuff but he went to one of the farthest points of it.

You dont know what the hell you're talking about because you've never been through shit like that. Hell he was almost driven crazy but im pretty sure you wouldnt have gone crazy. 🙄

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
OH REALLY? Oh so you think if you were a street kid from Brazil who was disowned by his parents got raped, shot at and beaten up on a regular basis you can guarantee me you woulndt flip out some day and kill somebody? Dont tell me some shit about thats not what happened to SBP because its supposed to illustrate a point, the point is people can start out good but things can turn out so bad they become bad. Thats the point they were trying to make and they probably know something of the subject matter.....you dont. You really got the balls to turn out around and say to that kid hes a bad person when you havent been through anything like that?

Once again I can gurantee you that I would kill a bunch of random people no matter what gets taken from me tommorow. Because thats who I am I don't belive in hurting innocent people It's not who I am. Theres a difference in killing a person out of anger and emotion like most poeople when they break then laughing and making fun of everyone you kill then going and destroying an entire world and trying to do the same to others.

Originally posted by jalek moye
if he flips out a kills a random person taht does nothing to him for no reason at all then yes I can and will say that. If he is upset about it then i might say different.

Great so what you're saying is that you feel your in a position to judge people who have been through things that you couldnt even imagine and have not experienced?

pretty much. everyone does.

Unless you are saying you never condemmed a serial killer or a guy who rapes a bunch of kids then murders them. And just dismiss it all as well they had mess up lives so its ok everyone breaks.

Originally posted by jalek moye
pretty much. everyone does.

Thats pretty arrogant you obvoulsy think you're some sort of saint. Yeah cos that makes it ok. I dunno man if I were rich I would feel kind bad judging a poor guy for stealing, somehow that doesnt seem to bother you.

Originally posted by jalek moye

Unless you are saying you never condemmed a serial killer or a guy who rapes a bunch of kids then murders them. And just dismiss it all as well they had mess up lives so its ok everyone breaks.

Er thats NOT what im doing im not saying its ok. You cant dismiss it as its ok because his life was messed up but at the same time you have to acknowledge the fact that certain factors can turn ordinary people bad.

You just seem to think that people are just either good or evil and external factors have nothing to do with it, thats not reality.

Originally posted by jalek moye
i highly doubt i'd try to kill billions of people who werent there. if i Did i was obviously past the redeeming point.

Thats the thing were not even sure wether SBP is sane.

oh he is definitely crazy he doesn't know the difference between right and wrong

Originally posted by thanos-prime
oh he is definitely crazy he doesn't know the difference between right and wrong

Fair enough that clinches it.

the whole flying through oa proves that his mental state is messed up

Originally posted by thanos-prime
his intention wasn't to kill billions of people he beat up super boy then the doom patrol and teen titans attacked him then he accidently killed another person so from then on he finally just went mad

And was gonna destroy new earth at one point

Originally posted by jalek moye
yea at the beginng. But he destroyed an earth also later on

And was gonna destroy new earth at one point

Originally posted by jalek moye
yea at the beginng. But he destroyed an earth also later on

And was gonna destroy new earth at one point

Anyway it could damn well be argued that hes not sane.

Originally posted by jalek moye

Once again I can gurantee you that I would kill a bunch of random people no matter what gets taken from me tommorow. Because thats who I am I don't belive in hurting innocent people It's not who I am. Theres a difference in killing a person out of anger and emotion like most poeople when they break then laughing and making fun of everyone you kill then going and destroying an entire world and trying to do the same to others.

Oh and by the way no you cant.