Ghost Rider vs Wendigo

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
I know, just saying. Plus, neither did the knives.

Did she? I thought she got one-shotted hard...

Because he bled a couple times? Plus, he also never to my recollection showed pain from those punches... he just bled.

Of course... but, on the blood topic... GR didn't make Hulk bleed, he just 'hurt' him... a lot it seemed.

But they seemed to have done more damage

I believe they trade-blowed in a tie-in book and that's when it happened.

He did the moan and rwars, but considering Savage Hulk has taken class 10 blows in the past and never showed pain. Just gets madder and thus stronger.

But that's it, causing physical damage is key

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist

And if Ghost Rider is being held back... how is that relevant?

I can't see how this is the best example to use... All he did was slap them around. Namor could have done the same if we follow that fight. 😬

Well, I'd like Wendigo to have some feats without going over the top. So, the hosts that seem around the same power, feats will be used, etc.

Shaman's magic, and GR's don't work the same... and that's all I'll say about that.
Plus, would Strange's power work against Wendigo, just because Shaman's couldn't/whatever?

2nd fight he was at the end, he wasn't being held back all of both of the fights

But it showed more then just slapping around though, soul attacks, penance stare, speed, etc.

Shaman's magic is without a doubt one of the best in the Marvel U., even Dr.Strange and Gaea believe this. So considering what Shaman has done, and the power he has. That's a HUGE feat.

Ideally no they shouldn't, as the Gods of the Arctic are the one who protect the Wendigo as they created the curse.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
But they seemed to have done more damage

I believe they trade-blowed in a tie-in book and that's when it happened.

He did the moan and rwars, but considering Savage Hulk has taken class 10 blows in the past and never showed pain. Just gets madder and thus stronger.

But that's it, causing physical damage is key

Don't believe I saw a big battle from the two...

Class 10?

And I was asking how much it would have hurt Wendigo.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
2nd fight he was at the end, he wasn't being held back all of both of the fights

But it showed more then just slapping around though, soul attacks, penance stare, speed, etc.

Shaman's magic is without a doubt one of the best in the Marvel U., even Dr.Strange and Gaea believe this. So considering what Shaman has done, and the power he has. That's a HUGE feat.

Ideally no they shouldn't, as the Gods of the Arctic are the one who protect the Wendigo as they created the curse.

The Penance Stare, and the Soul Attacks are really the only things you can gather out of that (minus Spider-Man getting caught). 😬 They won't work, fair enough, but the rest of the battle isn't exactly the best example for this fight. As, other than the last battle I guess... Namor could have done the same thing.

Huge feat... maybe, but again, they don't work the same. Plus, are most of GR's attacks even considered purely magical?
Is the Wrath of God magical (Marvel)? 😖hifty:

Intriguing...

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
All they did was hold his muscles in place for a panel or two. Wolverine cut his eyes, and was digging through his forearms.

Don't believe I saw a big battle from the two...

Class 10?

And I was asking how much it would have hurt Wendigo.

Wolverine's eye attack literally did nothing as Hulk didn't even skip a beat from it.

Class 100, just a typo

There wasn't, very fast but still blows made him bleed [I'll have to look into this, as I vaguely recall this..but don't quote me on it]

Hurt, but not do much in real damage.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
And he did attacks that don't affect Wendigo anyway...
Considering Johnny doesn't fight like Danny... and doesn't use soul attacks like that. Wendigo might get lucky and get the PS, but that's about it... because other than that, Johnny is going to attack the body (which, oddly enough, has worked in the past).

The Penance Stare, and the Soul Attacks are really the only things you can gather out of that (minus Spider-Man getting caught). 😬 They won't work, fair enough, but the rest of the battle isn't exactly the best example for this fight. As, other than the last battle I guess... Namor could have done the same thing.

Huge feat... maybe, but again, they don't work the same. Plus, are most of GR's attacks even considered purely magical?
Is the Wrath of God magical (Marvel)? 😖hifty:

Which strengthens Wendigo's case, as what could GR do? Danny WAS always stronger then Johnny, it's only recently it's changing as Blaze is getting Daniel's past powers and now their getting augmented. Yeah and one Wendigo was killed by Sabretooth in minutes, that's what you call PIS.

Ummm..Wendigo caught Spider-Man a few times, so why is it minus? That doesn't make sense. No he really couldn't, as what your saying below his powers work definetly and can take different kind of attacks.

Maybe? It is a huge feat, you know what Shaman is capable of..and if you don't, you should. Even if they don't work the same, what can GR do that Shaman couldn't do? Also yeah they generally are as they were demonic in nature as his essence challened into the attacks. Now with the wrath of god, who knows maybe next issue will explain it.

No one really has said HOW GR is going to beat Wendigo.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Wolverine's eye attack literally did nothing as Hulk didn't even skip a beat from it.

Class 100, just a typo

There wasn't, very fast but still blows made him bleed [I'll have to look into this, as I vaguely recall this..but don't quote me on it]

Hurt, but not do much in real damage.

Ah. OK then. As a couple class 100 punches had no effect on WWH.
Also, earlier in GR's fight, he did nothing to Hulk... Hulk just laughed at him. And even regular one is pretty powerful.

OK.

And if he unleashes more than that?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Which strengthens Wendigo's case, as what could GR do? Danny WAS always stronger then Johnny, it's only recently it's changing as Blaze is getting Daniel's past powers and now their getting augmented. Yeah and one Wendigo was killed by Sabretooth in minutes, that's what you call PIS.

Ummm..Wendigo caught Spider-Man a few times, so why is it minus? That doesn't make sense. No he really couldn't, as what your saying below his powers work definetly and can take different kind of attacks.

Maybe? It is a huge feat, you know what Shaman is capable of..and if you don't, you should. Even if they don't work the same, what can GR do that Shaman couldn't do? Also yeah they generally are as they were demonic in nature as his essence challened into the attacks. Now with the wrath of god, who knows maybe next issue will explain it.

No one really has said HOW GR is going to beat Wendigo.

I said 'minus', as in, I wasn't talking about Spider-Man. I was only using GR.

It's one word. 😐 Don't look too far into it.
So, Shaman knows exactly what every attack would do, or what it could do in every fight? I'm sure even the 'great' Shaman doesn't do this in every fight. 🙂 Hell, we didn't even know what he was doing... well, I didn't anyway...
Also, I believe Shaman admitted that Strange was better than him... 😖hifty:

Ask them. 🙂

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
He got hurt from it...

Ah. OK then. As a couple class 100 punches had no effect on WWH.
Also, earlier in GR's fight, he did nothing to Hulk... Hulk just laughed at him. And even regular one is pretty powerful.

And if he unleashes more than that?

Not seriously as he then proceeded to take Wolverine out quite easily

Class 100 punches have had no effect on Savage Hulk as well. Actually Ghost Rider has defeated Hulk in the past, by burning out all the air around him causing him to pass out.

*shrugs* With demi-godlike durability he shouldn't be in bad shape but you never know.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist

Huge blasts, chain whips, throws exploding sharp shit at him, a lot of kinky stuff basically... I don't know, I've never said who would win, I believe.
So, if Johnny is more powerful... ermm

I said 'minus', as in, I wasn't talking about Spider-Man. I was only using GR.

It's one word. 😐 Don't look too far into it.
So, Shaman knows exactly what every attack would do, or what it could do in every fight? I'm sure even the 'great' Shaman doesn't do this in every fight. 🙂 Hell, we didn't even know what he was doing... well, I didn't anyway...
Also, I believe Shaman admitted that Strange was better than him... 😖hifty:

Ask them. 🙂

and I don't see how half of that stuff is actually going to do any long lasting damage, or damage to Wendigo. Even classic Guardian [who was no sloutch in power] merely staggered him but did nothing of real note worthy against him due to the Gods spell.

Ok

Since he has indepth knowledge about Wendigo from communication from the spirits and talking to the Gods of the Arctic themselves I think its safe to assume the 'great' Shaman is an expert in the manner 😖hifty:. Snowbird a child of the Gods of the Arctic agreed on the manner as well.

Strange IS better, but the fight when Dr.Strange recently fought GR was a fight Dr.Strange could have won but had a breakdown as he thought he killed GR and in turn damned the world.

I'm not saying Wendigo wins myself, just informing the public.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Not seriously as he then proceeded to take Wolverine out quite easily

Class 100 punches have had no effect on Savage Hulk as well. Actually Ghost Rider has defeated Hulk in the past, by burning out all the air around him causing him to pass out.

*shrugs* With demi-godlike durability he shouldn't be in bad shape but you never know.

I know... but lower have as well, if we're going to get into that...

And he couldn't defeat WWH normal... I don't see where this is going.

Perhaps.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
and I don't see how half of that stuff is actually going to do any long lasting damage, or damage to Wendigo. Even classic Guardian [who was no sloutch in power] merely staggered him but did nothing of real note worthy against him due to the Gods spell.

Ok

Since he has indepth knowledge about Wendigo from communication from the spirits and talking to the Gods of the Arctic themselves I think its safe to assume the 'great' Shaman is an expert in the manner 😖hifty:. Snowbird a child of the Gods of the Arctic agreed on the manner as well.

Strange IS better, but the fight when Dr.Strange recently fought GR was a fight Dr.Strange could have won but had a breakdown as he thought he killed GR and in turn damned the world.

I'm not saying Wendigo wins myself, just informing the public.

Perhaps.

So, he was using this knowledge then? Why didn't he just transform into a Wolverine then... 😖hifty:

Meh, it just showed the Penance Stare... plus, he basically beat Johnny, and when the Spirit took over...
Plus, I don't see how him paying attention would have stopped him anyway.

Of course... of course.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
And...
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I know... but lower have as well, if we're going to get into that...

And he couldn't defeat WWH normal... I don't see where this is going.

Perhaps.

Sorry can you explain what's happening in the scan as I can't open it. Every time I click it, my comp locks up 🙁

But at his average levels he basically did what WWH did and more though. WWH really didn't impress me till the Sentry fight.

Well I believe Dr.Strange said he was capable of defeating him or something along those lines.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
It worked fine against Satan... perhaps it won't, perhaps it will... that's why I made the thread.

So, he was using this knowledge then? Why didn't he just transform into a Wolverine then... 😖hifty:

Meh, it just showed the Penance Stare... plus, he basically beat Johnny, and when the Spirit took over...
Plus, I don't see how him paying attention would have stopped him anyway.

Well Satan gave him the boost in power so he could escape, and actually wants him to kill his 616 avatars *shrugs* I really really really hope the last Devil host shows uber skills as thus far, Lucifer doesn't seem that uber. I think there's 2 or 3 avatars left now or something? Could his magic work on Wendigo? *shrugs* Can't say it can or can't for certain.

*Shrugs* Not sure, he seemed to know his power wouldn't stop him. He might have did stuff off-panel and that's how he came to that conclusion or knew otherwise right off the bat. He can't, because he isn't a child of the Gods 😖hifty:

Well he was kneeled over crying [not really, but you know what I mean] and that's when GR used his chains to bind DS and gave him the penance stare.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Sorry can you explain what's happening in the scan as I can't open it. Every time I click it, my comp locks up 🙁

But at his average levels he basically did what WWH did and more though. WWH really didn't impress me till the Sentry fight.

Well I believe Dr.Strange said he was capable of defeating him or something along those lines.

Anyway... Huc pops out the knives, gets grabbed, and headbut KO's Warpath. He took out Warpath far easier than he took out Wolves miser.

OK. Doesn't change the fact that he was shown as far stronger than he usually is.

Doc was able to one shot Savage Hulk... if he had his hands, there's no reason to believe he can't beat WWH.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Well Satan gave him the boost in power so he could escape, and actually wants him to kill his 616 avatars *shrugs* I really really really hope the last Devil host shows uber skills as thus far, Lucifer doesn't seem that uber. I think there's 2 or 3 avatars left now or something? Could his magic work on Wendigo? *shrugs* Can't say it can or can't for certain.

*Shrugs* Not sure, he seemed to know his power wouldn't stop him. He might have did stuff off-panel and that's how he came to that conclusion or knew otherwise right off the bat. He can't, because he isn't a child of the Gods 😖hifty:

Well he was kneeled over crying [not really, but you know what I mean] and that's when GR used his chains to bind DS and gave him the penance stare.

So... has he even iyo ever succumbed to cis?
Blarg.

I can't really see Strange get away even if he was ready... unless he teleported away, anyway. 😬

****! My comp locked up again when I was typing my reply.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
You can't view Photobucket?
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Anyway... Huc pops out the knives, gets grabbed, and headbut KO's Warpath. He took out Warpath far easier than he took out Wolves miser.

OK. Doesn't change the fact that he was shown as far stronger than he usually is.

Doc was able to one shot Savage Hulk... if he had his hands, there's no reason to believe he can't beat WWH.

Of course he would take out Warpath easily, I was pointing out the knives rather then Warpath himself.

Majority of the times yeah I can view it, but now my comp is so f'ed up it keeps locking up. It's an old comp, and thankfully I'm getting a new one.

But his durability wasn't anything impressive, strength sure but durability? meh!

Sure, I was talking about Strange saying GR could potentially beat Hulk.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist

There's two left... and GR seemingly just killed the second last one. Meh, Strange beat Lucifer in his realm I believe.
And how about magic physical attacks?

So... has he even iyo ever succumbed to cis?
Blarg.

I can't really see Strange get away even if he was ready... unless he teleported away, anyway. 😬

I thought this Lucifer was suppose to be now, and before it was merely Mephisto as "Lucifer"

Shockingly I can't really think of an instance, but you would think as he is usually always feral. I have most of Wendigo's apperances in the respect thread sans 2 I believe. He really doesn't fall under CIS.

Or freeze time, gone intangiable, teleported GR, etc. He had means.

GR lights him up like a dirty rug soaked in gasoline.

Originally posted by jinzin
GR lights him up like a dirty rug soaked in gasoline.

Depending on the host, Wendigo would get scared by the flames and run away.

It's a good thing GR doesn't have a nose, I bet Wendi's pretty rank.

Originally posted by jinzin
It's a good thing GR doesn't have a nose, I bet Wendi's pretty rank.

Burnt hair is an acquired taste I suppose

Originally posted by King_Mungi
****! My comp locked up again when I was typing my reply.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Of course he would take out Warpath easily, I was pointing out the knives rather then Warpath himself.

Majority of the times yeah I can view it, but now my comp is so f'ed up it keeps locking up. It's an old comp, and thankfully I'm getting a new one.

But his durability wasn't anything impressive, strength sure but durability? meh!

Sure, I was talking about Strange saying GR could potentially beat Hulk.

OK.

Perhaps. He was still able to take shots that would/should have put down Savage.

OK.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
I thought this Lucifer was suppose to be now, and before it was merely Mephisto as "Lucifer"

Shockingly I can't really think of an instance, but you would think as he is usually always feral. I have most of Wendigo's apperances in the respect thread sans 2 I believe. He really doesn't fall under CIS.

Or freeze time, gone intangiable, teleported GR, etc. He had means.

Talking about Shaman.

He doesn't do that often... or IMO enough to even be brought into a forum battle... Plus, intangible? Are yous talking about Astral Form?

It wouldn't just be burnt though, it's like burnt AND soiled. Ewwww..

I wonder who ... hey wait I got an idea for a new thread!
(*runs off*)

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/thl_09d4a1ecc882bb4b0d9a06b82ed9571.gif

I kid you not it locked up twice trying to open that

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist

All the knives did was lock his muscles until he tried to free them... Wolve's claws was able to slice his fase, arms, etc. And dat waz teh after Warpath I believe (been a while since I read that).

Perhaps. He was still able to take shots that would/should have put down Savage.

Yet, the claw attacks didn't even leave damage for long. Like Hulk's eye were pretty much fine right after he was done slashing him. Yeah that was it for Warpath

Like what? Sans the Sentry fight.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist

uhdunno.

Talking about Shaman.

He doesn't do that often... or IMO enough to even be brought into a forum battle... Plus, intangible? Are yous talking about Astral Form?

Oh..haha yeah he does.

Heh! Yet it still does get brought up quite abit. Naaa, he has gone intangiable without going astral form leaving his physical body open for attacks

Originally posted by jinzin
It wouldn't just be burnt though, it's like burnt AND soiled. Ewwww..

I wonder who ... hey wait I got an idea for a new thread!
(*runs off*)

Heh! and you actually made who smells the worse thread. Nice

hehehe yeah I don't remember ever having one of those.

Originally posted by jinzin
hehehe yeah I don't remember ever having one of those.

Like I said in the other thread, welcome back we missed you 😆

Originally posted by King_Mungi
I kid you not it locked up twice trying to open that

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Quicksilver09-04.jpg

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Yet, the claw attacks didn't even leave damage for long. Like Hulk's eye were pretty much fine right after he was done slashing him. Yeah that was it for Warpath

Like what? Sans the Sentry fight.

If we were led to believe it was the real Bolt... Blackbolt, Strange's onslaught, probably Tony's new machine... something else... etc.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Oh..haha yeah he does.

Heh! Yet it still does get brought up quite abit. Naaa, he has gone intangiable without going astral form leaving his physical body open for attacks

If you woulds't be so kind... can you point me to this cheery event?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Like I said in the other thread, welcome back we missed you 😆

lol, thanks man, good to be home. thumbsup