Mewtwo vs Kain

Originally posted by Csdabest
Why wouldnt he. What the difference between Mist and Kain urning into mist? It still a substanc and that wouldt make it immune to attack maybe physical atk but not tk. Mewtwo doesnthave control like your thinking over weather.He TK is sooo powerful he was able to manipulate the weather with his telekenesis.

Also whats to stop Mewtwo from shutting off Kain's powers like Mewtwo did to the othe 150 or so pokemon....

kain turning into mist is still kain, he isnt exactley mist, its supernatural substance but its still material, only kain cannot be blown away, simple, he is still physical but cant be cut etc etc

what...what are you talking about, he can manipulate weather, be more specific, Kain can manipulate the weather and call lighting, but ive not seen M2 do that sort of thing so what does M2 do.....

well first Kain is no pokemon, it would not be the same and you would have to prove its not like i belive to do with the fact he had all their DNA stored at the same time as being linked to them himself, also Kains powers do not come initially form kain, most of them come from the sword and its magic, you would have to prove he can affect magic powers with this "shut-off" effect you describe, it sounds like a mind thing to me

Originally posted by Burning thought
kain turning into mist is still kain, he isnt exactley mist, its supernatural substance but its still material, only kain cannot be blown away, simple, he is still physical but cant be cut etc etc

what...what are you talking about, he can manipulate weather, be more specific, Kain can manipulate the weather and call lighting, but ive not seen M2 do that sort of thing so what does M2 do.....

well first Kain is no pokemon, it would not be the same and you would have to prove its not like i belive to do with the fact he had all their DNA stored at the same time as being linked to them himself, also Kains powers do not come initially form kain, most of them come from the sword and its magic, you would have to prove he can affect magic powers with this "shut-off" effect you describe, it sounds like a mind thing to me

He control the weather trough manipulating it with TK. All over the globe, he simply twist and turn, heaten and cool it to create storms and harsh weather. All his powers are based on TK. Everything he does is just a super advanced form of TK.

When he block their attacks, he does not make them unable to use them. He close their abilities in. Pikachu generated lighting, but could not launch it. So he create a barrier around the target more or less, prefenting them to use what they use.

Real mist is immune to attacks as well, but can still be manipulated. And if a fan can manipulate the mist in the real world, I think one of the most advanced TK characters ever can manipulate super mist.

As for the magic thing, Gyarados use a magical attack and Mewtwo reflected it by raising his hand. His block is indeed a mind thing. But from Mewtwo's mind. It has nothing to do with the opponents mind, as he only effect the enviroment of the character.

Originally posted by Burning thought
kain turning into mist is still kain, he isnt exactley mist, its supernatural substance but its still material, only kain cannot be blown away, simple, he is still physical but cant be cut etc etc

what...what are you talking about, he can manipulate weather, be more specific, Kain can manipulate the weather and call lighting, but ive not seen M2 do that sort of thing so what does M2 do.....

well first Kain is no pokemon, it would not be the same and you would have to prove its not like i belive to do with the fact he had all their DNA stored at the same time as being linked to them himself, also Kains powers do not come initially form kain, most of them come from the sword and its magic, you would have to prove he can affect magic powers with this "shut-off" effect you describe, it sounds like a mind thing to me

For the third part. It has nothing to do with them being partnered. And provide evidence that the DNA was linked was linked to his. When the powers he blocked aswell were natural born pokemon. So no he basicly cut them off with his TK. Also whats to stop M2 from controlling Kain arm making him not able to hold the sword or ripping it from his Grip.

Originally posted by Csdabest
For the third part. It has nothing to do with them being partnered. And provide evidence that the DNA was linked was linked to his. When the powers he blocked aswell were natural born pokemon. So no he basicly cut them off with his TK. Also whats to stop M2 from controlling Kain arm making him not able to hold the sword or ripping it from his Grip.

kain does not need his sword to rip M2 apart with his bare hands nor does he need it to teleport or put up his shield, then M2 is a gonner

Kain will put up his shield before M2 can do a move strong enough to stop kain completly

Kind of funny.Kain will already be on the floor flat on his face unable to move or draw up a barrier. M2 mind is jizzes on a supercomputer in speed. And telekenesis is an ability of the mind. So if he mind is that fast his teleknesis is that fast aswell. You said he doesnt need his sword hell rip him apart with his bare hands. How when he cant get close cuz of m2 godlike TK. Kain is not the only person who can teleport. Put up a barrier. WHats to stop Kain and his barrier being sent into the sun by M2 TK. Kain with the placements set gets beaten hands down. Outmatched clearly. I think even with time manip given how fast Mewtwo mind is Kain would stand much of a chance aswell since you have to think to get the time manip to work and Mewtwo mind is way faster than Kains.

Originally posted by Csdabest
Kind of funny.Kain will already be on the floor flat on his face unable to move or draw up a barrier. M2 mind is jizzes on a supercomputer in speed. And telekenesis is an ability of the mind. So if he mind is that fast his teleknesis is that fast aswell. You said he doesnt need his sword hell rip him apart with his bare hands. How when he cant get close cuz of m2 godlike TK. Kain is not the only person who can teleport. Put up a barrier. WHats to stop Kain and his barrier being sent into the sun by M2 TK. Kain with the placements set gets beaten hands down. Outmatched clearly. I think even with time manip given how fast Mewtwo mind is Kain would stand much of a chance aswell since you have to think to get the time manip to work and Mewtwo mind is way faster than Kains.

id like to have someone show me M2 actually being so accurate with his TK, ive seen M2 destroy large objects nad things, but it takes accurate TK powers to be able to effect for example a hand, that MK guy can use TK apprently but all ive seen him do is smack bodies up and down, can someone show me a source that shows him controlling something like a hand?

Kains shields refelcts physical, TK is physical, M2 will be helpless like a baby in a pram if that shield goes up

M2 would die eventually and i still have not been shown anything to suggest in the slightest M2 actually keeping this up for a long amount of time

M2 will eventually falter, Kain will put his shield up and that will be the end, M2 pies for dinner or blood if the thing has blood

Or he just TKs Kain before Kain can blink. This whole fight revolves around one thing, the speed of M2's mind, it is so much faster than Kain's there is not point to this thread.

Originally posted by Burning thought
M2 would die eventually and i still have not been shown anything to suggest in the slightest M2 actually keeping this up for a long amount of time

You mean other than the fact that he can TK Kain from miles away and teleport yet miles away if Kain comes near?

Or simply turn Kain into stone? 🙂

Originally posted by Fuddle
You mean other than the fact that he can TK Kain from miles away and teleport yet miles away if Kain comes near?

Or simply turn Kain into stone? 🙂

what are you talking about, as i said as soon as he lets his guard down once, he is kains because kain with a hand movement will have a shield around himself

when has he turned someone into stone?

and no V2D, simply because his mind is faster does not mean everything, just becuase he can stop kain in his tracks does not mean he can do it indefinatley, it takes mind concentration, eventually hes going to get a very sore headache, and thats if its provable that M2 can actually stop Kains hand from moveing or even realise it

Originally posted by Burning thought
when has he turned someone into stone?

In the first movie.

Originally posted by Fuddle
In the first movie.

he turns someone to stone and rock, sounds completly out of character and not part of his power set, how does he do this? can anyone show me this please?

does he do it as fast as he does TK? who does he do it to? is the effect permanant?

Originally posted by Burning thought
he turns someone to stone and rock, sounds completly out of character and not part of his power set, how does he do this? can anyone show me this please?

does he do it as fast as he does TK? who does he do it to? is the effect permanant?

He petrified Ash when he ran in front of a blast that was meant for Mew. He turned into stone/crystal. It was trough an attack that he charged for a couple of seconds.

The effect was death. However, he was revived by the tears of pokemons 🙂

Originally posted by Fuddle
He petrified Ash when he ran in front of a blast that was meant for Mew. He turned into stone/crystal. It was trough an attack that he charged for a couple of seconds.

The effect was death. However, he was revived by the tears of pokemons 🙂

i want to see actual official information describing this move, sounds a bit weird and its not stone is it if all it did was stun sort of thing, thats not turning him to stone, see this is why i need official information, you just said it turns you to stone when ash doesnt go to rock.....

I can get you some screenshots in a serie, but that is the best I can do I am afraid 🙁

Here is the chain of events 🙂

He wasn't stone, Pikachu couldn't make stone move, and he moved Ash.

M2 casually controlled weather worldwide with TK, it would take a long time for him to tire out from holding Kain. During this time, he could be slowly waging war with Kain's mind, a war M2 would eventually win.

He was some kind of hard material. However I can not recal Pikachu move him. I have to watch it again 😛

Alright. His body moved slightly when Pikachu pushed him. However the electrical shocks had zero effect and he did not move the slightest when Pikachu shocked him.

Soooooo, Mewtwo turned him into..... plastic?

Tears of the Pokemon?Corniest thing ever in movie history....EVER

Pokemon tears have great healing abilities.