Mewtwo vs Kain

whats funnier is that all those sites are describing what is working to cause the effect, the effect is physical itself, simply because the character is using mental means to cause an effect, the effect is physical eventually, and in this case, it will be using mental force to physically move kain, you phail....

thats why its Telekinetic, Tele describes the mental doing it, Kinetic is physical nature of the ability even though the ability itself is not physical, its effect is causing something physical

For the sake of it, I grab 'Answers.com' which is one of my favorite sources 🙂

Telekinesis

The movement of objects by scientifically inexplicable means, as by the exercise of an occult power.

¤ The power to move something by thinking about it without the application of physical force.
- Synonym: psychokinesis

And I have no idea what you just said, Burning Thought.

thats the same as his sources, mental projection, only thing is, M2 is using this TK to cause a physical effect which is moving kain in this case 🙂 simplified it for you

Wow. You now going aginst definitions.

ki¡¤net¡¤ic /kɪˈnɛtɪk, kaɪ-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ki-net-ik, kahy-] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
¨Cadjective 1. pertaining to motion.
2. caused by motion.
3. characterized by movement: Running and dancing are kinetic activities.

ki¡¤net¡¤ic (kə-n¨§t'ĭk, k¨©-) Pronunciation Key
adj.
Of, relating to, or produced by motion.
Relating to or exhibiting kinesis.

once again your wrong

Main Entry: 1phys¡¤i¡¤cal
Pronunciation: \ˈfi-zi-kəl\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English phisicale medical, from Medieval Latin physicalis, from Latin physica
Date: 1580
1 a: of or relating to natural science b (1): of or relating to physics (2): characterized or produced by the forces and operations of physics
2 a: having material existence : perceptible especially through the senses and subject to the laws of nature <everything physical is measurable by weight, motion, and resistance ¡ª Thomas De Quincey> b: of or relating to material things <labor, in the physical world, is¡_employed in putting objects in motion ¡ª J. S. Mill>
3 a: of or relating to the body <physical abuse> b (1): concerned or preoccupied with the body and its needs : carnal <physical appetites> (2): sexual <a physical love affair> <physical attraction> c: characterized by especially rugged and forceful physical activity : rough <a physical hockey game> <a physical player>

Wrong again

So no you fail. Learn the meanings of the words. The definition specificly says it movement without physical means. No physical. At all. All what you saying is a wrong perspective.

If you know what physical is. You will know that telekenesis lack most if not all the charateristics to be classified as "physical"

Telekenetic definitions and the indepth definition and history stated in wikipedia clearly says that telekenesis works outside of physical laws. So your just wrong. stop trying to change definition. Those are not examples. Those are definitions. It says it webster, dictionarys, biblical dictionaries.

Not describing or giving examples. DEFINING. Do i have to pull out the definition of describing and giving examples and defining.

no your wrong and youve lost the meanings, those deifnations are correct indeed, ofc its saying that TK itself is using mental to cause an effect using no physical means, problem is, the effect that isnt useing physical means to happen is a physical effect itself

as that second physical deifnition says, all things physical can be measured in weight (the force that hits kain to move him), Motion (kain moving) and ressitence (kain)...this makes the effects outcome physical even if the Tk itself is not physical which the shield of kain protects against

game....set...and match

That makes Kain physical. Not TK. Whats the weight of Teleknesis. How is TK moving and what is its motion. what is TK resistence. it has none really. Your wrong. You said it yourself. That kain is moving. Kain is resisting. it doesnt have the physical attributes. You are wrong. For godsakes. i know it painful to admit ur wrong. But your wrong.

So your saying Kain sheild will stop Kain from moving. so he is a sitting target. Then M2 just takes hold of kain with tk and flings him into the sun.

Originally posted by Csdabest
That makes Kain physical. Not TK. Whats the weight of Teleknesis. How is TK moving and what is its motion. what is TK resistence. it has none really. Your wrong. You said it yourself. That kain is moving. Kain is resisting. it doesnt have the physical attributes. You are wrong. For godsakes. i know it painful to admit ur wrong. But your wrong.

erm know your just begging me to be wrong....thats your problem and thats why you phail because ime not which is why its funny

TK is not physical but its creating physical effects which kains shield protects against , what i just said makes the effects physical, the fact Kain is in most of them is because it would be effecting kain

also since when has he flung anything into the sun (not that it would do anything) and as i said no it does not stop kain moving, when did i say that

It does not matter if Kain moves, has his shield or try fight Mewtwo's mental forces with his own. Nothing Kain can do will stop the TK of Mewtwo 🙂

Originally posted by Fuddle
It does not matter if Kain moves, has his shield or try fight Mewtwo's mental forces with his own. Nothing Kain can do will stop the TK of Mewtwo 🙂

ofc not, the problem is the TK wont be making any effect on kain whatsoever and eventually Kain will just walk up to M2 casually and rip off his head or stick his two forefinger claws into M2 eyes....simple

or mind rapes M2 by getting into the things head, its brain although very powerful is still trickable as Giavani shows us and he is not able to read thoughts afaik otherwise he would of known what Giovani was up to (sorry for spellings of the guys name)

When you said it stops physical actions from happening. Which mean kain wont be able to move. Oh and since his organs moving is physical those should working to. Since his sheild stops physical actions from happening. TK is moving Kain. Not shooting him with a blast. A sheild protects from other not from yourself. TK should and will be able to move inside of the sheild.

Matter afact. Post videos, give sources, and the whole nine yards about Kains sheild. actual sources. Not your word. Because im not begging. Your in Denial. Your attempting to change definition and what something is to defend your character. By you sayingIm wrong. Your saying the definition is wrong. Your saying that acredited sites made from acredited people who definition come from acredited researches scientist, and philosophers are wrong. I have backed the TK and what it is with definition. You have provided nothing but ignorance in this debate. So untill your provide sources, to your claim. Im not going to take your seriously. Im just going to assume that all that your saying is nothing but a joke. I have shown other sites with other intelligent people, friends, with degrees and they laugh at your ignorance.

I swear. God or what ever supernatural being you beleive in can tell you your wrong, but your ignorance and pride for something you love will still push you to refuse your utter wrongness.

Originally posted by Burning thought
ofc not, the problem is the TK wont be making any effect on kain whatsoever and eventually Kain will just walk up to M2 casually and rip off his head or stick his two forefinger claws into M2 eyes....simple

or mind rapes M2 by getting into the things head, its brain although very powerful is still trickable as Giavani shows us and he is not able to read thoughts afaik otherwise he would of known what Giovani was up to (sorry for spellings of the guys name)

We do know that he totally emptied the mind of Sister Joy. He more or less pulled her knowledge about pokemons right out of her head.

Giovanni was only capable of manipulate Mewtwo because he was born ten minutes ago 😛 At that very point, Mewtwo did not even know what he was, where he was or what a pokemon/human, power or partnership was.

ime sory Csdabest but you must be so sad its funny, i dont belive in no fake anomoly such as a God and your simply losing your ground so fast, you may as well concede and fall away, this debate seems to of become bigger than you are 🙂

also the shield is simply a protection over kain, it does not allow enemies (M2 in this case) to affect him with both physical and magic effects and M2 just wont have to time to do anything once the shield up because right there kain will take the chance to TK little M2 down to the ground and crush the things head like a mouse

http://www.dark-chronicle.co.uk/bo1/spells.php

on here its called Repel, a protective Aegis that protects kain against all attacks

Originally posted by Fuddle
We do know that he totally emptied the mind of Sister Joy. He more or less pulled her knowledge about pokemons right out of her head.

Giovanni was only capable of manipulate Mewtwo because he was born ten minutes ago 😛 At that very point, Mewtwo did not even know what he was, where he was or what a pokemon/human, power or partnership was.

well how old is he at his oldest point? i need some information to show that his mind at its peak can ressit mind control itself, i remember that the weakness of psychic pokemon was other psychic powers was it not? i cannot remember very well, and M2 so far has only shown destructive power but has not had his mind ripped into, or have illusions put in front of him like kain would do

Originally posted by Burning thought
well how old is he at his oldest point? i need some information to show that his mind at its peak can ressit mind control itself, i remember that the weakness of psychic pokemon was other psychic powers was it not? i cannot remember very well, and M2 so far has only shown destructive power but has not had his mind ripped into, or have illusions put in front of him like kain would do

Originally posted by Burning thought
ime sory Csdabest but you must be so sad its funny, i dont belive in no fake anomoly such as a God and your simply losing your ground so fast, you may as well concede and fall away, this debate seems to of become bigger than you are 🙂

also the shield is simply a protection over kain, it does not allow enemies (M2 in this case) to affect him with both physical and magic effects and M2 just wont have to time to do anything once the shield up because right there kain will take the chance to TK little M2 down to the ground and crush the things head like a mouse

http://www.dark-chronicle.co.uk/bo1/spells.php

on here its called Repel, a protective Aegis that protects kain against all attacks

Mewtwo is as large or larger than Kain first of all 😛

Secondly, no way Kain can compare his TK to Mewtwo. He is all others superior, since he is more or less on top of the ladder in TK power. With a bare thought, he launch a horde of 250lbs pokemons into the air.

And it says that Repel only last for a short amount of time. If Mewtwo notice his attacks ineffective (Which they wont be) he will just teleport himself to the other side of the world 😛

Also to add into the soup, Mewtwo's TK is no spell. It protects Kain from spells 🙂

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Psychic pokemon are weak vs Ghost types, and have no effect on Dark.

Psychic pokemons, are weak against ghost pokemons, but Mewtwo is no normal pokemon. He is an enchanted version of the most powerful psychic pokemon that has ever existed. He is one of the first (if not the only) psychic pokemon that has manipulated etheral things.

Originally posted by Fuddle
Psychic pokemons, are weak against ghost pokemons, but Mewtwo is no normal pokemon. He is an enchanted version of the most powerful psychic pokemon that has ever existed. He is one of the first (if not the only) psychic pokemon that has manipulated etheral things.