Mewtwo vs Kain

Originally posted by Burning thought
well how old is he at his oldest point? i need some information to show that his mind at its peak can ressit mind control itself, i remember that the weakness of psychic pokemon was other psychic powers was it not? i cannot remember very well, and M2 so far has only shown destructive power but has not had his mind ripped into, or have illusions put in front of him like kain would do

He is just about a year or two, I believe 🙂

Mewtwo has stood in front of a trained Alakazam without the Alakazam being capable of even making Mewtwo move a muscle before he gets defeated. The alakazam even started sweating from the large amount of TK that he tried use, but he was no where near to match the massive force that Mewtwo used.

Mewtwo has not shown one single weakness trough his entire appearance. He defeated every single pokemon trainer that challenged Viridian Gym with a single thought. He stood a meter away from a Charizard that brought up a near inferno on Mewtwo without a scratch. He has been harmed twice in his entire career.

Once, he walked willingly into a machine that he knew would harm him.

The second time he was caught by surprise when Mew blasted him.

deleting my post. cuz my friends told me stop bothering. Have fun all future debators

Originally posted by EvilAngel
...er.....ok?

Just saying that the fact that Mewtwo is psychic pokemon changes nothing. He is not like other pokemons and does not share the weaknesses that other pokemons of the same type has 🙂

Originally posted by Fuddle
Just saying that the fact that Mewtwo is psychic pokemon changes nothing. He is not like other pokemons and does not share the weaknesses that other pokemons of the same type has 🙂

The other half of Fuddle 🙂

Originally posted by Csdabest
deleting my post. cuz my friends told me stop bothering. Have fun all future debators

I see you around in some other thread some other time 😄

Originally posted by Fuddle
Mewtwo is as large or larger than Kain first of all 😛

Secondly, no way Kain can compare his TK to Mewtwo. He is all others superior, since he is more or less on top of the ladder in TK power. With a bare thought, he launch a horde of 250lbs pokemons into the air.

And it says that Repel only last for a short amount of time. If Mewtwo notice his attacks ineffective (Which they wont be) he will just teleport himself to the other side of the world 😛

Also to add into the soup, Mewtwo's TK is no spell. It protects Kain from spells 🙂

M2 isnt much larger than a human is he?

doesnt matter does it, Kain is lifting M2, not M2 TK.....

Kain could cast it again and again....

it reflects spells, it protects kain against all attacks but spells it reflects back but not other attacks, it just stops them

Originally posted by Fuddle
The other half of Fuddle 🙂

Like Ying & Yang?

- He is taller than an adult
- How will he lift something he will never get close? 😛
- Can you show me when he casts it over and over again?
- It will still not help him anything against Mewtwo's TK. Other than protecting him from damage for the short period that it is active.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Like Ying & Yang?

More like Bing & Bong 🙂

Originally posted by Fuddle
- He is taller than an adult
- How will he lift something he will never get close? 😛
- Can you show me when he casts it over and over again?
- It will still not help him anything against Mewtwo's TK. Other than protecting him from damage for the short period that it is active.

2. whta you talking about, his TK reaches as far as his sight afaik, and that was without the mind emblem of the mind concept, so M2 would have to be too far away to even know kain

3. no its a spell, its made with a gesture what could possibly make you think he cannot cast it again? its an invuelrability shield that lasts for an amount of time, theres no reason why he cannot recast the shield, i could prob show you if it wasnt such an old gmae

4. sure it will, M2 wont touch kain and Kain will simply teleport behind M2 and slice its head off with the reaver in a blast that would prob gib M2, or TK M2 into the ground as i said before, since when can M2 always teleport across the world anyway otherwise he would be able to escape the various methods in the films used to take him out in a flash, unless ofc his teleport is slow.....when does he teleport across the world?

Originally posted by Burning thought
2. whta you talking about, his TK reaches as far as his sight afaik, and that was without the mind emblem of the mind concept, so M2 would have to be too far away to even know kain

3. no its a spell, its made with a gesture what could possibly make you think he cannot cast it again? its an invuelrability shield that lasts for an amount of time, theres no reason why he cannot recast the shield, i could prob show you if it wasnt such an old gmae

4. sure it will, M2 wont touch kain and Kain will simply teleport behind M2 and slice its head off with the reaver in a blast that would prob gib M2, or TK M2 into the ground as i said before, since when can M2 always teleport across the world anyway otherwise he would be able to escape the various methods in the films used to take him out in a flash, unless ofc his teleport is slow.....when does he teleport across the world?

2. Mewtwo lifts a buss from miles away, even though both forest, mountain and lakes are in the way.

3. I think so because some abilities that character uses can only be applied for certain amounts of time, then they have to wait before applying it again.

4. Have you seen the movies? There is not one single moment in the movies where he needs to flee? He teleport at a shorter amount than the blink of an eye and he teleport miles per time. It would not take him many moments to be on the other side of the planet.

The only reason you do not see him flee in the movies, is because he never wishes to flee. Not one single point in the two movies give him any reason to not be where he is when he is there 🙂

Originally posted by Fuddle
2. Mewtwo lifts a buss from miles away, even though both forest, mountain and lakes are in the way.

3. I think so because some abilities that character uses can only be applied for certain amounts of time, then they have to wait before applying it again.

4. Have you seen the movies? There is not one single moment in the movies where he needs to flee? He teleport at a shorter amount than the blink of an eye and he teleport miles per time. It would not take him many moments to be on the other side of the planet.

The only reason you do not see him flee in the movies, is because he never wishes to flee. Not one single point in the two movies give him any reason to not be where he is when he is there 🙂

2. miles away okie....

3. the only limit on kains shielding is his energy

4. youve asked me whever ive seen the movies or not, and so he cannot teleport to the otherside of the planet straight away then, kain will just follow M2 then.....Kain as you should know can also teleport

Originally posted by Fuddle
First of all, hi and welcome to the forum 🙂

Sorry but Mewtwo has never been captured. Two times alone have Mewtwo not been free.

First time, he served under Giovanni freely. Giovanni said they would be partners and he said he would teach Mewtwo how to master his powers. Since Mewtwo was newly born and had no idea about the world, he was easily manipulated. He believed Giovanni and he fought for him, as trade to that Giovanni taught him to control his powers.

Second time, Giovanni blackmailed Mewtwo. He threatened to destroy the island that he and his pokemon friends resided at. He threatened to kill all the pokemons in cruel experiments. Mewtwo's moral caught up with him, and as long as Giovanni promised not to harm the pokemons, Mewtwo would give himself to him freely. Which he did, and stepped into a powersource that neglected his powers. Giovanni hoped Mewtwo would get tired after some time, and be capturable. Which never happened.

THEN Ash came and destroyed the device that tried to tame Mewtwo. That is probably the part you think about, when Ash saves him.

so uhhh why didnt he just kick his arse rather than surendering, surly that shows weakness

Originally posted by Csdabest
Kain no time manip,soul rip, or dimenslide.

Who would win this battle

It's pretty obvious that Mewtwo would win this.

Only Kain fanboys would say otherwise.

Originally posted by Ozone
It's pretty obvious that Mewtwo would win this.

Only Kain fanboys would say otherwise.

only tactles debaters (or those who cannot debate at all) whould say what you just said.....

but i lol at you, so carry on 😄

Originally posted by Burning thought
2. miles away okie....

3. the only limit on kains shielding is his energy

4. youve asked me whever ive seen the movies or not, and so he cannot teleport to the otherside of the planet straight away then, kain will just follow M2 then.....Kain as you should know can also teleport

2. Miles each time (Each time being just about one second)

3. Can you show me this? 🙂

4. How effective and well controled is Kain's compared to Mewtwo's teleport?
I asked because you said he could have escaped all the times he needed to in the movies.
I just pointed out that he has never had any reason to do so.

Originally posted by ShikasEmoTwin
so uhhh why didnt he just kick his arse rather than surendering, surly that shows weakness

Because Giovanni had his agents spread all over Purity Canyon and if anything would have happend to Giovanni, Mewtwo would more or less have doomed his beloved pokemons to missery. He is powerful, but he can not be at multiple places at once.

Originally posted by Fuddle
More like Bing & Bong 🙂

Or like Romeo and Juliet, or Father Christmas and Mother Christmas.

Or Timon and Pumbaa 😄