1 Guardian (Ganthet) vs. Odin

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Please, where's proof of that huh?

LOL. It tells you there still galaxies and not just empty space they were impacting. Done with another god? That's funny cause I recall Surtur destroying a galaxy to forge his sword, the sword he needed to prevent Odin to using the full Odin Force.

Wow. Big whoop. Didn't Newjak just tell you about Thor used Mjlornir to absorb Grandmaster's bomb that would have destroyed the universe.

And Mjlornir was enchanted by Odin, like Stormbreaker was.

Wow, don't you mean a race of beings who each have the power to explode themselves to pieces just to remove SBP and Doomsday to another reality? I recall Odin raising his hand and moving the Earth populace to another dimension. Odin was still in one piece afterwards. I also recall Odin killing top gods of other pantheons and death/hell lords: Zeliah, Forsung, Seth, and Hela.

So infinite was their power that they needed to kill themselves to to remove SBP and Doomsday with a GL ring? They die but their opponents aren't? Wow, big fricken whoop. Odin kills death gods and resurrects them. He kills head gods of other pantheons.

So what's Ganthet's feats and battle feats again? Who'd Ganthet beat and killed?

Your post is laughable. Thor's hammer absorbed the power of a 5th of universal destroying power. Kyle's ring held the power of a big bang that not only would wipe away one uinverse but Start another. In effect the power of TWO celestial events in one. done by ganthets power.

You do realize that doomsday had a GL ring and that his will to kill was infinite. It was the ring that was allowing doomsday to tap into the very power of the gaurdian itself. SHows how much you know LMAO.

It was also ganthet's power that contributed to Gog who was able to pierce hypertime. And let's not forget, there are only one set of guaridans Fueling ALL of the GL"s power thruout the MUltiverse.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Atom by Atom. A WEAKER gaurdian. Ganthet was the guardian that gave kyle, the most powerful GL ring EVER. Ganthet is also most likely the power source for the new blue corps. Oh, and Odin couldn't even shake a planet without two other skyfather's during his last days. He's a far cry from the guy who used to be able to destroy dead galaxies.

Most likely?

How do we know that Ganthet will empower the Hope Corps?

Originally posted by llagrok
Most likely?

How do we know that Ganthet will empower the Hope Corps?

He created Kyles ring out of his own power. The one that had all the uber feats. He is shown on panel creating a blue ring as well.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And I've seen the Dead Galaxy non feat.

So who'd Ganthet beat in a fight again? What's his feats?

Odin beating up the other god of the multiverse shattering fight:
http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=odinseth044kb.jpg

Takes a death gods power away and later returns them:
http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thor1981314190we.jpg
http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thor1981314203dt.jpg

Imprisoning Surtur, the Surtur that destroys a galaxy y'know?
http://img345.imageshack.us/my.php?image=journeyintomystery099185iv.jpg

Kills the leader of the Enchanters, Forsung:
http://img70.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thorvol2517015096gs.jpg

Not only can he beat down top gods and hell lords but appearantly he can remove beings from one reality to another without exploding his being into a billion pieces like those blue dwarfs.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
So who'd Ganthet beat in a fight again? What's his feats?

Odin beating up the other god of the multiverse shattering fight:
http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=odinseth044kb.jpg

Takes a death gods power away and later returns them:
http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thor1981314190we.jpg
http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thor1981314203dt.jpg

Imprisoning Surtur, the Surtur that destroys a galaxy y'know?
http://img345.imageshack.us/my.php?image=journeyintomystery099185iv.jpg

Kills the leader of the Enchanters, Forsung:
http://img70.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thorvol2517015096gs.jpg

Not only can he beat down top gods and hell lords but appearantly he can remove beings from one reality to another without exploding his being into a billion pieces like those blue dwarfs.

Who needs to fight when your a guardian? Which is the point of thier power. The most powerful of race of beings who shape abstracts like putty. Will is an abstract. Feat is an abstract. Ganthet Bitched the purest for of Fear with the greatest of ease.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
[B]Your post is laughable. Thor's hammer absorbed the power of a 5th of universal destroying power.

Newjak already answered this.

Newjak

And it wasn't a bunch of bombs that together could only destroy a 1/5th of the universe it was 5 bombs each one in and of itself capable of destroying 1/5th of the Universe which as the Grandmaster said would destroy all of it.

Kyle's ring held the power of a big bang that not only would wipe away one uinverse but Start another. In effect the power of TWO celestial events in one. done by ganthets power.

Dude don't stretch that feat. He contained the explosion of the big bang. A Big bang creates a universe and that's what he contained, a big bang. That's it. One feat, not two.

You do realize that doomsday had a GL ring and that his will to kill was infinite. It was the ring that was allowing doomsday to tap into the very power of the gaurdian itself. SHows how much you know LMAO.

Yeah, I do know that fight. I mentioned Doomsday with the GL ring in that same post, go back and read what you quoted. 🙄

Nope, he was tapping into the power of that ring. Once a ring runs out of power, you recharge said ring with a green latern. Hence why they're called the Green Laterns. 🙄

Tapping into a ring is indirectly using a guardian's power. It's not the same as tapping directly into the power of a guardian or having the power of a guardian.

It was also ganthet's power that contributed to Gog who was able to pierce hypertime.

So? How much of that is Ganthet's power and how much of it is Phantom Stranger's or Highfathers? LOL

And let's not forget, there are only one set of guaridans Fueling ALL of the GL"s power thruout the MUltiverse.

You mean one race of guardians and of whom Ganthet is among? So I ask you, what are Ganthet's battle feats that makes you think he can beat Odin and not get kicked around like a ball.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Who needs to fight when your a guardian? Which is the point of thier power. The most powerful of race of beings who shape abstracts like putty. Will is an abstract. Feat is an abstract. Ganthet Bitched the purest for of Fear with the greatest of ease.

In other words he ain't gotz battle feat and would get kicked like a ball by Odin.

By the way, which abstract shaping feat are you talking about? Will and feat? Hahahahahaha! And fear? OMG! Odin's scared.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Newjak already answered this.

Dude don't stretch that feat. He contained the explosion of the big bang. A Big bang creates a universe and that's what he contained, a big bang. That's it. One feat, not two.

Yeah, I do know that fight. I mentioned Doomsday with the GL ring in that same post, go back and read what you quoted. 🙄

Nope, he was tapping into the power of that ring. Once a ring runs out of power, you recharge said ring with a green latern. Hence why they're called the Green Laterns. 🙄

Tapping into a ring is indirectly using a guardian's power. It's not the same as tapping directly into the power of a guardian or having the power of a guardian.

So? How much of that is Ganthet's power and how much of it is Phantom Stranger's or Highfathers? LOL

You mean one race of guardians and of whom Ganthet is among? So I ask you, what are Ganthet's battle feats that makes you think he can beat Odin and not get kicked around like a ball.

Surely you think odin is power, but couldn't even knock Thanos out. a weaker guardian empowered SBP with enough power to pierce the multiverse with ease and kidnap mr. mxy.

Also, I just love your NOT listening to what being said. The Imperiex Destroys one universe as he creates another. TWO feats in ONE.

The Guardian in question sacrificed himself becuz doomsday was adapting and would have been able to absorb the power of the battery itself. In the fight, The guardian even talks about how doomsday is adapting to his own ( the guardian's) energy. Please do tell, did we read the same story?

As for how much power ganthet contributed to Gog's being able to pierce hypertime, well we do know that His power held a big bang in check thru kyle's ring. A guardian was able to amp SBP enough to walk thru the multiverse without the use of the bleed or the source wall. And It was enough to allow him to kidnap mr. mxy.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
In other words he ain't gotz battle feat and would get kicked like a ball by Odin.

By the way, which abstract shaping feat are you talking about? Will and feat? Hahahahahaha! And fear? OMG! Odin's scared.

The AM couldn't even kill a gaurdian. They can't be killed. And Odin couldn't even put down Thanos and you think he's going to put down a Gaurdian? And the strongest of them? OMG.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The AM couldn't even kill a gaurdian. They can't be killed.

Well we know that's not true.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Well we know that's not true.

Please, show us a Gaurdian being killed. Everytime I see one die, they have to sacrifice themselves in some type of implosion or explosion.

Thor actually had to kill himself to contain the 1/5 universe destroying life-bomb.

Anyway, I recall seeing times where team-bashers were scared of Guardians and things like that, although I haven't seen many direct displays of their power. They're generally respected as equals by the Skyfathers of DC though, and I've seen Ganthet handle top GLs as easily as Odin handles Thor. I'd give Odin the win just because he's a better warrior, regardless.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Please, show us a Gaurdian being killed. Everytime I see one die, they have to sacrifice themselves in some type of implosion or explosion.

You're not counting being forced into a position where they have to explode in order to give their side a chance?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You're not counting being forced into a position where they have to explode in order to give their side a chance?

Gaurdians Loathe Killing. And it's not for them that they would sacrifice themselves. They can't die, and unless your the AM, I don't see anyone causing them any serious harm. It's for other people. SBP was killing thier GL"s and was threating Earth. As for DD, you can see why they wouldnt' want DD absorbing the power battery.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
[B]Surely you think odin is power, but couldn't even knock Thanos out.

After knocking out Surfer and Drax by one blast each with ease. But than you say Odin can't take out 100 GL's while you say Ganthet can take 200. LOL. Thanos? Who's KOed Thanos? Huh? Barely no one. Secondly, even in a low showing, Thanos couldn't do a thing to harm Odin while Odin kicked him around and one shot Surfer and Drax. Nice try.

a weaker guardian empowered SBP with enough power to pierce the multiverse with ease and kidnap mr. mxy.

As I recalled, SBP was already doing crazy feats like that before corps war. SBP just grew into an older body.

Also, I just love your NOT listening to what being said. The Imperiex Destroys one universe as he creates another. TWO feats in ONE.[quote]

Of course he does. What do you think would happen when you detinate a big bang at the center of an existing universe? Do you actually think said explosion would wipe out the existing universe?

That's the feat Kyle performed, containing an explosion of creation that would have exploded the existing universe to pieces. Explode the same said big bang in a void where no universe exist and said big bang will bring about a universe.

It's one feat, not two.

[quote]
The Guardian in question sacrificed himself becuz doomsday was adapting and would have been able to absorb the power of the battery itself. In the fight, The guardian even talks about how doomsday is adapting to his own ( the guardian's) energy. Please do tell, did we read the same story?

Yeah, cause as I recalled the Guardian couldn't remove DD without killing himself and all that did was rip a hole in space and removed DD. So yeah, not that impressed when he kills himself one to BFR DD from one part of space to another.

As for how much power ganthet contributed to Gog's being able to pierce hypertime, well we do know that His power held a big bang in check thru kyle's ring.

And we know Odin's power held an explosion that would destroy the universe thru Thor's hammer. Not a battle feat.

A guardian was able to amp SBP enough to walk thru the multiverse without the use of the bleed or the source wall. And It was enough to allow him to kidnap mr. mxy.

All it allowed was for Supes to reach the fifth dimension. He stilled needed Zatanna to help him remove Mxy's powers before he could affectly hurt Mxy.

And how does this equate to a battle feat for Ganthet?

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
After knocking out Surfer and Drax by one blast each with ease. But than you say Odin can't take out 100 GL's while you say Ganthet can take 200. LOL. Thanos? Who's KOed Thanos? Huh? Barely no one. Secondly, even in a low showing, Thanos couldn't do a thing to harm Odin while Odin kicked him around and one shot Surfer and Drax. Nice try.

As I recalled, SBP was already doing crazy feats like that before corps war. SBP just grew into an older body.

Yeah, cause as I recalled the Guardian couldn't remove DD without killing himself and all that did was rip a hole in space and removed DD. So yeah, not that impressed when he kills himself one to BFR DD from one part of space to another.

And we know Odin's power held an explosion that would destroy the universe thru Thor's hammer. Not a battle feat.

All it allowed was for Supes to reach the fifth dimension. He stilled needed Zatanna to help him remove Mxy's powers before he could affectly hurt Mxy.

And how does this equate to a battle feat for Ganthet?

Your stretching of Odin is laughable. THor DID Not catch universal destroying power. He absorbed ONE bomb. Get your reading together.

SBP was said to have infinite power. As mr. Mxy stated. He also was never able to move about the multiverse. He couldn't even find it. as a matter of fact, he thought it was gone up until that point. nice try tho. It was the guardian's power that allowed him to do that.

Yes, zatanna is the one who stopped mxy's will, but it was the gaurdian's power that allowed SBP the power to simply kidnap mxy. Show me someone else on panel even coming close to that type of power. Mxy even states that the feats SBP are doing are BECUZ of his power up.

And All thigns done by gaurdians are applicable to each other since they are all inherantly the same. The difference is that Ganthet was always the most powerful of them, and now he is also the oldest of them.

Originally posted by Newjak
But it is written by DCU and is not always cannon to the main DCU. That is the point.

It isn't cannon until it is referenced and once again just because there is only one version of the character doesn't mean it becomes automatically cannon.

Once again Spectre in Vertigo isn't always cannon.

Also the Living tribunal isn't always cannon.

Originally posted by Galan007
Would a scan of Mxy himself directly referencing Hypertime in a Superman comic be sufficient?

Now STFU about Hypertime not applying and this bs about WF not being canon.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Now STFU about Hypertime not applying and this bs about WF not being canon.

Originally posted by Newjak
So he screams Hypertime once and all of sudden Mxy gets to destroy entire Omniverses only to be checked down by an Evil Zatanna 313

Um, Not all Alternates are weaker than thier prime counter parts. Some are more powerful. Also, She only bound his will so that he couldn't focus. mxy mentioning hypertime gives credance to the fact that he knows it's there, has been there ect. Hypertime validates EVERY elseworlds story.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um, Not all Alternates are weaker than thier prime counter parts. Some are more powerful. Also, She only bound his will so that he couldn't focus. mxy mentioning hypertime gives credance to the fact that he knows it's there, has been there ect. Hypertime validates EVERY elseworlds story.

Knowing it is there and making something Cannon is completely different. I hate to keep going back to Vertigo but it is the best example. Captain Atom knows it is there doesn't make it Cannon for everything. 😉

Until I hear Mxy or superman or Spectre diirectly quote anything from World's Funniest it a non cannon story. Basically like a What If.