1 Guardian (Ganthet) vs. Odin

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
DS creates entire universes daily. And yet many think odin is above ds. Odin does not impress me.

And just becuz thanos can't die, doesn't mean he can't be knocked out or bitched. big G had no problem making Thanos beg for his life. And Big G was working thru force fields as well. And surfer shouldn't be able to destroy multiple solar systems. WRONG. We dont' know that big G was down to 1% when he did that.

And Thanos has also knocked down Galactus.

The only thing that separated the two encounters is that when Odin had Thanos beaten into pulp Thanos kept getting back up.

And seeing as Big G at full power can destroy the Universe 1% of that is quite a bit. I only give Silver surfer Solar System destroying power because at 1% that would have to be the bare minimum you could give someone like that.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
WRONG. I'm looking at the book. they Held the blast and AM in a CIRCLE.

Originally posted by Newjak
There is only one Spectre but not everything from Vertigo is Cannon to main DC 😉

So basically you are wrong.

Also once again ther eis only one Living tribunal but Thanos: the end isn't exactly cannon. 😛

Even if they are dead galaxies devoid of life they still have sheet size Nvr. To cover that much area is a crazy feat none of the Guardians have reproduced.

First of all, The spectre has already talked about the spectre prime and the other spectres. didn't you know that? everything is canon to the spectre.

Everything is canon to mxy. It doesn't have to be to the main DCu. But we already know that Mxy wiped out everything and then put it back as planned. This was on purpose so that nothing would be changed after the story. So basically, your wrong.

As for Dead Galaxies, I'm not impressed. Devoid of life, no energy, no power. yes it's impressive the size, but Odin had help in whom he was fighting. THEY destroyed dead galaxies.

OH one more thing, covering that much area means the big donut when it's empty dead space.

Originally posted by Newjak
I'm looking at it as well and the the center of the blast is where AM is and the blast would have impacted him the most. The GLs would have been hardly getting the full force of the blast.

Um, The GL"s have a FULL circle around the AM and the ship. If they hadn't, the blast would have destroyed the earth and everyone on it as well as the milkyway. What the hell are you reading/ Not the same thing I am.

Originally posted by Newjak
Except they are small Universes much like Marvel Dimensions and Odin jsut has better feats than DS.

And Thanos has also knocked down Galactus.

The only thing that separated the two encounters is that when Odin had Thanos beaten into pulp Thanos kept getting back up.

And seeing as Big G at full power can destroy the Universe 1% of that is quite a bit. I only give Silver surfer Solar System destroying power because at 1% that would have to be the bare minimum you could give someone like that.

Surfer went mad absorbing the power of a star. Solar system destroying power might be a tad over rated. I'm sure he could do it in a few blast or some tinkering, but not in one fell swoop.

As for Thanos knocking Down galactus, That is a non feat. Thing has too.
As for DS creating Universes and you calling them small, that is more of that damned marvel wanking bullshit. I could easily say Odin destroyed small galaxies or his dimensions are even smaller than DS's. Odin simply has better feats is just marvel wanking pure and simple. if you really want to get technical.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
As for Thanos knocking Down galactus, That is a non feat. Thing has too.

Wow...

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
First of all, The spectre has already talked about the spectre prime and the other spectres. didn't you know that? everything is canon to the spectre.

Everything is canon to mxy. It doesn't have to be to the main DCu. But we already know that Mxy wiped out everything and then put it back as planned. This was on purpose so that nothing would be changed after the story. So basically, your wrong.

As for Dead Galaxies, I'm not impressed. Devoid of life, no energy, no power. yes it's impressive the size, but Odin had help in whom he was fighting. THEY destroyed dead galaxies.

OH one more thing, covering that much area means the big donut when it's empty dead space.

So once again you are WRONG. If it has never been referenced main DCU then it never happened. Just like Vertigo. That goes with or without Hypertime.

Um Nvr you aren't making any sense. Dead Galaxies will still be made of Mtter and to be able to destroy matter in that large area is a huge feat one that none of the Guardians or SMP have duplicated even with help.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Surfer went mad absorbing the power of a star. Solar system destroying power might be a tad over rated. I'm sure he could do it in a few blast or some tinkering, but not in one fell swoop.

As for Thanos knocking Down galactus, That is a non feat. Thing has too.
As for DS creating Universes and you calling them small, that is more of that damned marvel wanking bullshit. I could easily say Odin destroyed small galaxies or his dimensions are even smaller than DS's. Odin simply has better feats is just marvel wanking pure and simple. if you really want to get technical.

Yeah I forgot Batman has knocked down DS 😉

And I'm saying that i nterms of Universes it isn't like DS creates a completely new Universe with its own Superman, GLs. They are basically pocket dimensions not actually that big. It has nothing to do with wanking it is simply the truth.

Originally posted by Newjak
And Thor has absorbed a universal attack before

When? 🙂

Originally posted by Newjak
Yeah all backed from the same power yet there has never been a true point where Vertigo has been considered Cannon for the main DC.

So once again you are WRONG. If it has never been referenced main DCU then it never happened. Just like Vertigo. That goes with or without Hypertime.

Um Nvr you aren't making any sense. Dead Galaxies will still be made of Mtter and to be able to destroy matter in that large area is a huge feat one that none of the Guardians or SMP have duplicated even with help.

A dead galaxy would be made of BRITTLE matter. And the feat is done WITH the help of another being in whom he was fighitng. And you are wrong, things dont' have to be referenced by the main dcu to be canon. the main dcu never referenced any of those elseworld's stories, but we were shown in IC that ALL of those stories where indeed canon. Unlike marvel, DC's universes have always existed seperate of the main one and yet part of it. The JSA's world was just as valid as the JLA's world. One wasn't canon and the other not. World's funnest is canon. Oh, don't forget superman batman 25 when mxy disregards continuity and pulls alternate superman and batmen out of the mulitverse. The one that had been destroyed twice. since you dont' think mxy has that kind of power.

Originally posted by Newjak
I'm saying if he had 1% of Galactus's power than he would have to have the ability to deatroy Multiple Solar Systems at once. It would be the only way he could have 1% power.

Yeah I forgot Batman has knocked down DS 😉

And I'm saying that i nterms of Universes it isn't like DS creates a completely new Universe with its own Superman, GLs. They are basically pocket dimensions not actually that big. It has nothing to do with wanking it is simply the truth.

It's quite obvious you aren't reading enough DC. DS did create alternate universes with thier own superman, batmen, JLA, ect. He also created his own earth, pwned Death's avatar, and the new gods. The truth is you are marvel wanking. And i'm almost certain it was stated that surfer had 1% of Big G's power.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
A dead galaxy would be made of BRITTLE matter. And the feat is done WITH the help of another being in whom he was fighitng. And you are wrong, things dont' have to be referenced by the main dcu to be canon. the main dcu never referenced any of those elseworld's stories, but we were shown in IC that ALL of those stories where indeed canon. Unlike marvel, DC's universes have always existed seperate of the main one and yet part of it. The JSA's world was just as valid as the JLA's world. One wasn't canon and the other not. World's funnest is canon. Oh, don't forget superman batman 25 when mxy disregards continuity and pulls alternate superman and batmen out of the mulitverse. The one that had been destroyed twice. since you dont' think mxy has that kind of power.

Listen elseworld's didn't become cannon until it got referenced in the main DCU or as part of the main DCU. Just like Vertigo.

Face World's Funniest is the only time Mxy ever demonstrated even the remote inkling that he could mess up all of DC. a non cannon title.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It's quite obvious you aren't reading enough DC. DS did create alternate universes with thier own superman, batmen, JLA, ect. He also created his own earth, pwned Death's avatar, and the new gods. The truth is you are marvel wanking. And i'm almost certain it was stated that surfer had 1% of Big G's power.

Originally posted by Newjak
Ok let me rephrase this so you can understand it. He did not create full universes. Never has he shown that. 😉 They are basically pocket dimensions. Odin has recreated all of Asgard people included.

SO becuz you say he didn't create full universes that makes it so? Mister Miracle references No name new Gods created thier own twisted universes. So what makes odin's asgard better than anything DS has done? Or dont' you remember DS creating his own earth, all of it's people, pwning all of the new gods, all the while, creating other realities with thier own superman, jla's ect. now under stand that. you are odin wanking.

Originally posted by Newjak
Yet to destroy matter light years apart means that you have to get across that area and that requires a but load of power to do anyway you slice it. 😉

Listen elseworld's didn't become cannon until it got referenced in the main DCU or as part of the main DCU. Just like Vertigo.

Face World's Funniest is the only time Mxy ever demonstrated even the remote inkling that he could mess up all of DC. a non cannon title.

Else worlds became cannon in the Kingdom. didn't you know that? ALL elseworld's titles.

OH and one more thing, the One main universe of the DCU has all of the power of the Multiverse. It's how A luthor was able to recreate all of those earths. Now the Joker with Mxy's power ****ed ALL of DC up. Nuff said.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
SO becuz you say he didn't create full universes that makes it so? Mister Miracle references No name new Gods created thier own twisted universes. So what makes odin's asgard better than anything DS has done? Or dont' you remember DS creating his own earth, all of it's people, pwning all of the new gods, all the while, creating other realities with thier own superman, jla's ect. now under stand that. you are odin wanking.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
First of all, It doesn't say that Odin nor his enemy, destroyed dead galaxies in one shot. And we know both of them were fast. They could have just been fighting across the galaxies. It doesn't take alot of power to break up somethign already brittle. A few strikes here and there and shit falls apart.

Else worlds became cannon in the Kingdom. didn't you know that? ALL elseworld's titles.

And I didn't say elseworlds wasn't Cannon I'm saying it didn't become cannon until it got referenced with something in the main DCU.

Just like Vertigo isn't Cannon until it gets mentioned.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
ALL of those stories where indeed canon

Originally posted by Newjak
Did I say that makes Odin better no I'm just calling what it is. DS doesn't create "full" universes on a whim. Small pocket dimensions and universes are different. What does that mean is that nothing DS has done puts him over Odin or vice versa. I'm actually one of the few who agree with you that DS is Skyfather at least when he is going on all gears.

One thing puts DS over Odin. The proven ability to absorb the power of those who are mightier than he.

Originally posted by Newjak
Ummm I think the fact that it was their residual energies destroying them I'm inclined to say that they may have been battling across that Galaxies destroying them with only the side effects is quite a feat. And dead Galaxies means devoid of life not that it didn't have stars or planets. 😉

No. A dead galaxy is devoid of star power. Which then would include no life.